How many "comings" of Jesus after the advent?

[Psalm1]

Thanks Psalm1 for your response.

"And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. " I would say that Jesus has the keys now.

What seems to happen to people when they read the Bible is that they are looking for physical circumstances to back up the scripture. They think, this scripture must be talking about a time when you can look around physically and see no more crime or physical war. But it is talking about the victory, instead, for believers in terms of their salvation. Can Satan stop someone from being saved if Christ is for them. No, not at all. He is bound. Will they live forever in Christ. Yes, Christ has paid the price.

He is defeated.
He will be bound in the mill.
My position is pre mil not amil

 

[Psalm1]

Thanks Psalm1 for your response.

"And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. " I would say that Jesus has the keys now.

What seems to happen to people when they read the Bible is that they are looking for physical circumstances to back up the scripture. They think, this scripture must be talking about a time when you can look around physically and see no more crime or physical war. But it is talking about the victory, instead, for believers in terms of their salvation. Can Satan stop someone from being saved if Christ is for them. No, not at all. He is bound. Will they live forever in Christ. Yes, Christ has paid the price.

I don't look at it as you describe me.

 

[Psalm1]

I do: I was intrigued by Rev like most Christians, but also like most Christians through the centuries
I came to realize that it was rather a waste of time to try to figure out the details.

So have fun and when you learn that the purpose of Christ's next coming is harvesting the wheat to heaven
and burning the weeds in hell per Matt. 13:30 we can move on to more important teachings regarding
becoming mature Christians. Happy trails!

Amen.
The grain harvest.
Study it.
It is 3 parts.
Firstfruits
Main harvest
Corners and cleaners.

The burning is after the mil as Jesus taught.

Postrib rapture theory is a mix of too many things unexplainable and forcefitted into an impossibility. ( As is evidenced in trying to make the LOF someplace other than where the bible puts it)

 

[greenonions]

IOW, Jesus with a sickle and no sword, sitting on a cloud, is the exact same thing as Jesus sitting on a horse with a sword and no sickle ?

Jesus the GROOM coming for a bride with no horses, swords, sickles, or crowns, is the same as Jesus on a horse with a crown and a sword, not coming for a bride but in a warrior mode?

Amil doctrine is a different Bible.
No way to debate someone with amil doctrine.
I simply can not make that fatal grand canyon leap.

I think the sickle is symbolic. The sickle is #2 in my post. The horse and sword is #3 in my post. If you mean the GROOM in a parable yes, but Jesus doesn't need to look the same as something in a parable. Are you not aware that Revelation 19 talks about BOTH a wedding and a warrior? Is that so hard to accept?

I'm not amil. I'm pre-mil, post-trib.

 

[greenonions]

Amen.
The grain harvest.
Study it.
It is 3 parts.
Firstfruits
Main harvest
Corners and cleaners.

The burning is after the mil as Jesus taught.

Postrib rapture theory is a mix of too many things unexplainable and forcefitted into an impossibility. ( As is evidenced in trying to make the LOF someplace other than where the bible puts it)

Allow me to comment my personal post-trib opinion of the lake of fire. There are two times when people are cast into the lake of fire. Rev. 19:20 (after Jesus' Second coming before the 1000 years) and in Rev. 20:15 (after 1000 years). I think Rev. 19:20 is the same as the Sheep and Goats judgment with the believers as sheep and the captured soldiers (i.e. the beast as many people and not one antichrist) as goats, and the beast is thrown into the lake of fire. There are survivors. 1000 years later, more people are judged and thrown into the lake of fire.

As for your 3-part harvest, consider that 1 Corinthians 15:23 that there is a 2-part harvest: Christ the firstfruits, and those who are Christ's at His coming.

 

[homwardbound]

There's a lot of doctrine placing the rapture of the church at different time frames around the tribulation.
In the post tribulation rapture doctrine, as well as ,the post wrath rapture doctrine, they Have a cornerstone of one Singular coming of Jesus.

My question is, how do they figure that there is one coming, when we see several comings of the Lord Jesus, in scripture?

We see 2 in Matthew chapter 24, and we see one in Matthew 25, we see one in acts chapter one, we see 1 in revelation 14, we see 1 in first. Thess chapter 4, and we see one in revelation, chapter 19.
So the Obvious question is, how do they fit all those Into 1 coming?

