State your position on Israel and current events in the Middle East

[Hermit43725]

Here's one, in this very thread, copied below. "To do whatever it takes". The state of Israel has been using agents such as Epstein, involved in the rape of children, in order to achieve its political aims via blackmail. How depraved must one be to consider the rape of children to be justified for any reason? If one does consider the rape of children to be Satanic, why the lies by you, @ZNP, about HeIsHere and myself? While I realise posters such as Tourist likely didn't even conceive of the rape and murder of children in such statements as "to do whatever it takes", such Satanic behaviour is certainly technically included in the phrase, and indeed, is what the state of Israel has been and is engaged in, in order to maintain its power.

Good to see Blood libel never goes out of style.

Tell me NeedsTeaching, I take it you were against Sherman's March, the bombing of Dresden, and the Unconditional Surrenders of the South and (mostly) Japan?

 

[CommodoreTeach]

Good to see Blood libel never goes out of style.

Tell me NeedsTeaching, I take it you were against Sherman's March, the bombing of Dresden, and the Unconditional Surrenders of the South and (mostly) Japan?

Here's another one who accuses me of "Blood libel" (whatever that is) instead of universally condemning child-rape, @ZNP. And whatever the former, I reckon pedophilia is much, much worse. It seems some truly will support Israel in whatever Satanic practices it engages in. I await your apology.

 

[ZNP]

Here's one, in this very thread, copied below. "To do whatever it takes". The state of Israel has been using agents such as Epstein, involved in the rape of children, in order to achieve its political aims via blackmail. How depraved must one be to consider the rape of children to be justified for any reason? If one does consider the rape of children to be Satanic, why the lies by you, @ZNP, about HeIsHere and myself? While I realise posters such as Tourist likely didn't even conceive of the rape and murder of children in such statements as "to do whatever it takes", such Satanic behaviour is certainly technically included in the phrase, and indeed, is what the state of Israel has been and is engaged in, in order to maintain its power.

Wow, you have got to be a giant fool. There is not a single person who has filled out the poll who does not agree that Israel are sinners. No one, 0%, are ignoring the sins or saying those sins do not need to be prosecuted or investigated.

 

[Hermit43725]

Here's another one who won't universally condemn child-rape, @ZNP. It seems some truly will support Israel in whatever Satanic practices it engages in. I await your apology.

Shorter "CommodoreNeedstoTeach" "Look, he won't condemn my favorite activity!"
Edit: Like I said above, all they have is projection and ignorance.

 

[CommodoreTeach]

Shorter "CommodoreNeedstoTeach" "Look, he won't condemn my favorite activity!"

Given this is not a subject to be joked about, and you've made false accusations and light of such serious crimes, you've gone on ignore.

 

[ZNP]

Here's another one who accuses me of "Blood libel" (whatever that is) instead of universally condemning child-rape, @ZNP. And whatever the former, I reckon pedophilia is much, much worse. It seems some truly will support Israel in whatever Satanic practices it engages in. I await your apology.

This is a lie, everyone condemns this. The poll above proves that you are a liar. Either you are spreading lies as a useful idiot or you are doing it intentionally.

 

[Hermit43725]

Given this is not a subject to be joked about, and you've made false accusations and light of such serious crimes, you've gone on ignore.

Shorter "Needs to teach" I can't handle being accused of things that I accuse others of without evidence."

 

[ZNP]

Given this is not a subject to be joked about, and you've made false accusations and light of such serious crimes, you've gone on ignore.

You are the one who has made false accusations.

Has the LA police department committed crimes? Yes.

Does this mean we should do away with the LA Police department keeping the residents safe? No.

The fact that I want the police to continue to do their job does not in any way mean I don't also want the criminals in the police department to be prosecuted. Nor does it mean I am overlooking those crimes or am unaware of them. In the poll people were given two different options to say that Israel could do no wrong and no one has done that. Yet you keep claiming they are. You are the liar.

 

[CommodoreTeach]

This is a lie, everyone condemns this. The poll above proves that you are a liar. Either you are spreading lies as a useful idiot or you are doing it intentionally.

No, it proves you are the liar, ZNP. You stated that "100% of those who have not responded are not full blown Zionist who believe the Jews can do no wrong". Yet I quoted to you one poster stating "to do whatever it takes" (when Israel has been engaging agents such as Epstein who was involved in pedophilia), and another who instead of condemning pedophilia and Israel's use of this Satanic practice to further its objectives (using blackmail), accuses me of blood libel for mentioning it.

This is exactly what I and many other posters mean, and your lie has been exposed in less than 2 pages. Either you, @ZNP, are spreading lies as a useful idiot, or are doing it intentionally. I don't need to engage on this matter further, as it has been settled.

 

[Hermit43725]

No, it proves you are the liar, ZNP. You stated that "100% of those who have not responded are not full blown Zionist who believe the Jews can do no wrong". Yet I quoted to you one poster stating "to do whatever it takes" (when Israel has been engaging agents such as Epstein who was involved in pedophilia), and another who instead of condemning pedophilia and Israel's use of this Satanic practice to further its objectives (using blackmail), accuses me of blood libel for mentioning it.

This is exactly what I and many other posters mean, and your lie has been exposed in less than 2 pages. Either you, @ZNP, are spreading lies as a useful idiot, or are doing it intentionally. I don't need to engage on this matter further, as it has been settled.

Good to know that CommodoreTeach is unhappy that the South freed their slaves. Not surprising that he's sad that the Geman controlled camps in Europe were closed down.

Using his logic of course.

Like I said, all they have is lies and projection.

 

[ZNP]

No, it proves you are the liar, ZNP. You stated that "100% of those who have not responded are not full blown Zionist who believe the Jews can do no wrong".

