What's your take on Gaza? Is Israel doing everything right?

[HeIsHere]

Because Zionists use the tactic of collectively lying to try establish a false narrative.

Hasbara.

It has has a wide spread propaganda and blackmail program.

How many times was Ehud Barak seen visiting Epstein in New York, at least once a month has been alleged with pictures that prove it, I wonder why would that be? Hmmm?

I gave you a bit more benefit of the doubt, because you claimed you weren't a Zionist. But you're behaving just like one.

You instinct is correct he started a thread that lines up with it.

 

[ZNP]

Because Zionists use the tactic of collectively lying to try establish a false narrative. Exactly what is being done. Someone else who sees this being done (e.g. me) can destroy the tactic, hence my comments (and possibly your ire at them exposing the lie?)

It wasn't a valid question. One should not be presumed to be a psychopath, a genocidal murderer, a pedophile or anything similar for stating facts. This is another Zionist tactic, more commonly applied to inconvenient truths about World War II (and being called a Nazi or Holocaust Denier), but it's still one of their favourite tactics. Do all Zionists have to reassure me every time they support Israel that they are not really Nazis because they are supporting a genocidal regime? Even if they did, its not likely a genocidal Nazi (or Zionist) is going to tell the truth about it, anyway.

I gave you a bit more benefit of the doubt, because you claimed you weren't a Zionist. But you're behaving just like one.

All you do is insult people. I would like you to answer the question, what is your take on Gaza? Is Israel doing the best they can under difficult circumstances? Do you side with Hamas? Or do you buy into the narrative that the people of Gaza whose government's stated purpose was to eradicate Israel from the river to the sea, that they are the innocent victims in all this, unaware that Terrorists were running the country, unaware that the terrorists were housed under the schools and hospitals in tunnels and that the terrorists were teaching their children to also become terrorists?

 

[ZNP]

Hasbara.

It has has a wide spread propaganda and blackmail program.

How many times was Ehud Barak seen visiting Epstein in New York, at least once a month has been alleged with pictures that prove it, I wonder why would that be? Hmmm?




You instinct is correct he started a thread that lines up with it.

I would like you to answer the question, what is your take on Gaza? Is Israel doing the best they can under difficult circumstances? Do you side with Hamas? Or do you buy into the narrative that the people of Gaza whose government's stated purpose was to eradicate Israel from the river to the sea, that they are the innocent victims in all this, unaware that Terrorists were running the country, unaware that the terrorists were housed under the schools and hospitals in tunnels and that the terrorists were teaching their children to also become terrorists?

 

[HeIsHere]

All you do is insult people.

 

[HeIsHere]

All you do is insult people. I would like you to answer the question, what is your take on Gaza? Is Israel doing the best they can under difficult circumstances? Do you side with Hamas? Or do you buy into the narrative that the people of Gaza whose government's stated purpose was to eradicate Israel from the river to the sea, that they are the innocent victims in all this, unaware that Terrorists were running the country, unaware that the terrorists were housed under the schools and hospitals in tunnels and that the terrorists were teaching their children to also become terrorists?

Ahh yes ..the self-indicting question, let us see if they will fall into the ditch I set up?

Do you side with Hamas?

 

[ZNP]

Glad to see you acknowledge reading that post, can you now answer the questions?

 

[CommodoreTeach]

All you do is insult people. I would like you to answer the question, what is your take on Gaza? Is Israel doing the best they can under difficult circumstances? Do you side with Hamas? Or do you buy into the narrative that the people of Gaza whose government's stated purpose was to eradicate Israel from the river to the sea, that they are the innocent victims in all this, unaware that Terrorists were running the country, unaware that the terrorists were housed under the schools and hospitals in tunnels and that the terrorists were teaching their children to also become terrorists?

Perhaps tax payer money can stop being used to fund the genocide being conducted by the state of Israel, the military can stop supporting the regime, and foreign agents pushing propaganda or laws prohibiting freedom of speech in the West (or even freedom to boycott genocidal regimes) can be held to account as spies or for treason for those who have citizenship? Certainly, participating in genocide on either side is not something any Christian should support, and the investigation and prosecution of the worldwide pedophile blackmail network run by Epstein to the benefit of the state of Israel would be a promising start.

 

[HeIsHere]

Glad to see you acknowledge reading that post, can you now answer the questions?

I am interested in acknowledging the accuracy and truth that @CommodoreTeach posts, so yes am reading for that reason alone.

 

[ZNP]

Ahh yes ..the self-indicting question, let us see if they will fall into the ditch I set up?

