A New-Old Denomination?

[Magenta]

I like the cut of your jib. I have been called by God, but mostly just to spread seed, another will water, and yet another
will reap. I will be dead by that time though. This is why I am convinced, I will not partake of the golden age on earth.

1 Corinthians 3 verses 6-7 ~ I planted the seed and Apollos watered it, but God made it grow. So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God Who makes things grow.

 

[Gideon300]

So, I feel I have been called to consolidate the fraying church back into one fold.
I am planning to get multiple ordinations and form a cross-denominational congregation.
It is based roughly on the model of the United States, in that there are layers to government and traditions.

One Corporate entity with lesser congregational entities.

Sunday mornings would look something like this:
Sects meet for early worship in individual rooms.
Tradtions, hold Sunday school
And the second worship before lunch is held all together.

I know I will separate each faction by polity and tradition, meaning that the southern Baptists and reformed Baptists each get an early service and such, but then all Reformed converge into their own Sunday schools by age and type.

The idea only works in a mega church building, but I figure, go big or go home.

The question I have is about traditions, for instance, Reformed Tradition: Reformed Congregational (Like Reformed Baptist), Reformed Presbyterians (all presbys), Reformed Episcopal (REC), and independent Reformed (Non-Denom)

The question is this: What should the Traditions be?
Reformed is one, Restorationist (Plymouth Brethren, Apostolic, etc), Charismatic, Etc?
Can I conflate similar ones like Lutheran and methodist?

First step is to ensure that all who attend are actually born again. Then you'll have some hope of obtaining unity. God has no denominations. There is no theological entrance exam to heaven and there are no separate places for the denominations. All one in Christ Jesus.

I was a member of a Pentecostal church that had a number of cliques, pretty much like Corinth. It was weird. I was youth leader but pretty much left to my own resources. That suited me, but led to a pretty sad conclusion.

Personally, I seek fellowships where doctrine and denomination are less important than truth, life and love. Most believers I know could not care less about denominational doctrines. It's a matter of what suits their personal preferences. It's unbiblical and not the way to growth, but that's the modern "Laodicean" church.

 

[Eli1]

So, I feel I have been called to consolidate the fraying church back into one fold.
I am planning to get multiple ordinations and form a cross-denominational congregation.
It is based roughly on the model of the United States, in that there are layers to government and traditions.

One Corporate entity with lesser congregational entities.

Sunday mornings would look something like this:
Sects meet for early worship in individual rooms.
Tradtions, hold Sunday school
And the second worship before lunch is held all together.

I know I will separate each faction by polity and tradition, meaning that the southern Baptists and reformed Baptists each get an early service and such, but then all Reformed converge into their own Sunday schools by age and type.

The idea only works in a mega church building, but I figure, go big or go home.

The question I have is about traditions, for instance, Reformed Tradition: Reformed Congregational (Like Reformed Baptist), Reformed Presbyterians (all presbys), Reformed Episcopal (REC), and independent Reformed (Non-Denom)

The question is this: What should the Traditions be?
Reformed is one, Restorationist (Plymouth Brethren, Apostolic, etc), Charismatic, Etc?
Can I conflate similar ones like Lutheran and methodist?

The Church is already united when they belive in the central figure called Jesus Christ.
You looking for believers or soldiers?

 

[NightTwister]

To transfer from the Presbyterian to the Baptist sect one must be rebaptized by immersion, but not vice Versa. Yes
My goal is to get everyone in one location, not to make every uniform. Sorry I guess I should have clarified what I meant as one fold.

I don't know why sometime would be rebaptised when their first one was valid.

 

[Seeker47]

Valid point, but that is like Jonah abandoning his call to Nineveh because it would eventually be destroyed, but he was the means by which God communicated repentance and salvation to that generation.

My vision is actually to form synagogue like structures that will be hubs for the Protestant activities and will be closed on sundays.

The closest thing I have seen to your idea is a "Coffee House" design. It appears to work fairly well.

Physically, there a is a "Coffee House" with a very large main seating area with multiple seating arrangements accommodating small groups of 2-20. There is usually at least one small group study going on in this area. These small groups need not register or get pre-authorization. They meet on their own schedule on first-come basis. There is no identified church or denomination associated with this operation. (I believe it is privately owned by a devout but unidentified person of faith.)

Leading off from this main room are four private meeting rooms that are fully equipped to hold most denominational type meetings. These accommodate larger groups and require a small fee and pre-scheduling. It is an ideal opportunity for small church development.

There is no actual common service in the main area but there is a mission. The mission is to send a small cross to every home in the nation. People are encouraged to fill and address envelopes with a printed message of love and a small cross. The "Coffee House" then mails the letters at minimal expense using the USPS Bulk Rate".

This is, in my humble view, an ingenious plan. It is not unusual to see people, friends, family and even strangers sitting together completing this activity while talking and sometimes praying and glorifying together. So far they have sent out just under 4,000,000 million crosses.