In Post #23 I said "There is not a single person who has filled out the poll who does not agree that Israel are sinners. No one, 0%, are ignoring the sins or saying those sins do not need to be prosecuted or investigated." I have not talked about those who have not filled out the poll, only those who have. So far 0% identify as full blown Zionists.

You have misquoted me intentionally. That is libel.

Yet I quoted to you one poster stating "to do whatever it takes" (when Israel has been engaging agents such as Epstein who was involved in pedophilia), and another who instead of condemning pedophilia and Israel's use of this Satanic practice to further its objectives (using blackmail), accuses me of blood libel for mentioning it.

Any fool can read the context referring to defend themselves from an attacker. No one has justified pedophilia, no one has justified Epstein Island. You again put words into people's mouth that they never said. This is another form of deceit.

This is exactly what I and many other posters mean, and your lie has been exposed in less than 2 pages. Either you, @ZNP, are spreading lies as a useful idiot, or are doing it intentionally. I don't need to engage on this matter further, as it has been settled.

This thread is a poll where everyone is permitted to state their position on Israel. Not a single person has stated that their position is that Israel can do no wrong. As terrible as Epstein Island is, perhaps 1,000 people went there (I don't know the exact number but I think it is less than that). These people are not simply Americans, there are other nationalities as well. Still, that is 0.000003% of the US population. The fact that we have people in the US guilty of this crime does not mean every single person in the country is, doesn't even mean that 1% are. You are not the judge, Jesus Christ is. We condemn sin, but it is the Lord's place to condemn the sinners, not yours. For you to try and do that is to usurp the Lord's authority. It is rebellion against God and against the Lord Jesus Christ.

In fact the first post makes it clear that if you come on this thread you are agreeing to do that. So then, what is your stance on Israel?

 

[JaumeJ]

My position on the Israel today is perfectly described in the Book, Revelation, or for others, the Apocalypse. It is there for all to know.

We are to beware of those who say they are Jews, but are a synagogue of Satan, from Revelation.

 

[Daisy2]

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We are to beware of those who say they are Jews, but are a synagogue of Satan, from Revelation.

The problem is that there are many politicians around the world that say they are jews but i think are not and have nothing to do with Israel. In the last days who do you think will persecute us? It's unlikely to be isreal for they have a sword at their throat by all those surrounding nations. Its even more curious the Muslims are saying they are the true desendents and the real jews.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

In the other threads a lot of insults have been hurled at different people and this is because the terms are not defined and people are being falsely labeled.

I voted other but maybe should have voted number 2. I believe the Jews are God's chosen people and Israel is the apple of God's eye because of what the Bible says. No I don't think everything Israel does is right but 1. Israel is the only democracy in the ME they are our allies. 2. Hamas are terrorists, America has labeled them terrorists, they are not our allies. Do I trust a terrorists word? Do I believe their stats when it comes to the dead over Israel? Hardly. I don't believe they are telling the truth. 3. The people who claim to be Christians here and have so much to say against Israel, I would if they would put their money where their motor mouths are and go live in Gaza or a Muslim majority country. Especially the women. Spend two years there and two in Israel, come back and tell which place had more freedom of speech, religion, or any personal freedom for that matter.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

I am a friend of Israel, but I think they have gone too far with all the killing in Gaza.

Not to start an argument, but that information comes from Hamas, who are terrorists. They have already been caught showing a picture of a child who actually has a disease. Maybe want to dig a little deeper on those stats.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Good to see Blood libel never goes out of style.

Tell me NeedsTeaching, I take it you were against Sherman's March, the bombing of Dresden, and the Unconditional Surrenders of the South and (mostly) Japan?

Oh red car guy doesn't need proof. He's on the other side where Israel can never do any good. The fact that there is absolutely no proof what so ever of what he's says is irrelevant to him.

 

[ZNP]

Oh red car guy doesn't need proof. He's on the other side where Israel can never do any good. The fact that there is absolutely no proof what so ever of what he's says is irrelevant to him.

Red car guy visited here and so far no one on the poll has chosen #3, nor did he pick other and explain his position, so what gives with that? What is he hiding?

 

[Lynx]

In the other threads a lot of insults have been hurled at different people and this is because the terms are not defined and people are being falsely labeled.

Therefore you post on this thread with the understanding that you can be asked to state your position, and that once you have given yourself a label anyone trying to assign a different label to you will be guilty of deceit.

I am going to make a short list of possible labels in a poll. The poll will be able to put to rest some assertions about what the general attitude is of people on this forum and thread. However, if none of the labels apply to you then choose other and define your own label to us in a post. Be ready to defend your position as that is the point of this thread.

I have numbered these so that you can simply say which number you are.

Well you asked...

#5. I have a life.

Granted, we are christians. Granted, Israel is God's chosen people. Granted, Israel factors heavily into end-time prophecy. Granted, we should probably keep an eye on what they are doing.

But I have already have a life of my own, so I neither need nor have the time to dig so deep as some people do and try to extrapolate so heavily. Some people really need to get themselves a life.

I don't pay as close attention as some people seem to for the same reason I don't care as much about the royal family as some people care. It's not my business and I have other business of my own to attend to.

 

[Tall_Timbers]

Not to start an argument, but that information comes from Hamas, who are terrorists. They have already been caught showing a picture of a child who actually has a disease. Maybe want to dig a little deeper on those stats.

Yep. As far as the war in Gaza goes, the only fault I find with Israel is they're allowing their enemies to be fed and they are being to careful with regards to not killing complicit civilians.

 

[JaumeJ]

So much for the Sermon on the Mount!