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So, let's go and rip all the seeds out of the ground, and see how many trees we have in a generation or two.
In the same way -- kill all the babies that are in their mothers' wombs, and see how many people are in the generations to come.
OBVIOUSLY, there would be a ton less people, because, in this case, they would all have died -- when you KILLED THEM.
In the same way -- kill all the babies that are in their mothers' wombs, and see how many people are in the generations to come.
OBVIOUSLY, there would be a ton less people, because, in this case, they would all have died -- when you KILLED THEM.
M
The tiny cells that a human being grows from are ALIVE...so I always wonder why people don't think of the removal/disposal of those LIVING cells as killing anything. To make it worse, those LIVING cells are HUMAN cells, with the potential to grow into a HUMAN BEING. It may not be the sort of murder that we're used to hearing about/seeing on TV or whatever, but it's still killing something that is alive.
Maybe if people can't accept that abortion is murder, we should put it under the category of theft- an entire future is stolen from every child that is aborted.
Maybe if people can't accept that abortion is murder, we should put it under the category of theft- an entire future is stolen from every child that is aborted.
I absolutely wish someone would show the different abortions on tv... The news.. The medical channels... Talk shows... Wherever! I wish they would blur out the moms' faces and show the general public.. The before, during and ending procedures AND the "non-human being" remains that come from these abortions. I think many many MANY people would think twice about being pro-choice. And now that I think of it.. We show nudity, gory horror scenes, rape, sex in general, abuse of alcohol and drugs, domestic abuse, plastic surgery type scenarios on tv 24/7 ...why does no one show us what happens in an abortion? ..because it's horrible, disgusting, heart-wrenching? So are many of those other things... We need a giant smack in the face when it comes to this. Honestly!
J
So is abortion.
The American Abortion Industry, has outpaced Stalin by far.
I don't let humans decide that other humans aren't human. I let God decide what constitutes being human. Humans have a bad history of labeling other groups as sub-human, or non-human. Social Darwinism coupled with racist evolutionary theory in the 19th and 20th centuries, claimed that blacks were a group non-human apes. I have a Rand McNally Atlas back home from 1902 that has a section on "the races of the world" that attests to this.
Ahmadinejad isn't the first to tout that line.
The American Abortion Industry, has outpaced Stalin by far.
I don't let humans decide that other humans aren't human. I let God decide what constitutes being human. Humans have a bad history of labeling other groups as sub-human, or non-human. Social Darwinism coupled with racist evolutionary theory in the 19th and 20th centuries, claimed that blacks were a group non-human apes. I have a Rand McNally Atlas back home from 1902 that has a section on "the races of the world" that attests to this.
Ahmadinejad isn't the first to tout that line.
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Lol leelee - I know, the quoting thing isn't easy!
Someone said about a sperm and an egg being alive - I'm not sure what the definition of life is, but I disagree. A sperm, and an egg, individually don't have any potential to be a human being. They must be joined. There must be a difference between 'life' and 'human life' for people, because people kill for meat and vegetables etc. I posted another thread about 'how do we know that we're right', and the same applies here - people have unshakable views on things, but these views are different. Personally I believe some things, but others believe others. We can't know for absolute certain that our personal beliefs are the same as God's.
I have always been against abortions in most cases, and have believed that it is a human being from conception. I haven't always been a Christian, so my views aren't based on my religious views.
Sometimes abortions are necessary. For example, in an ectopic pregnancy. If the pregnancy isn't aborted when it is discovered, the woman puts herself at the risk of major illness or death. But there will never be a baby born. If the pregnancy is aborted, then the woman should recover. If it isn't, there still won't be a baby, but the woman may well die.
Someone said about a sperm and an egg being alive - I'm not sure what the definition of life is, but I disagree. A sperm, and an egg, individually don't have any potential to be a human being. They must be joined. There must be a difference between 'life' and 'human life' for people, because people kill for meat and vegetables etc. I posted another thread about 'how do we know that we're right', and the same applies here - people have unshakable views on things, but these views are different. Personally I believe some things, but others believe others. We can't know for absolute certain that our personal beliefs are the same as God's.
I have always been against abortions in most cases, and have believed that it is a human being from conception. I haven't always been a Christian, so my views aren't based on my religious views.
Sometimes abortions are necessary. For example, in an ectopic pregnancy. If the pregnancy isn't aborted when it is discovered, the woman puts herself at the risk of major illness or death. But there will never be a baby born. If the pregnancy is aborted, then the woman should recover. If it isn't, there still won't be a baby, but the woman may well die.
P
Just went to read my bible (going start to finish).
Funnily, I was reading Psalm 51. Verse 5-6 says 'for I was born a sinner - yes, from the moment my mother conceived me. But you desire honesty from the womb, teaching me wisdom even there.'
Just thought I would share. I felt that bit spoke to me since I was reading this thread earlier.
Rosi
Funnily, I was reading Psalm 51. Verse 5-6 says 'for I was born a sinner - yes, from the moment my mother conceived me. But you desire honesty from the womb, teaching me wisdom even there.'
Just thought I would share. I felt that bit spoke to me since I was reading this thread earlier.
Rosi
