ok yeah I can see how that might be divisive especially if one follows the doctrine of TULIP
A call for unity and love
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Yes, and I am aware of the instructions of Jesus:
TOJ #100: Communicate! [Matt. 18:15-17a] Or in the words of Paul, speak the truth in love (EPH 4:15). This TOJ is closely related to the next one. Communication is the method for converting Sinners (RM 10:14) and for maturing saved sinners (HB 5:11-6:1).
Note the four steps for resolving disagreements: talk privately, include a neutral third party to facilitate the discussion, enlist mature church representatives to act in lieu of a court, and then excommunicate the person who is acting like a pagan (TOJ #102).
However, I am not sure how to apply this TOJ on CC.
Which is directly the opposite of the original intent of your first post unless I read it wrong.
oh ok, I just know it had something I said because my avatar was on it so I assumed it was directed at me so who was it for and what was said?
My post #3 said:
"I amen your appeal for spiritual oneness, and I agree that the TULIP-MFW issue is the most divisive one on CC,
and another one in my recent experience is the WB-SB debate. Hopefully the CC administrators will eventually
realize that TULIP and WB advocates pervert the NT Gospel or good news that God loves and offers salvation to all
and take appropriate action regarding their judgmental attitude, as I understand they have done with Judaizers,
Sabbatarians and others I encountered after joining CC last October. IOW, may admin amen the Scriptures you cited.
LIC"
Okay, just what part of this post is untrue or divisive? Obviously it is TULIP that divides humanity into those beloved by God
and those hated by God, whereas just as obviously the NT teaches that God loves everyone. Seven Scriptures teaching divine
omnilove include: 1John 4:7-12, Rom. 5:8, Matt. 5:44&48, Gal. 5:6&14, Eph. 3:17b-19, Eph. 5:2 and 1Tim. 2:3-4, which might be
deemed the “7 pearls”. Christ died to show God’s love and the possible salvation of all (Rom. 5:6-8) including His enemies
(ungodly, atheist, anti-Christ, heretics).
Don't overlook the FACT that many espouse doctrines that are not supported by any Bible verses whatsoever,
and those same people have what is called CDS. That means if you post actual Scripture which supports your
position and they don't like it, they simply call you a Calvinist and claim you are a TULIPist. In fact those
same people with CDS rewrite Scripture to force the Bible to say things it does not.
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There is a lot of forcing going on!
I really like those who say---
But this is what it really means.
I like to ask myself when considering the meaning of scripture is that what it says or is that what I am saying?
I cannot count the number of people who claim I am a Calvinist, and others who go by what the Bible
actually says get called the same whether they are or they are not. I already told you what happened.
He falsely accused me of a slew of things and in the middle of him insisting I should be seeking peace
with him about it he made the same false accusation again about me blaspheming God. Feet, dust, shake.
What could they possibly have an issue with? I merely cite their own dogma:
T – total depravity, meaning souls are unable to exercise sufficient MFW to seek salvation.
U – unconditional election, meaning that souls need not satisfy a divine requirement such as faith or repentance, but God chooses to save some while damning the rest to hell.
L – limited atonement, meaning that Christ died to pay the penalty of sin only for elect souls.
I – irresistible grace, meaning that elect souls cannot resist or refuse God’s will for them to be saved.
P – perseverance of the saints, meaning that the elect cannot repudiate their salvation and commit apostasy, because God perseveres in keeping them saved.
If by "have an issue" you mean "disagree", well that can be discussed in a congenial manner like disagreements
on CC regarding other issues, right?
Well that shouldn't have happened at all and I was not there so I cannot say on the matter but like you said shake the dust off your feet. I know your not a calvinist
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That is why we should always approach Scripture with the attitude---
Teach me.
So the first thing is to pray and then put aside what you believe, what you think you know.