Saved by faith alone?
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In what world is a no living dead faith no faith?
Your adding the confusion
Paul said we are saved by grace through faith not works
but those saved will donworks
James said if we claim we have faith but have no works our faith is dead. A living faith would work because we are created anew
It all Fits together like a puzzle. Just need to get contect
The people in James are no
More saved than the Jew trying to add works of the law
Paul said we are saved by grace through faith not works
but those saved will donworks
James said if we claim we have faith but have no works our faith is dead. A living faith would work because we are created anew
It all Fits together like a puzzle. Just need to get contect
The people in James are no
More saved than the Jew trying to add works of the law
If they claim to have faith and do not (do not have eternal life) why does James not teach them why they really do not have spiritual salvation.
What is more consistent and logical is to see that James regards them as having received eternal life and but have not put that gift to use, and he is telling them that there are benefits for the soul to put one's faith to use.
The claim to spiritual saving faith is REAL, that is not the problem James is addressing at all!!
The problem is claiming faith but not putting faith to use (inoperative, separated aka dead faith) in the living outward what they possess inwardly.
This is the correct view and holds true how the word "dead" is used in scripture within that culture.
Making dead mean not real or only mental assent is not how the ancient people thought.
What is more consistent and logical is to see that James regards them as having received eternal life and but have not put that gift to use, and he is telling them that there are benefits for the soul to put one's faith to use.
The claim to spiritual saving faith is REAL, that is not the problem James is addressing at all!!
The problem is claiming faith but not putting faith to use (inoperative, separated aka dead faith) in the living outward what they possess inwardly.
This is the correct view and holds true how the word "dead" is used in scripture within that culture.
Making dead mean not real or only mental assent is not how the ancient people thought.
This is a great question because both ways to answer is correct.
If they have no works they are displaying where their faith is at but if they do have works it's really showing where their faith is at.
And from whether you follow Yeshua or Satan your works ultimately prove where your true faith is at.
If they have no works they are displaying where their faith is at but if they do have works it's really showing where their faith is at.
And from whether you follow Yeshua or Satan your works ultimately prove where your true faith is at.
