Does it help?

[Shepherd]

Oh those white people, oh those black people, oh those men, oh those women.

But the truth is everybody acts the same and all people are prone to the same behavior and can be at fault.

The truth is black people want power and control the same as white people, and women the same as men.

This world is a power struggle and has been pushing for power and control for thousands of years between the nations, ethnic groups, and genders.

Studies suggest that more female rulers have waged wars throughout history than male rulers.

Queens were more likely to wage war and win new territory than kings.

Researchers found that over the past 500 years, queens have been more likely to wage war than male rulers – and were more likely to win new territory.

And married queens were found to be especially war-like.

Scientists have proven historical queens were “38.8%” more likely to declare war than kings.

When Canadian cognitive psychologist and author Steven Pinker claimed men instigated “almost all the world's wars and genocides.”

US researchers formally tested whether there was indeed more peace under female rulers, but their results showed the very opposite: that female rulers “caused wars” much more often.

Pro 21:9 It is better to dwell in a corner of the housetop, than with a brawling woman in a wide house.

Pro 21:19 It is better to dwell in the wilderness, than with a contentious and an angry woman.

Pro 30:20 Such is the way of an adulterous woman; she eateth, and wipeth her mouth, and saith, I have done no wickedness.

Ecc 7:26 And I find more bitter than death the woman, whose heart is snares and nets, and her hands as bands: whoso pleaseth God shall escape from her; but the sinner shall be taken by her.
Ecc 7:27 Behold, this have I found, saith the preacher, counting one by one, to find out the account:
Ecc 7:28 Which yet my soul seeketh, but I find not: one man among a thousand have I found; but a woman among all those have I not found.

Woman are just as prone to upset the household the same as men.

The ethnic groups point their finger at other ethnic groups pointing out faults, and bad behavior, and the genders the same, all the while their group acts the same, and wants the same.

Why is that.

Because arrogance does not care if it has faults but it wants to dog out, and belittle, and does not care about truth, or facts, but it wants to exalt itself.

Anything they say about a group that is bad applies to them for it is human nature that all groups have people that partake in.

So they cannot exalt themselves in that circumstance.

So they make the whole group out to be bad with the attitude sure some of us do it but not all of us so we are better.

Women do it with all men are cheaters, and black people do it with all white people are guilty of slavery, and men do it to women, and white people do it to black people.

If preachers get on men in general then they have to do the same with women for everybody is prone to not acting right for in the flesh dwells no good thing.

Exactly.
The Book Of Titus for instance, chapter 2, outlines the responsibilities of both men and women, speaking to both at the same time. In every other NT exhortation I have read, whether it be Paul or Peter, it's done the same way: it speaks to both the wives and the husbands at the same time. Why do I think that is important? Because if a preacher stands behind a pulpit and "get's on to" either sex, the opposite sex is also sitting there in the pew listening, knowing they are about to be "got on to" as well. So, when he's rebuking the men, the ladies can't say "amen to that, tell him" and the husbands can't do the same. Everybody then realizes they have room for improvement and there is no "finger pointing" in word or in silence. Notice the following is not accusing either sex, nor is it placing all the responsibility on one sex or the other. And, it is being directly addressed to the preacher, telling him what he is to teach.....

Titus 2: 1But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine:

2That the aged men be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in charity, in patience.

3The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;

4That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,

5To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.

6Young men likewise exhort to be sober minded.

7In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine shewing uncorruptness, gravity, sincerity,

8Sound speech, that cannot be condemned; that he that is of the contrary part may be ashamed, having no evil thing to say of you.

 

[Shepherd]

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From the 1:07 to the 1:18 mark he says the reason she's a rebel because she's following a rebel", then there is a pause with lots of clapping from the audience. Do you reckon there would be all that clapping if he actually was "speaking the things which become sound doctrine"? Because the Bible never says that. No, it's our own personal individual responsibility as to whether we are a "rebel" or not.