All I can say is, Jesus is risen, where Father gives new life to those that believe Jesus as risen for them. To see to not worry anymore, just love all as are loved first 1John 4:19
However it all plays out in future, it will play out and probably not as all think. IMHO
For if satan knew about Jesus going to be risen and be the Savior over satan's leading people that he did lead and then got those keys he had taken from him at the resurrection of Jesus. Defeated. Satan, would not have ever encouraged killing him, you think?
Matthew 12:29
Or else how can one enter into a strong man’s house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.

you see, Satan misinterpreted that verse above, did not see the resurrection perfection, and then saw it once Jesus was risen on that third day. I know as a person, how many times I have heard and learned misinterpretations as well, anyone else?
I am in process too, learning truth over errors here in this world still. Therefore for me best to go to God, not self or anyone else. Go hear, seek, yet take all to Father Daddy, PaPa in prayer over worldly self desires please thank you Father, I know you work mysteriously, that is fact, proven to me from you, thank you

 

[Psalm1]

I think the sickle is symbolic. The sickle is #2 in my post. The horse and sword is #3 in my post. If you mean the GROOM in a parable yes, but Jesus doesn't need to look the same as something in a parable. Are you not aware that Revelation 19 talks about BOTH a wedding and a warrior? Is that so hard to accept?

I'm not amil. I'm pre-mil, post-trib.

Of course it is symbolic.
His robe dipped in blood is symbolic.
His crown is symbolic.
Signifies his kingship
Does not mean he has no robe or crown.

The ot sacrificial Lamb was symbolic.
That Does not mean there was no literal lamb.

 

[Psalm1]

Allow me to comment my personal post-trib opinion of the lake of fire. There are two times when people are cast into the lake of fire. Rev. 19:20 (after Jesus' Second coming before the 1000 years) and in Rev. 20:15 (after 1000 years). I think Rev. 19:20 is the same as the Sheep and Goats judgment with the believers as sheep and the captured soldiers (i.e. the beast as many people and not one antichrist) as goats, and the beast is thrown into the lake of fire. There are survivors. 1000 years later, more people are judged and thrown into the lake of fire.

As for your 3-part harvest, consider that 1 Corinthians 15:23 that there is a 2-part harvest: Christ the firstfruits, and those who are Christ's at His coming.

So the bible is wrong and grain harvest is not 3 parts?
Is that why you are attempting to modify the grain harvest into only 2 parts?

BTW It is not my 3 part harvest. In fact, you could basically say it is 4 parts as if declared in the Bible.
1 is first fruits
2 is main. Harvest
3 is gleaners
4. Is the corners

If you separate the corners the cleaners it is actually 4 parts.
I know you don't like that but that's what the bible says.

 

[Psalm1]

Allow me to comment my personal post-trib opinion of the lake of fire. There are two times when people are cast into the lake of fire. Rev. 19:20 (after Jesus' Second coming before the 1000 years) and in Rev. 20:15 (after 1000 years). I think Rev. 19:20 is the same as the Sheep and Goats judgment with the believers as sheep and the captured soldiers (i.e. the beast as many people and not one antichrist) as goats, and the beast is thrown into the lake of fire. There are survivors. 1000 years later, more people are judged and thrown into the lake of fire.

As for your 3-part harvest, consider that 1 Corinthians 15:23 that there is a 2-part harvest: Christ the firstfruits, and those who are Christ's at His coming.

Re read Rev 19.
The marriage supper is finished in heaven, because the bride has become the wife.

You tried to tie the marriage to the battle.
1) the newly weds in Jewish custom were excused from battle for a year or so.
This points to the pretrib rapture doctrine as authentic.
2) you did not notice when the white horse is introduced it is an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT thought and setting.
John has moved to the next setting.
(The warrior king on his horse)

9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

 

[Psalm1]

Allow me to comment my personal post-trib opinion of the lake of fire. There are two times when people are cast into the lake of fire. Rev. 19:20 (after Jesus' Second coming before the 1000 years) and in Rev. 20:15 (after 1000 years). I think Rev. 19:20 is the same as the Sheep and Goats judgment with the believers as sheep and the captured soldiers (i.e. the beast as many people and not one antichrist) as goats, and the beast is thrown into the lake of fire. There are survivors. 1000 years later, more people are judged and thrown into the lake of fire.

As for your 3-part harvest, consider that 1 Corinthians 15:23 that there is a 2-part harvest: Christ the firstfruits, and those who are Christ's at His coming.

Here is Rev 19:20.
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Only 2 cast in and they are hybrids.