Do you side with Hamas?

There is no ditch, I can answer the questions: What is your take on Gaza?


Is Israel doing the best they can under difficult circumstances? I don't know. I do know they were attacked by terrorists who have spent years digging tunnels designed to use schools and hospitals as a shield for their criminal activity. I know that as poor as Gaza is the terrorists have been supplied by others like Iran. I know that anyone who had a neighbor attacking them like Hamas is attacking Israel would demand that their government use the military to put a stop to it. However, no one will know the answer to this question fully until a full investigation can be done after the war is over.

Do you side with Hamas? No.

Or

Do you buy into the narrative that the people of Gaza whose government's stated purpose was to eradicate Israel from the river to the sea, that they are the innocent victims in all this, unaware that Terrorists were running the country, unaware that the terrorists were housed under the schools and hospitals in tunnels and that the terrorists were teaching their children to also become terrorists? No. The US will be held accountable for what their leaders and rulers do just as Gaza will. Every since Yasser Arafat the government of Gaza has been very clear on what their objectives are and that they are not conducive to living in peace with Israel, their neighbor.

 

[ZNP]

I am interested in acknowledging the accuracy and truth that @CommodoreTeach posts, so yes am reading for that reason alone.

Keep hiding, nothing can be any clearer about your position when you are afraid to write it down clearly for all to see.

 

[HeIsHere]

Perhaps tax payer money can stop being used to fund the genocide being conducted by the state of Israel, the military can stop supporting the regime, and foreign agents pushing propaganda or laws prohibiting freedom of speech in the West (or even freedom to boycott genocidal regimes) can be held to account as spies or for treason for those who have citizenship? Certainly, participating in genocide on either side is not something any Christian should support, and the investigation and prosecution of the worldwide pedophile blackmail network run by Epstein to the benefit of the state of Israel would be a promising start.

People have no idea of the bigger picture here do they.

The "regathered people" have to do all this blackmail, false flags etc., to ensure their survival, what happened to divine protection.

 

[ZNP]

Perhaps tax payer money can stop being used to fund the genocide being conducted by the state of Israel, the military can stop supporting the regime, and foreign agents pushing propaganda or laws prohibiting freedom of speech in the West (or even freedom to boycott genocidal regimes) can be held to account as spies or for treason for those who have citizenship? Certainly, participating in genocide on either side is not something any Christian should support, and the investigation and prosecution of the worldwide pedophile blackmail network run by Epstein to the benefit of the state of Israel would be a promising start.

So if I am to understand this correctly

1. Israel is guilty of funding genocide with their tax payer money. This includes pushing propaganda and laws prohibiting free speech in the West. (What about Islam, are they funding propaganda, don't they prohibit free speech?)
2. Christians should not participate in genocide on either side. (What about Muslims?)
3. Investigate and prosecute the Blackmail network run by Epstein for the benefit of Israel. (are you saying the people being blackmailed for going to Epstein Island get a pass?)

It sure seems to me that your list would be fully and 100% supported by Hamas.

 

[CommodoreTeach]

People have no idea of the bigger picture here do they.

The "regathered people" have to do all this blackmail, false flags etc., to ensure their survival, what happened to divine protection.

It's blasphemous, I believe. Attributing the works of the devil to God. Did God ultimately permit it? I believe yes. But even for the latest to hit the mainstream, are those who are saying God blessed the state saying He did it via Epstein's vast pedophile network, as that is how it got where its at today?

The God I worship works miraculously and with mercy and love, not through deceit, political intrigue, assassinations, pedophilia and blackmail. The one who works that way is spoken about in scripture, but is a very different "god".

 

[CommodoreTeach]

So if I am to understand this correctly

1. Israel is guilty of funding genocide with their tax payer money. This includes pushing propaganda and laws prohibiting free speech in the West. (What about Islam, are they funding propaganda, don't they prohibit free speech?)
2. Christians should not participate in genocide on either side. (What about Muslims?)
3. Investigate and prosecute the Blackmail network run by Epstein for the benefit of Israel. (are you saying the people being blackmailed for going to Epstein Island get a pass?)

It sure seems to me that your list would be fully and 100% supported by Hamas.

It likely would be supported by the Founding Fathers also, and certainly is more consistent with Jesus' teachings than the current practice. Seems funny why there needs to be so much fighting over what should be done, given the current practice only seems to benefit one small minority...

 

[HeIsHere]

It's blasphemous, I believe. Attributing the works of the devil to God. Did God ultimately permit it? I believe yes. But even for the latest to hit the mainstream, are those who are saying God blessed the state saying He did it via Epstein's vast pedophile network, as that is how it got where its at today?

