Turning from sin

[wattie]

I would be interested to know your thoughts on this.

There are many gospel tracts that have in their salvation talk..

'Turn from sin' and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.

This is what they think 'repent' means.

The thing about this is God Himself repented of what He was going to do in the OT.

It was a 'change of mind, heart'.

I believe repent at salvation means to change your mind, heart about who Jesus is..to believe in Him.

I believe..we can 'turn from sin' as a behaviour of change after conversion. It's not the requirement for salvation.

Knowing you are a sinner, deserving hell, and believing on the Lord Jesus Christ. Believing He is God, that He lived sinless, that He died and rose again. That by believing, you have eternal life.

That's salvation. Not about your behaviour of doing good. That good behaviour of turning from sin..comes because you are saved..in response to salvation.. but it's not the way of salvation.

Repent= change of mind, heart.

Your thoughts?

 

[GWH]

I would be interested to know your thoughts on this.

There are many gospel tracts that have in their salvation talk..

'Turn from sin' and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.

This is what they think 'repent' means.

The thing about this is God Himself repented of what He was going to do in the OT.

It was a 'change of mind, heart'.

I believe repent at salvation means to change your mind, heart about who Jesus is..to believe in Him.

I believe..we can 'turn from sin' as a behaviour of change after conversion. It's not the requirement for salvation.

Knowing you are a sinner, deserving hell, and believing on the Lord Jesus Christ. Believing He is God, that He lived sinless, that He died and rose again. That by believing, you have eternal life.

That's salvation. Not about your behaviour of doing good. That good behaviour of turning from sin..comes because you are saved..in response to salvation.. but it's not the way of salvation.

Repent= change of mind, heart.

Your thoughts?

I agree, and this change from ignoring GW to accepting JC as Lord is made possible because of God's seeking grace:

Jesus Himself expressed GRFS succinctly using three, four and five letter words: “Ask… seek… knock…” (Matt. 7:7). This indicates that God graces every sinful soul with the ability or opportunity to understand how to be saved (1Tim. 2:3-4, Ezek. 33:11), which might be called “seeking grace” (Tit. 2:11). As Hebrews 11:6 states: “he [God] rewards those who earnestly seek him” (cf. Isa. 45:19).

Seeking God is the beginning of saving faith, and not seeking God or rejecting His salvation in Christ is the essence of evil atheism or faith in I-dolatry (Rom. 3:11, 1:18-23). Sinful humanity retains the image of God or moral free will, so every normal adult soul is able by faith to choose to seek salvation–or not (cf. Deut. 30:19).

 

[reneweddaybyday]

I believe repent at salvation means to change your mind, heart about who Jesus is..to believe in Him.

Romans 10:9-10 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

The word "confess" in vs 9 and the word "confession" in vs 10 are translated from the Greek word homologeó which means to say the same thing.

When a person hears the Word of God, he or she can then "confess" (say the same thing as what God's Word says) and believe in his or her heart that the Lord Jesus Christ was raised from the dead.

That's salvation. Not about your behaviour of doing good. That good behaviour of turning from sin..comes because you are saved..in response to salvation.. but it's not the way of salvation.

yes ... God gives us a new heart, a new way of life. We repent of our old ways because we have that new heart which is led by the Spirit ... the born again one is no longer at enmity against God.
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[Blain]

If you think about it the change of mind and heart upon repentance is miraculous because to do such a thing is going against our instincts which like comparing an animal going against their instincts it is not something animals do often if at all.

When one is saved we truly are changed all animals live by instinct humans to but while humans can change and even practice not sinning it doesn't truly happen without true repentance and then this change that happens is supernatural
To have true repentance we have to not just be repentant of our sins but we have to think seriosuly here we have to see God as not just our friend but our Lord as well

Our Lord as in the utmost respect and submission the authoirty of our lives such a title demands respect but once we do his love fills us up and this love is the gas-the fuel that runs our lives and makes us not want to sin without this love we have no gas and so even if we try to not sin it simply is impossible without this love

True repentance is not simply recognizing we are sinners and changing from sin it is true powerful often emotional supernatural experience and it isn't just calling Jesus our savior and Lord but truly making him Lord of all the authority and ruler of our every being and lives truly subitting to him and his will the all powerful all ruling God and king
Repent and be saved, respect and be aware of his Lordship love and live love and sin no more. such powerful things.

 

[kqr_anointed]

I would be interested to know your thoughts on this.

There are many gospel tracts that have in their salvation talk..

'Turn from sin' and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.

This is what they think 'repent' means.

The thing about this is God Himself repented of what He was going to do in the OT.

It was a 'change of mind, heart'.

I believe repent at salvation means to change your mind, heart about who Jesus is..to believe in Him.

I believe..we can 'turn from sin' as a behaviour of change after conversion. It's not the requirement for salvation.

Knowing you are a sinner, deserving hell, and believing on the Lord Jesus Christ. Believing He is God, that He lived sinless, that He died and rose again. That by believing, you have eternal life.

That's salvation. Not about your behaviour of doing good. That good behaviour of turning from sin..comes because you are saved..in response to salvation.. but it's not the way of salvation.

Repent= change of mind, heart.

Your thoughts?

I need to Google it

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

I would be interested to know your thoughts on this.

There are many gospel tracts that have in their salvation talk..

'Turn from sin' and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.

This is what they think 'repent' means.

