Yes I know some of you believe people are saved already . and others just can’t be saved because they aren’t already saved ect but you guys avoid all the scripture that tells a different story for instance the Bible says God will judge every person according to that they have done and said whether good or bad. Like this from pauls doctrine
“But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed. God “will repay each person according to what they have done.” To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile; but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. For God does not show favoritism.”
Romans 2:5-11 NIV
i don’t want to just argue with you sis but is that how God is going to judge people ?
If it is then it makes perfect sense why Paul was teaching this to believers
“Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling,”
Philippians 2:12
Makes even more sense here
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad. Since, then, we know what it is to fear the Lord, we try to persuade others. What we are is plain to God, and I hope it is also plain to your conscience.”
2 Corinthians 5:10-11
that’s why Paul wrote that they needed to continue in obedience and work out thier own salvation with fear and trembling
Not because they’re already saved ….but because they have to face the judgement based on thier deeds now of course one could say “ that’s not about salvation “ but it is
God “will repay each person according to what they have done.” To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.
and
“But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile; “
Unless we say eternal life has nothing to do with salvation then what Paul’s writing there has a lot to do with salvation or wrath
the Bible simply doesn’t teach people you are already saved it promises that if tbey believe the gospel and follow the lord in faith at the end tbey shall be saved
it teaches tbat if we persevere in faith at the end of it we’ll be saved not before the beginning of it . If folks were already saved they wouldn’t need to repent and believe the gospel or be baptized to be saved but Jesus said this of all creatures
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
Mark 16:15-16 KJV
That’s who can be saved and how they shall be saved that day he comes with salvation . It’s crazy even Paul dodnt claim he knew his judgement but left it for Christ the judge when he comes but people who read Paul then believe they already know thier judgement ….
I’m not ever going to assume but let the lord judge me
“For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord. Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.”
1 Corinthians 4:4-5 KJV
i don’t tell people they’re saved already because I’m not the one who gets to decide I tell them things from the Bible like this because it’s true
“we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad. Since, then, we know what it is to fear the Lord, we try to persuade others.”
I’m still planning on appearing at the lords judgement throne I’ll wait for him sis I understand the issues with boasting that I can’t be judged or that I’m special and different than those who aren’t chosen ect I fit in the group that has to appear and answer and give account for my life still so I’m gonna wait for Jesus judgement and do what I can to follow after his word for now trusting that he’ll save me as he said he would for those who pick up thier cross and follow him
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