Then from about the 1:50 to the 2:00 he says "....God's not going to listen to your prayer and He's not going to change your woman"
Let me say that "sound doctrine", here, would have been to quote 1 Peter 3:1 where it says "Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation . In that way, a wife CAN change, things could change. If one spouse takes their own responsibility, does their own part and stops fighting, conflict can cease; families can be helped.
But, instead, this preacher appears to be satisfied to hear all the ladies clapping after he just basically told them it's all their husbands' fault that they are rebels who don't have to submit, which is totally contrary to "sound doctrine". I'm not just picking on Tony Evans: this kind of stupid junk is being preached all over America. One spouse is a "rebel", the reason they're a rebel is because the other is a rebel, turmoil ensues, turmoil continues because each is waiting for the other to "get right". Instead, they can be TAUGHT to get right no matter what the other does, win them back to God, and things can change for the better. What I want to ask, does blaming one and excusing the other help anything? Is it Biblical? Is it "sound doctrine"?

 

[Shepherd]

I apologize for the "stupid junk" comment. I should have toned that down considerably.

 

[shittim]

Don't recall ever growing in the Spirit in anything from the Tony Evans ministry.
YMMV
Best wishes

 

[GaryA]

I apologize for the "stupid junk" comment. I should have toned that down considerably.

I can certainly appreciate your show of sensitivity, concern for manners, etc.; however - sometimes, it is okay to just "tell it like it is"...

 

[Shepherd]

Here's another piece of scripture that seems to be skimmed over....
31 The words of king Lemuel, the prophecy that his mother taught him. These are the words of a wise king, a king who HONORS his mother, and honors her wise words.

2 What, my son? and what, the son of my womb? and what, the son of my vows?

3 Give not thy strength unto women, nor thy ways to that which destroyeth kings.

4 It is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine; nor for princes strong drink:

5 Lest they drink, and forget the law, and pervert the judgment of any of the afflicted.

6 Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts.

7 Let him drink, and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more.

8 Open thy mouth for the dumb in the cause of all such as are appointed to destruction.

9 Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy. She taught him not to be a drunken, hedonistic fool, and to be compassionate, and to be an advocate for those in desperate need of salvation and help...and this king is now relating all of that to us.

10 Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.

11 The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.

12 She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.

13 She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.

14 She is like the merchants' ships; she bringeth her food from afar.

15 She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens.

16 She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.

17 She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms.

18 She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night.

19 She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.

20 She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.

21 She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet.

22 She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple.

23 Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land.

24 She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant.

25 Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come.

26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness.

27 She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.

28 Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.

29 Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all.

30 Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the Lord, she shall be praised.

31 Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates.

This proverb is not just about a "virtuous woman". It's about a family full of blessings and LOVE which builds each other up with trust, honor, and praise. I would also note that perhaps this "virtuous woman" was wise enough to choose a husband with the wisdom of King Lemuel instead of the hedonistic fool in verses 3-6 above.
On a typical day, in the Proverbs 31 family's life, the wife might ask: "Honey may I buy that parcel of land, we spoke about, and plant us a vineyard?" And he says, "yes, my love; and take your maiden-servants with you to help. Then she says "Yes, my darling and I will pay them generously". And then he says "BTW, that fine scarlet silk shirt you made me is beautiful and fits me just right, all the elders down at the city gate bragged on it. I proudly told them that you made it; thank you Honey". And then she says "you are so welcome my dear, I will be going down town today to sell some "linen girdles". And he says, "those look great! I'm sure you will get a good price, "don't be long, and be careful, ". The kids in the virtuous household have also learned appreciation, obedience, submission, honor and praise because they are growing up with the example of Mom and Dad loving, appreciating, trusting and supporting each other instead of fussing and fighting. It's all in there if you read it. I would also add, that if either Mom or Dad ever falters, gets down, in a "backslidden" slump, and it happens to all of us, then it's no time to say "I will love her when she submits" or "I will submit when he loves or "leads'" No, then it's time to obey 1 Peter chapter 3. The "Virtuous" family has each other's back.