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This is what I mean about listening to you tube stories about flat earth and shape shifting lizzards. I just went strait to the W.H.O. website and there is no statement or story about 13% of the entire world's population disappearing. Not in China not anywhere. The W.H.O never said that never claimed that not once not ever.

Second the you tube video of elon musk saying 800 million Chinese people disappeared is cut and pasted from a video where he was taking about population reduction in the workforce. He said in a hypothetical reduction of 8-9 hundred million people it would take a loss of 40% of a generation over 3 generations. He not once. Not one single time said 800 million people disappeared. Not even once. How many of these cut and pasted 100% fake lying videos are you gonna stand behind.
This woman uses the official data from both China and India to prove mathematically there is a big problem.


Using this method she estimates the real population of China is 500-700 million less than their official number.

Her approach results in an answer within 3% of India's population, so if it is flawed, why isn't it flawed for both countries?

This is a valid question, why don't the official numbers make sense? The math is straight forward, the streets are empty and China is now hiding data.

No one can know for sure one way or the other because China is not transparent, but anecdotal evidence of empty streets in a city that is supposed to have a population of 12 million, that is valid observation that is relevant.

I lived in Taiwan for more than 8 years and the Chinese were very clear that the end justifies the means. They justified lying, deceit, and what we would call fraud because the company made money. I left Taiwan with the lesson burned into me, never take anything the Chinese government says as true without independently verifying it.
 
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This woman uses the official data from both China and India to prove mathematically there is a big problem.


Using this method she estimates the real population of China is 500-700 million less than their official number.

Her approach results in an answer within 3% of India's population, so if it is flawed, why isn't it flawed for both countries?

This is a valid question, why don't the official numbers make sense? The math is straight forward, the streets are empty and China is now hiding data.

No one can know for sure one way or the other because China is not transparent, but anecdotal evidence of empty streets in a city that is supposed to have a population of 12 million, that is valid observation that is relevant.

I lived in Taiwan for more than 8 years and the Chinese were very clear that the end justifies the means. They justified lying, deceit, and what we would call fraud because the company made money. I left Taiwan with the lesson burned into me, never take anything the Chinese government says as true without independently verifying it.

This woman uses official data from India and China.... the headline of the video says how i used AI to calculate.... official data from china? You just said china can't be trusted with any data? Im just gonna say this 13% of the world's population did not dissappear. It simply did not.
 

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This woman uses official data from India and China.... the headline of the video says how i used AI to calculate.... official data from china? You just said china can't be trusted with any data? Im just gonna say this 13% of the world's population did not dissappear. It simply did not.
Yes, I know that is what you said, and I see no reason to use your opinion to ignore warnings from so many people with actual physical evidence.
 
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He's the funny thing 30 minutes of research that didnt include random you tube videos found this. During the late 1990s and early 2000s china was experiencing such a population increase they started building cities in preparation for needing them. These are not abandoned cities. They are cities no one ever moved to, to begin with. Some of the cities were built to house westerners that never came. These cities have been built then abandoned since the mid 2000s. There have been people showing them on the news for 20 years. Nothing in those videos is truthfully depicted.
 

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He's the funny thing 30 minutes of research that didnt include random you tube videos found this. During the late 1990s and early 2000s china was experiencing such a population increase they started building cities in preparation for needing them. These are not abandoned cities. They are cities no one ever moved to, to begin with. Some of the cities were built to house westerners that never came. These cities have been built then abandoned since the mid 2000s. There have been people showing them on the news for 20 years. Nothing in those videos is truthfully depicted.
And how do you know that?

I heard the same thing during the pandemic. It was not my job to prove the vaccine was safe and effective, it was the government regulators job before mandating it.

In the same way neither you nor I are in a position to verify these claims, but China could easily debunk them if they are false by simply being transparent. Instead they are hiding under the fig leaf of national security and removing such sensitive information as how much soy sauce is sold each year.

The canary in the coal mine has sent out its warning, what you do with it is up to you.
 

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He's the funny thing 30 minutes of research that didnt include random you tube videos found this. During the late 1990s and early 2000s china was experiencing such a population increase they started building cities in preparation for needing them. These are not abandoned cities. They are cities no one ever moved to, to begin with. Some of the cities were built to house westerners that never came. These cities have been built then abandoned since the mid 2000s. There have been people showing them on the news for 20 years. Nothing in those videos is truthfully depicted.
China's demographics are going to be like that. After Mao took over in '49 he pushed for mass births. Then the Great Leap forward killed off between 15-51 million. Anyway they were encouraged after this going into the 60's to just pump out children. So you are going to see a uptick in the 90's and 2000 as these come to age start careers, get married, and start families. So there is going to be a greater need for housing.

Then the late 70's early 80's they started their one child policy so that demographic is what we are filtering through now and will be so for some time since it ran till 2015. After that they went to a two child policy. However, the one child policy is truly destructive since they would get rid of girls and keep boys for the one child.

