Understanding God’s election
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John 3 verses 19-20 and from Psalm 10 verse 4 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of Light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come into the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. The wicked reviles the Lord
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Romans 8 verse 7a, Galatians 5 verse 17, John 1 verse 5, John 14 verse 17 ~ The mind of the flesh is hostile to God: It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. The flesh craves what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. Darkness does not comprehend the Light. The world cannot receive the Spirit of Truth, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him.
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Okay, suppose both sides deny each other's evidence.
Isn't the solution for both sides to cite Scripture supporting each side's argument
and then work together to harmonize them?
That is the approach we are using in the systematic and dialectical study of the doctrine of election
on the Hermeneutics thread. All who are willing to apply this method are welcome to participate.
Isn't the solution for both sides to cite Scripture supporting each side's argument
and then work together to harmonize them?
That is the approach we are using in the systematic and dialectical study of the doctrine of election
on the Hermeneutics thread. All who are willing to apply this method are welcome to participate.
Actually, it's clearly in the grammar, so it's quite bizarre to have an aged novice constantly going against what the Word actually says and follow it up with claims he's proven something. Such is eisegetics.
You asked for purpose and @GWH gave you one well-known verse with an actual statement of purpose in it tied to an explanatory verse with 2 more purpose clauses clarifying the main purpose.
I don't know if the response could have been any more succinct. But for the divisive eisegete, there's always another erroneous argument to be manufactured.
You asked for purpose and @GWH gave you one well-known verse with an actual statement of purpose in it tied to an explanatory verse with 2 more purpose clauses clarifying the main purpose.
I don't know if the response could have been any more succinct. But for the divisive eisegete, there's always another erroneous argument to be manufactured.
We might compare the adversarial approach to hermeneutics on this thread to our criminal justice system,
in which the lawyers are supposed to either prosecute or defend, when everyone's role ought to be discovering the facts, determining guilt and assigning just consequence/ restitution, with anyone who withheld pertinent information for
establishing the truth and a fair penalty being culpable of a crime.
in which the lawyers are supposed to either prosecute or defend, when everyone's role ought to be discovering the facts, determining guilt and assigning just consequence/ restitution, with anyone who withheld pertinent information for
establishing the truth and a fair penalty being culpable of a crime.
I get the elect of God idea and how God knew everyone before hand who is gonna be saved because he's God. So I have a random question.
There are differnt classifications of angles. Dominions, power, thrones, ect ect. Why can't thier be differnt classifications of Christians. Maybe the elect are chosen for a purpose ie prophecy or apostleship. Like Paul. There are also the 144k in revaluations. The tribulation saints. Maybe the elect is a certain classification of Christian. Maybe there are just plain old repentive Christians. And no one thing in this universe can pluck any of them out of his hand once they put thier faith in Jesus. Not just the one category called the elect. Just an idea anyways.
There are differnt classifications of angles. Dominions, power, thrones, ect ect. Why can't thier be differnt classifications of Christians. Maybe the elect are chosen for a purpose ie prophecy or apostleship. Like Paul. There are also the 144k in revaluations. The tribulation saints. Maybe the elect is a certain classification of Christian. Maybe there are just plain old repentive Christians. And no one thing in this universe can pluck any of them out of his hand once they put thier faith in Jesus. Not just the one category called the elect. Just an idea anyways.
