Why did God create Humans ?
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Why?
The Lord Jesus Christ Propitiated the Father. Therefore, ANYONE can believe and be saved.
The Lord Jesus will NEVER forsake a saved individual. Eternal security is ROCK solid in the Lord Jesus Christ.
You cannot keep moving the goal posts. YOU need to understand where they are.
The Angelic/Kingdom conflict is the least of your concerns if you can't even understand the elementary principles of Christ.
The Lord Jesus Christ Propitiated the Father. Therefore, ANYONE can believe and be saved.
The Lord Jesus will NEVER forsake a saved individual. Eternal security is ROCK solid in the Lord Jesus Christ.
You cannot keep moving the goal posts. YOU need to understand where they are.
The Angelic/Kingdom conflict is the least of your concerns if you can't even understand the elementary principles of Christ.
For what ever reason it was asked...
Just? Maybe?
God sovereignly wants some here, who have no idea what the prehistoric angelic conflict is, to begin to learn what it teaches.
For it surely answers a wide gamut of questions for those seeking to truly understand the situation that the Lord had us born-again entered into.
Just? Maybe?
God sovereignly wants some here, who have no idea what the prehistoric angelic conflict is, to begin to learn what it teaches.
For it surely answers a wide gamut of questions for those seeking to truly understand the situation that the Lord had us born-again entered into.
I agree. And thanks.
I also know that the Angelic conflict is based upon false accusations that Satan makes against God........That God is unfair and unjust.
We are inundated with ," We don't have the volition to believe His Gospel." And, " His Gospel has/may have condemnation."
And these 2 points are the crux of Satans accusations against God.
Sincere or insincere questions.......We should be ready to defend His Character and nature.
@studier ,I apologize for not staying on the optimistic side. The Angelic conflict is a 3-400 hr study or more. One can hardly condense it down to a few words.
If you are interested........
https://gbible.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Angelic-Conflict.pdf
I also know that the Angelic conflict is based upon false accusations that Satan makes against God........That God is unfair and unjust.
We are inundated with ," We don't have the volition to believe His Gospel." And, " His Gospel has/may have condemnation."
And these 2 points are the crux of Satans accusations against God.
Sincere or insincere questions.......We should be ready to defend His Character and nature.
@studier ,I apologize for not staying on the optimistic side. The Angelic conflict is a 3-400 hr study or more. One can hardly condense it down to a few words.
If you are interested........
https://gbible.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Angelic-Conflict.pdf
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Author Karen Hancock put it this way: “The ultimate conspiracy, its true nature and parameters remain among the most carefully guarded secrets of all time. For the devil has deceived the whole world, as God tells us through the apostle John. Satan is the prince of the powers of the air, the ruler of the earth, the roaring lion prowling about seeking someone to devour. He is craftier than any creature, able to appear as an angel of light, with an indescribably beautiful voice. Farsuperior to man in intellect, he has blinded the minds of men, both Christians and non-Christians alike, persuading them that there is no God, that they are not sinners, that they do not need grace, that they can please God with their own works—thatthere is no devil, no hell, no unseen war at all” (see Rev12:9; Rev13:4; Eph2:2; Joh12:31; Mat4:8-9; Eze28:13-19; 2Cor11:3,14-15).
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Thanks for this link and for your response to me. I've downloaded the doc for my files. I know I've found RBT's version online recently. It's interesting that the doc as far as I can see doesn't reference RBT, but his site sure does, and his teachings and ministry structure and terminology are very much RBT.
Appreciated!
Appreciated!
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All of this got me into looking at the topic re: Heiser's work. He gained quite a following. I watched a video of a 20min interview of N.T. Wright who for anyone who doesn't know is one of the main and well-known scholars working on what's known as the New Perspective on Paul. His comments about the Unseen Realm book although brief seemed highly accepting of the work.
Especially with the Angelic Conflict work in our studied experience, Unseen Realm is also a treat. I remember the "Game On" chapter and those related to it being extremely impactful. Not only is Jesus the aggressor in the conflict taking back all for the Kingdom of God, but the imagery explained in this section of the book was profound. Heiser's view is that the transfiguration also took place at Mt. Hermon - at the gates of Hell - and it's Jesus throwing down the gauntlet as to who He is just before He heads to Jerusalem to the cross - the ultimate victory. Wonderful truths within the Truth for whoever is interested and cares.
It's all really quite staggering and we should all have the entire understanding of who our Lord is and what His actual character is - the extreme toughness (to say the least) when warranted - the extreme love and care of God is Love.
Good study. Happy to think about it again as always. Thanks again.
Especially with the Angelic Conflict work in our studied experience, Unseen Realm is also a treat. I remember the "Game On" chapter and those related to it being extremely impactful. Not only is Jesus the aggressor in the conflict taking back all for the Kingdom of God, but the imagery explained in this section of the book was profound. Heiser's view is that the transfiguration also took place at Mt. Hermon - at the gates of Hell - and it's Jesus throwing down the gauntlet as to who He is just before He heads to Jerusalem to the cross - the ultimate victory. Wonderful truths within the Truth for whoever is interested and cares.
It's all really quite staggering and we should all have the entire understanding of who our Lord is and what His actual character is - the extreme toughness (to say the least) when warranted - the extreme love and care of God is Love.
Good study. Happy to think about it again as always. Thanks again.
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I read your other posts before I read this, so I'll assume part of this has been dealt with and won't hit you back.
You should try to understand that I really have not expressed all my current views on this forum and see no need to and probably won't. I'm very simply secure in Christ, looking at Scripture through my own lens in Spirit, am somewhat keeping up to speed on the latest scholarship, am not dogmatic on things I've determined have well-reasoned arguments from different viewpoints, am always looking for discussions from Scripture and abilities to read and interpret Scripture in context and asking questions to see some reasoning, and I just want to know the Truth, which from day one in the Faith was my request to our Father. I go where I'm led as best I know. I'm cautiously open to whomever seems able to make exegetical sense. I don't think one camp has it all right. I'm enjoying listening to well-studied men in different camps who find after decades things in the Word that makes them turn from previous understandings and find such things as the old Confessions being wrong and actually restraining correct understanding of related doctrines.
There's a lot of work still going on Kroogz. Find some grace and allow me my going where I'm led and questioning whatever I want to question, just as our Father and Lord do. You can't stop me and assuming I'm in fellowship, you're erring in your approach.
You should try to understand that I really have not expressed all my current views on this forum and see no need to and probably won't. I'm very simply secure in Christ, looking at Scripture through my own lens in Spirit, am somewhat keeping up to speed on the latest scholarship, am not dogmatic on things I've determined have well-reasoned arguments from different viewpoints, am always looking for discussions from Scripture and abilities to read and interpret Scripture in context and asking questions to see some reasoning, and I just want to know the Truth, which from day one in the Faith was my request to our Father. I go where I'm led as best I know. I'm cautiously open to whomever seems able to make exegetical sense. I don't think one camp has it all right. I'm enjoying listening to well-studied men in different camps who find after decades things in the Word that makes them turn from previous understandings and find such things as the old Confessions being wrong and actually restraining correct understanding of related doctrines.
There's a lot of work still going on Kroogz. Find some grace and allow me my going where I'm led and questioning whatever I want to question, just as our Father and Lord do. You can't stop me and assuming I'm in fellowship, you're erring in your approach.
Suggestion for those who might not know.
https://gbible.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Angelic-Conflict.pdf
After clicking on the link and opening the page?
Hold down the Ctrl button, and tap the + button a few times.
grace and peace .................
https://gbible.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Angelic-Conflict.pdf
After clicking on the link and opening the page?
Hold down the Ctrl button, and tap the + button a few times.
grace and peace .................
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We can't really know why God made us unless He simply tells us. The Genesis account does not start, "And God was bored, so He made man."
But He did say He made us in His image. So this may clue us in to what His interests were, as He put within us the same interests. All of the career jobs out there put together may describe God's interests, minus all the horror we go through in a flawed world.
But He did say He made us in His image. So this may clue us in to what His interests were, as He put within us the same interests. All of the career jobs out there put together may describe God's interests, minus all the horror we go through in a flawed world.
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