I would not quote me directly on this as going from memory, but believe I read a statistic as of right now they stand at a shortage of 40 million women to marry eligible bachelor's. They have even taken to pressure the women they do have to get married. If a woman is unmarried and over 25 they refer to them as Sheng nu or leftover women.

The sexual revolution is the biggest change to humanity of any revolution's in the history of mankind. China is finding out what the west now knows you push for women to be like men and be career driven. The drive for women to have children or have more children drops. Here is what we have reported in our own news on China and it's population.


China Population Less Than Reported

According to Newsweek, China has been over-reporting its population, with some estimates suggesting there are over 100 million fewer people than officially claimed. Yi Fuxian, an obstetrician at the University of Wisconsin-Madison who conducts demography research, stated that China's censuses are "seriously overestimated" and that annual data should be corrected with census data.

China's population, which Beijing put at 1.41 billion as of 2023, is now projected to drop to 1.36 billion by 2025, according to Ada Li, a senior industry analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence, based on United Nations data. This decline is part of a broader trend of dropping fertility rates and an increasing number of senior citizens, which many analysts fear will negatively impact the country's economy.

Furthermore, Yi Fuxian predicts that China's population could drop to 330 million by the end of the century if the total fertility rate remains at 0.8.

https://www.newsweek.com/china-news-plunges-deeper-population-crisis-2016672

https://www.newsweek.com/china-news-50-million-population-decrease-1988679

https://www.newsweek.com/end-china-great-power-population-collapse-opinion-2005236
 
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And how do you know that?

I heard the same thing during the pandemic. It was not my job to prove the vaccine was safe and effective, it was the government regulators job before mandating it.

In the same way neither you nor I are in a position to verify these claims, but China could easily debunk them if they are false by simply being transparent. Instead they are hiding under the fig leaf of national security and removing such sensitive information as how much soy sauce is sold each year.

The canary in the coal mine has sent out its warning, what you do with it is up to you.

There are you tube videos of it all the way back in 2009. Watch them if you want. 13% of the world population didnt disappear.
 

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There are you tube videos of it all the way back in 2009. Watch them if you want. 13% of the world population didnt disappear.
So you are saying to ignore people online who are making videos for youtube because other people made videos for youtube?
 

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Beijing, Shanghai in Deep Recession: Rich Areas Turn to Ghost Towns, Millions Vanish

Wow, completely different explanation. Yes, some people may have died, but it seems the rich have fled the country. When the factories close down they move to Vietnam or some other country you can imagine the middle class managers also fled and the owners fled because they stiffed their workers. They don't want to remain in the country for the angry mob to find and kill.

This could explain why the malls are empty. Perhaps 90% of Chinese are too poor to shop there, but if the rich flee, if the managers flee and if the factories close down it explains why no one is shopping the upscale mall and why many of the shops are shut down as well.
 

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Export Collapse HITS HARD, Container Ships SITTING IDLE, No Buyers in Sight
 

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China's cities and rural areas are empty & massive uninhabited villages appear.


Have you ever seen a city in the US of 13 million without anyone on the streets and no congestion? Of course not, we don't have any cities with 13 million. LA is less than 4 million, NYC is less than 10 million.
 
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So you are saying to ignore people online who are making videos for youtube because other people made videos for youtube?
Nope just saying ignore random made up cut pasted conspiracy video's. You say china suppressed the truth in everything except this guy walking around china video taping it and posting it on you tube... he'd be one of the 900 million disappeared people.
 

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Nope just saying ignore random made up cut pasted conspiracy video's. You say china suppressed the truth in everything except this guy walking around china video taping it and posting it on you tube... he'd be one of the 900 million disappeared people.
Oh, so don't believe anyone claiming there is a problem in China with peoplle disappearing because china will make anyone who claims this disappear.
 

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psalm 1:1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
 
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China's cities and rural areas are empty & massive uninhabited villages appear.


Have you ever seen a city in the US of 13 million without anyone on the streets and no congestion? Of course not, we don't have any cities with 13 million. LA is less than 4 million, NYC is less than 10 million.
Ok if you watch the first minute of that video with the guy supposedly walking thought the mall. Everytime the video blinks the back ground restarts. Watch for yourself. You literly see the same background over and over. If you can't see that with your own 2 eyes. Then you have a problem. You can literally see it dubbed over with your own eyeballs. Come on now.
 

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Ok if you watch the first minute of that video with the guy supposedly walking thought the mall. Everytime the video blinks the back ground restarts. Watch for yourself. You literly see the same background over and over. If you can't see that with your own 2 eyes. Then you have a problem. You can literally see it dubbed over with your own eyeballs. Come on now.
I have been to many big cities, NYC, London, Chicago, LA, Houston, etc. But none of those cities has 12 million people.

I have also been to Taipei, and Hong Kong and it is wall to wall people. So for me to see pictures of streets that are empty in the middle of the day in a Chinese city of 12 million , that to me instantly says something is wrong.

I get it if people have not been to Asia or China, but for those who have been these pictures are unimaginable.
 

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This is where all the Chinese are


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