The God I worship works miraculously and with mercy and love, not through deceit, political intrigue, assassinations, pedophilia and blackmail. The one who works that way is spoken about in scripture, but is a very different "god".

Amen, that is why this is so troubling.

Many pastors (those who follow covenant theology, the real biblical teaching) now are talking about how dispensationalism has

created apathy towards evil/active support of evil .... another master stroke by the father of lies.

Even those who agree Israel is secular nation, still attribute its existence to a miracle..... "born in a day" they shout!!

 

[CommodoreTeach]

Amen, that is why this is so troubling.

Many pastors (those who follow covenant theology, the real biblical teaching) now are talking about how dispensationalism has

created apathy towards evil/active support of evil .... another master stroke by the father of lies.

Even those who agree Israel is secular nation, still attribute its existence to a miracle..... "born in a day" they shout!!

Lol. Yes. "Spawned" might be a more accurate term than born...

 

[ZNP]

It likely would be supported by the Founding Fathers also, and certainly is more consistent with Jesus' teachings than the current practice. Seems funny why there needs to be so much fighting over what should be done, given the current practice only seems to benefit one small minority...

I support everything you say, the only thing I disagree with is your bias.

What about Russia, China, Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis, etc? In a world where everyone is clearly focused on genociding the Jews whether we refer to the failed attempt made by the Germans, or the Pogroms in Russia, or the things that Spain did, or we look at the current situation with this attempt to eradicate Israel from the river to the sea the idea that Israel needs to stop funding a military that can obliterate their neighbors is great if they all agree to also stop funding their militaries to obliterate Israel.

I am all for free speech that is responsible, but you single out Israel as the culprit when all observable facts show that the Islamic nations, and Russia, and China, and virtually every other nation on earth does the same thing or worse. That is biased.

You blame Epstein for setting up a honey pot, I am all for investigating and prosecuting the people who set this up and who blackmailed others. But I am also for investigating and prosecuting all who went to Epstein Island. I understand that you can go to other places like Haiti and Thailand and also get involved with Pedophilia while many of the tourists to these places are unaware of what is going on. However, there is absolutely no way anyone went to Epstein island without knowing the purpose. I want them all prosecuted. No one gets a pass. Now if you cooperate with the authorities I am all for a reduced sentence, but at the same time cooperating probably means a death sentence from the Moloch worshippers.

I also agree 100% that Christians should not participate in genocide in any way, shape or form. But, this rule (thou shalt not kill) applies to all people including Muslims.

 

[CommodoreTeach]

I support everything you say, the only thing I disagree with is your bias.

I think if all are equally investigated and prosecuted, irrespective of race or religious claim, it would solve a lot of the problems. In my opinion, MI6, CIA and Mossad have plenty to answer for. The KGB/FSB and Communist crimes were wicked, but I doubt these would have got to where they are without Western complicity. China even moreso. Definitely not in favour of genociding anyone, Israelis or Palestinians.

While Muslim peoples can be quite savage, I believe a lot of this is directed toward the West by the secret services - if these were held to account, a good fraction of terrorism would evaporate.

 

[ZNP]

I think if all are equally investigated and prosecuted, irrespective of race or religious claim, it would solve a lot of the problems. In my opinion, MI6, CIA and Mossad have plenty to answer for. The KGB/FSB and Communist crimes were wicked, but I doubt these would have got to where they are without Western complicity. China even moreso. Definitely not in favour of genociding anyone, Israelis or Palestinians.

While Muslim peoples can be quite savage, I believe a lot of this is directed toward the West by the secret services - if these were held to account, a good fraction of terrorism would evaporate.

Yes, and this will never happen until after Armageddon. Jesus Christ is the only savior given to man. All judgment has been given to Him, not us. At the various trials I want my witness to be that I prayed for their salvation and I spoke the truth to them to repent and turn to Jesus.

 

[ZNP]

Amen, that is why this is so troubling.

Many pastors (those who follow covenant theology, the real biblical teaching) now are talking about how dispensationalism has

created apathy towards evil/active support of evil .... another master stroke by the father of lies.

Even those who agree Israel is secular nation, still attribute its existence to a miracle..... "born in a day" they shout!!

I have created a thread "State your position on Israel and current events in the Middle East" it is in the Miscellaneous section. I wanted to find out if you are right about this or if this is just another reason to ignore everything you confidently assure us is true. So far 100% of the respondents to the poll are not full blown Zionists.