The thing about this is God Himself repented of what He was going to do in the OT.

It was a 'change of mind, heart'.

I believe repent at salvation means to change your mind, heart about who Jesus is..to believe in Him.

I believe..we can 'turn from sin' as a behaviour of change after conversion. It's not the requirement for salvation.

Knowing you are a sinner, deserving hell, and believing on the Lord Jesus Christ. Believing He is God, that He lived sinless, that He died and rose again. That by believing, you have eternal life.

That's salvation. Not about your behaviour of doing good. That good behaviour of turning from sin..comes because you are saved..in response to salvation.. but it's not the way of salvation.

Repent= change of mind, heart.

Your thoughts?

Does Repent/ Repentance mean turn from sin?
Before someone jumps to the conclusion that they assume is correct, they should at least look at the context of the terms usage.

Who is repenting?
Is this involve national judgement OR individuals faced with the decision of eternity?

To use the definition that I've read on over an hundred different tracks and heard from various preachers, you might be led to conclude that God Himself turned from sin many times.
Why?
Because He repented so much throughout the history presented.
Of course that would be absolutely reprehensible, false and blasphemous to suggest that God sinned. He is righteous.
The obvious answer is that people make mistakes and pass along false information.

Apparently those who wrote those tracks and spread the so called good news of "your going to hell unless you turn from sin ", have never taken the effort to read how God was the first to repent and He did so many times.

6And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
Genesis 6

 

[wattie]

Does Repent/ Repentance mean turn from sin?
Before someone jumps to the conclusion that they assume is correct, they should at least look at the context of the terms usage.

Who is repenting?
Is this involve national judgement OR individuals faced with the decision of eternity?

To use the definition that I've read on over an hundred different tracks and heard from various preachers, you might be led to conclude that God Himself turned from sin many times.
Why?
Because He repented so much throughout the history presented.
Of course that would be absolutely reprehensible, false and blasphemous to suggest that God sinned. He is righteous.
The obvious answer is that people make mistakes and pass along false information.

Apparently those who wrote those tracks and spread the so called good news of "your going to hell unless you turn from sin ", have never taken the effort to read how God was the first to repent and He did so many times.

6And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
Genesis 6

Yeah 'committing your life to Christ ' is another phrase that can be problematic in the same sense. Seen alot in gospel tracts.

Because if after salvation.. someone gets caught in old ways.. someone will say 'never saved in the first place ' because they weren't fully committed.

 

[Magenta]

Repentance involves a complete change of heart and mind toward God.

from Revelation 3 verse 17-18 ~ You say, ‘I need nothing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind, and naked. I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined by fire so that you may become rich, white garments so that you may be clothed and your shameful nakedness not exposed, and salve to anoint your eyes so that you may see.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Yeah 'committing your life to Christ ' is another phrase that can be problematic in the same sense. Seen alot in gospel tracts.

Because if after salvation.. someone gets caught in old ways.. someone will say 'never saved in the first place ' because they weren't fully committed.

Every church, true believers and unbelievers, teach that Jesus is the Savior Who died for sins and arose.
The key lies in the Biblical response.
Two responses are most common:
1. Calling upon the Lord
2. Believe (faith, trust)

What unbiblical religion and traditions do is interject a false/ unbiblical response like the one you mentioned for example, "committing your life to Christ."

What we don't know is what that actually means. To an unbeliever, that would sound like a work of that individual rather than faith/believing.

Another one I just read yesterday on a pastor's website was that " he gave his life to Christ."
What's wrong with that testimony?

So an unholy man offered the holy Savior an Unholy sacrifice.
What was wrong with Christ's sacrifice? Wasn't it enough? So did that pastor decide that he had to add his own filthy rag, his own basket of fruit to the Lord Mr. Cain?

The funny thing about this is that the pastor's name is actually Kane. It's just spelled with a "k" instead.
Sad thing is that he is misleading many with his false gospel.

 

[wattie]

If you think about it the change of mind and heart upon repentance is miraculous because to do such a thing is going against our instincts which like comparing an animal going against their instincts it is not something animals do often if at all.

When one is saved we truly are changed all animals live by instinct humans to but while humans can change and even practice not sinning it doesn't truly happen without true repentance and then this change that happens is supernatural
To have true repentance we have to not just be repentant of our sins but we have to think seriosuly here we have to see God as not just our friend but our Lord as well

Our Lord as in the utmost respect and submission the authoirty of our lives such a title demands respect but once we do his love fills us up and this love is the gas-the fuel that runs our lives and makes us not want to sin without this love we have no gas and so even if we try to not sin it simply is impossible without this love

True repentance is not simply recognizing we are sinners and changing from sin it is true powerful often emotional supernatural experience and it isn't just calling Jesus our savior and Lord but truly making him Lord of all the authority and ruler of our every being and lives truly subitting to him and his will the all powerful all ruling God and king
Repent and be saved, respect and be aware of his Lordship love and live love and sin no more. such powerful things.

Well, see here is the thing, to make God "the authority and ruler of our every being and lives truly subitting to him and his will the all powerful all ruling God and king"...

How is that related to:

KJB:
(Act 16:30) And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
(Act 16:31) And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

and

(Rom 10:9) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
(Rom 10:10) For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

I know exactly the phrases you are saying.. I've heard and seen them over and over.. but does it really get down to the simple statement:

Know you are a sinner, and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation.