Making a case for women in leadership

[Dino246]

wanna argue the verse isn't saying what it seems to, not to be taken literally( it would be almost impossible for it to be literal)? Fine, but you do have to actually use it, you know, find relevant verses, otherwise vamoose.

"Vamoose"? Do you seriously think you have the authority to tell me to leave? Go laugh at yourself in the mirror.

I have stated my case. You're welcome to disagree, but grow up first.

 

[Dino246]

Through Paul we learn God's structure and hierarchy for the church. Leadership positions are clearly defined for men alone and Paul explains why in 1 Tim 2:11-14. There is no special context or exceptions, and there are no instructions for women leaders within the church. This in no way indicates women are 'less than'. We merely serve different roles.
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I think about it this way: If a woman is willing to ignore God's own commands and usurp a man's role, she is openly rebelling and working against God. Therefore she, and any church that allows the ordination of women, is untrustworthy, unqualified and unbiblical. No one can be for God and against God at the same time.

Welcome to CC. Kindly read my explanation for 1 Timothy 2 in post 655 (previous page).

 

[Edify]

Would anyone agree that there is blindness on some people in this OP?
When obvious context in scripture is overlooked, when scripture isn't investigated as to why one sex isn't allowed to do much when there's a huge shortage of ministers in the church, etc., etc., somebody is spiritually blind.
It's obvious that some churches aren't doing God's will at all in these last days.
It's obvious to me that as the Falling Away is increasing rapidly, more of these people are blind as well as reprobate concerning the faith.
If they are ignorant of their fate, how in the world are you going to change reprobate minds with truth?
YOU AREN'T.

 

[Mem]

There is a difference that must be noted: in the secular world, leadership is effected by force or threat of force. Jesus addresses this clearly in Luke 22:25-26. He makes it crystal clear that among Christians, leaders exercise "authority" by serving, not by domineering. This completely undermines the whole idea of "authority" as the world uses the term, and as many Christians (including, apparently, yourself) use it.

This is the strongest argument against women leadership. Is it bests specifically for this reason that it is considered forbidden? Women have no 'force' to show? But I can see a glaring weakness in that argument when I consider that God uses the weak the confound the strong and foolish things to confound the wise.

There are so many leaders but there so few servants. Servant Leader. Drawn with the alef, which is a picture of an ox, that signifies a leader and also a 'laborer.' The Harvest is ripe!

Jesus told busy bee Martha to sit down, but so much more lovingly, and exampled Mary to her for 'choosing the good thing.' Mary was sitting at the Lord's feet, learning from Him! What?! Yeah! And Martha was worrying over her biscuits!

 

[timemeddler]

"Vamoose"? Do you seriously think you have the authority to tell me to leave? Go laugh at yourself in the mirror.

I have stated my case. You're welcome to disagree, but grow up first.

figure of speech, argument still remains open. And what argument?

 

[timemeddler]

figure of speech, argument still remains open. And what argument?

 

[timemeddler]

Context informs Scripture. Every competent Hermeneutics teacher will tell you that. Your flippant remark tells me that you aren't interested in discussion, but in perpetuating the errors you believe; I'd like to be proven wrong on that.

“I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing;
in pain you shall bring forth children.
Your desire shall be contrary to your husband,
but he shall rule over you.”