As far as I can tell this is a unique program. I have not seen a similar operation anywhere else so I have no idea if this is unique. It can be viewed at: https://crossamerica.net/

I have no personal or financial interest, I just thing it comes close to your calling.

 

[Howdy]

To transfer from the Presbyterian to the Baptist sect one must be rebaptized by immersion, but not vice Versa. Yes
My goal is to get everyone in one location, not to make every uniform. Sorry I guess I should have clarified what I meant as one fold.

What you are asking for is compromise. That is of Satan, not of God. I will never compromise what I believe the Scripture teaches. When I am present where heresy is taught I will not remain silent so I guess I will not be welcomed in your church.

 

[GRACE_ambassador]

When I am present where heresy is taught I will not remain silent so I guess I will not be welcomed in your church.

Precious friend, fits Very Well In Line with God's Command About "such a situation", eh?:

"Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye Separate, Saith The LORD,​

and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, And will be a Father​

unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, Saith The LORD Almighty."​

(2 Corinthians 6:17-18 AV)​

And so I left ( Separated from ) all religious Confusion behind years ago = NO regrets!

Amen.

 

[Seeker47]

Precious friend, fits Very Well In Line with God's Command About "such a situation", eh?:

"Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye Separate, Saith The LORD,​

and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, And will be a Father​

unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, Saith The LORD Almighty."​

(2 Corinthians 6:17-18 AV)​

And so I left ( Separated from ) all religious Confusion behind years ago = NO regrets!

Amen.

I agree, but my problem is this. I believe nearly all people who attend "Church" are sincere, loving souls who are doing their very best to learn and follow God's word, often in spite of the garbage being fed to them. How do we become separate from the lies while not abandoning our commission as a believer. I am having trouble just walking away.

 

[GRACE_ambassador]

I agree, but my problem is this. I believe nearly all people who attend "Church" are sincere, loving souls who are doing their very best to learn and follow God's word, often in spite of the garbage being fed to them. How do we become separate from the lies while not abandoning our commission as a believer. I am having trouble just walking away.

Precious friend @Seeker47, I can empathize with what you are saying. In my own experience,
it was fairly rough, as my wife had just had a 1 lb 11 oz. preemie (blind baby angel girl - now
35 and the sweetest thing! ) along with a hysterectomy. While she was recovering, the
( sincere/loving )wonderful ladies from church helped out bringing us food. I really had
to do some praying about my decision the whole time.

We were very active, attending 3 times a week. It was actually a "book" I had found in the
pastor's library while I was helping the associate print up bulletins (Thursday) for the next
service. I check out three and left him a note of "what I was borrowing" to read and study.
The next Sunday he told me he really doesn't 'loan' out what he has ( poison? ) in his personal library, and asked me to return them. By this time I was "pretty DEEP" into one
of them.

So, then I decided to skip Sunday and Wednesday nights, and finish that particular one, prayerfully and carefully copying ALL The Scripture References it was showing me for a
Major Doctrine of the faith. (I had never heard this stuff before for 8 years: What Was God
Doing to me?). Anyways, I returned them the next Sunday, but, boy did I have questions!

About a week of more prayer went by and I printed The Scriptures I was shown about
Paul's Doctrine of ONE [ Spiritual ] Baptism and went to see the pastor about them.
He said he appreciated me coming with questions = he actually 'agreed' that "Yes, all
(except the divisive ones at Corinth) of Paul's Scriptures were about The Spiritual Baptism
Of 1 Corinthians 12:13 AV. Then he went on [ red flag? ] with: "But, we must always
remember water baptism!"

I thanked him and left a little disheartened, and prayed about it some more for another
couple of weeks, and made the decision to stop attending. After a couple of weeks the
pastor and a couple of men came to find out "why we stopped going"?

They were very cordial brothers indeed, But, in this discussion (another red flag came out?):
the book that I was studying about "Baptism and The Bible", they said in their "fellowship
group" that they did not agree with that author and what he taught.

After they left that statement "made me think" = Yes, there were those that Disagreed
"with What Jesus Taught" and look what happened there.

Leaving and abandoning God's Commission (2 Corinthians 5:17-6:2 AV) to us?

Well, I am a very slow learner, and it took me another 10 years ( God's Timing? ) of Rightly
Divided Bible study before I printed up Basic Distinctions Of Prophecy vs Mystery and started
sharing with my family, friends, and co-workers. God Has Been Faithful, and even now, on the
internet, He keeps sending people from all over the world to "pray for, discuss with, and share"
These Precious Truths from His Holy Word.

Precious friend, thanks for listening, and May The Wonderful LORD Give you
Comfort, Encouragement, and Edification on the rest of your own Grace journey.

Amen.

More here, if you wish:

"Distinctions" Update/Additions #’s: (19) (20) (21) (22) (23) (24)

 

[tourist]

Who called you? It certainly was not God.
What you are proposing is not according to Scripture.
I would recommend everyone avoid joining you in this effort.

I would consider going if there were a coffee and donut fellowship afterward in the basement.