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Oh those white people, oh those black people, oh those men, oh those women.

But the truth is everybody acts the same and all people are prone to the same behavior and can be at fault.

The truth is black people want power and control the same as white people, and women the same as men.

This world is a power struggle and has been pushing for power and control for thousands of years between the nations, ethnic groups, and genders.

Studies suggest that more female rulers have waged wars throughout history than male rulers.

Queens were more likely to wage war and win new territory than kings.

Researchers found that over the past 500 years, queens have been more likely to wage war than male rulers – and were more likely to win new territory.

And married queens were found to be especially war-like.

Scientists have proven historical queens were “38.8%” more likely to declare war than kings.

When Canadian cognitive psychologist and author Steven Pinker claimed men instigated “almost all the world's wars and genocides.”

US researchers formally tested whether there was indeed more peace under female rulers, but their results showed the very opposite: that female rulers “caused wars” much more often.

Pro 21:9 It is better to dwell in a corner of the housetop, than with a brawling woman in a wide house.

Pro 21:19 It is better to dwell in the wilderness, than with a contentious and an angry woman.

Pro 30:20 Such is the way of an adulterous woman; she eateth, and wipeth her mouth, and saith, I have done no wickedness.

Ecc 7:26 And I find more bitter than death the woman, whose heart is snares and nets, and her hands as bands: whoso pleaseth God shall escape from her; but the sinner shall be taken by her.
Ecc 7:27 Behold, this have I found, saith the preacher, counting one by one, to find out the account:
Ecc 7:28 Which yet my soul seeketh, but I find not: one man among a thousand have I found; but a woman among all those have I not found.

Woman are just as prone to upset the household the same as men.

The ethnic groups point their finger at other ethnic groups pointing out faults, and bad behavior, and the genders the same, all the while their group acts the same, and wants the same.

Why is that.

Because arrogance does not care if it has faults but it wants to dog out, and belittle, and does not care about truth, or facts, but it wants to exalt itself.

Anything they say about a group that is bad applies to them for it is human nature that all groups have people that partake in.

So they cannot exalt themselves in that circumstance.

So they make the whole group out to be bad with the attitude sure some of us do it but not all of us so we are better.

Women do it with all men are cheaters, and black people do it with all white people are guilty of slavery, and men do it to women, and white people do it to black people.

If preachers get on men in general then they have to do the same with women for everybody is prone to not acting right for in the flesh dwells no good thing.
Exactly.
The Book Of Titus for instance, chapter 2, outlines the responsibilities of both men and women, speaking to both at the same time. In every other NT exhortation I have read, whether it be Paul or Peter, it's done the same way: it speaks to both the wives and the husbands at the same time. Why do I think that is important? Because if a preacher stands behind a pulpit and "get's on to" either sex, the opposite sex is also sitting there in the pew listening, knowing they are about to be "got on to" as well. So, when he's rebuking the men, the ladies can't say "amen to that, tell him" and the husbands can't do the same. Everybody then realizes they have room for improvement and there is no "finger pointing" in word or in silence. Notice the following is not accusing either sex, nor is it placing all the responsibility on one sex or the other. And, it is being directly addressed to the preacher, telling him what he is to teach.....

Titus 2: 1But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine:

2That the aged men be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in charity, in patience.

3The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;

4That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,

5To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.

6Young men likewise exhort to be sober minded.

7In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine shewing uncorruptness, gravity, sincerity,

8Sound speech, that cannot be condemned; that he that is of the contrary part may be ashamed, having no evil thing to say of you.
 

Shepherd

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From the 1:07 to the 1:18 mark he says the reason she's a rebel because she's following a rebel", then there is a pause with lots of clapping from the audience. Do you reckon there would be all that clapping if he actually was "speaking the things which become sound doctrine"? Because the Bible never says that. No, it's our own personal individual responsibility as to whether we are a "rebel" or not.

Then from about the 1:50 to the 2:00 he says "....God's not going to listen to your prayer and He's not going to change your woman"
Let me say that "sound doctrine", here, would have been to quote 1 Peter 3:1 where it says "Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation . In that way, a wife CAN change, things could change. If one spouse takes their own responsibility, does their own part and stops fighting, conflict can cease; families can be helped.
But, instead, this preacher appears to be satisfied to hear all the ladies clapping after he just basically told them it's all their husbands' fault that they are rebels who don't have to submit, which is totally contrary to "sound doctrine". I'm not just picking on Tony Evans: this kind of stupid junk is being preached all over America. One spouse is a "rebel", the reason they're a rebel is because the other is a rebel, turmoil ensues, turmoil continues because each is waiting for the other to "get right". Instead, they can be TAUGHT to get right no matter what the other does, win them back to God, and things can change for the better. What I want to ask, does blaming one and excusing the other help anything? Is it Biblical? Is it "sound doctrine"?
 

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Don't recall ever growing in the Spirit in anything from the Tony Evans ministry.
YMMV
Best wishes:)(y):unsure::coffee:
 

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I apologize for the "stupid junk" comment. I should have toned that down considerably.
I can certainly appreciate your show of sensitivity, concern for manners, etc.; however - sometimes, it is okay to just "tell it like it is"... ;)