The US government is killing those who smoke.

[Brasspen]

The government is preventing young people from smoking and start smoking. And this is working. According to census only the older people smoke. The younger generation will not pick up that stuff. This is all well and good but...

There is another way to do this. It only takes 3 days to be tobacco free. Just quit smoking for 3 days. What can be done is sleeping thru the worst part of the addiction. Because it only takes 3 days, it can be government funded lock-down. Voluntary lock-down. They would check in, sigh papers and be held against their will on a voluntary agreement.

What they are doing instead is letting the old people die off saving only the young.

After enough people are off the stuff, outlaw it's sale and production.
Did you know they promote and encourge the mentally ill to smoke?

 

[Billyd]

My mother smoked from age 13 to her death from heart disease at 67. She quit many times. The longest period was nine months. Most of the time it was a few days.

My father and both grandfathers smoked until they were into their forties. They quit cold turkey. My father and his brother died of cancer in their fifties. My maternal grandfather died of heart disease in his sixties, and my paternal grandfather lived into his late 80s and died of old age (he chewed tobacco after he quit smoking).

My point is quitting is easy for some, but even quitting will not guarantee good health. It is best to avoid starting.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

The government is preventing young people from smoking and start smoking. And this is working. According to census only the older people smoke. The younger generation will not pick up that stuff. This is all well and good but...

There is another way to do this. It only takes 3 days to be tobacco free. Just quit smoking for 3 days. What can be done is sleeping thru the worst part of the addiction. Because it only takes 3 days, it can be government funded lock-down. Voluntary lock-down. They would check in, sigh papers and be held against their will on a voluntary agreement.

What they are doing instead is letting the old people die off saving only the young.

After enough people are off the stuff, outlaw it's sale and production.
Did you know they promote and encourge the mentally ill to smoke?

The government approves cigarettes which have over 100 chemicals added to the Tabbaco.
The FDA approves drugs which show a semblance of pseudo scientific tests they turn in on their own new products. They all have toxic effects euphemistically call "side effects."
No, they are the actual effects.
That doesn't excuse the tobacco issue. It's just another supportive category of examples.

I didn't know they encourage mentally ill to take up smoking.
They used to provide cigarettes to soldiers I'm told. How do they get the I'll to smoke?
If I can look into that, I lol do what I can to warn young people. They are the ones who start in the vast majority.

 

[Dino246]

My mother smoked from age 13 to her death from heart disease at 67. She quit many times. The longest period was nine months. Most of the time it was a few days.

My father and both grandfathers smoked until they were into their forties. They quit cold turkey. My father and his brother died of cancer in their fifties. My maternal grandfather died of heart disease in his sixties, and my paternal grandfather lived into his late 80s and died of old age (he chewed tobacco after he quit smoking).

My point is quitting is easy for some, but even quitting will not guarantee good health. It is best to avoid starting.

I agree… and am saddened to see so many young people vaping instead. Vaping is at least as dangerous as “traditional” smoking, and for the moment is socially acceptable. Perhaps we need to normalize the dismissal of both as dangerous and foolish so that people don’t start, and those who have are socially pressured to get help to stop.

 

[JohnDB]

There is another way to do this. It only takes 3 days to be tobacco free. Just quit smoking for 3 days. What can be done is sleeping thru the worst part of the addiction. Because it only takes 3 days, it can be government funded lock-down. Voluntary lock-down. They would check in, sigh papers and be held against their will on a voluntary agreement.

Not true.
At a minimum 5 days is needed to wash all the nicotine from your system. It can require more time than that. It's the lowering of those levels in your system that causes the withdrawal symptoms....

High potency B vitamins can only help replace the nicotine in your nervous system.....but it requires time.

Like years of time. Even 10 years later former smokers still want a cigarette, pipe, cigar or whatever.

All of it is dependent upon the genetics of an individual. Some can put them away upon a whim and others cannot ever stop wanting one.

 

[ResidentAlien]

My mother smoked from age 13 to her death from heart disease at 67. She quit many times. The longest period was nine months. Most of the time it was a few days.

My father and both grandfathers smoked until they were into their forties. They quit cold turkey. My father and his brother died of cancer in their fifties. My maternal grandfather died of heart disease in his sixties, and my paternal grandfather lived into his late 80s and died of old age (he chewed tobacco after he quit smoking).

My point is quitting is easy for some, but even quitting will not guarantee good health. It is best to avoid starting.

I smoked for about ten years when I was younger. Quitting wasn't that difficult, it was staying quit that gave me trouble. The mental dependency can be stronger than the physical.

 

[Tall_Timbers]

What they are doing instead is letting the old people die off saving only the young.

I'm not a socialist so I don't believe it is the govmint's responsibility to be involved in what you're suggesting. A person has a right to smoke if they want to in the USA and while I'm not a smoker I support the right of others to smoke. If they want to quit and enter a facility for three days they can pay an existing facility to accommodate them.

Things aren't that simple though. Many smokers, after going three days without smoking, would go back to smoking.

It's good if fewer young people aren't smoking, but I see younger people smoking so some do. I have no idea what percentage do.

 

[Brasspen]

The government programs have done good job at preventing young people from starting. Some of them still do. I agree that quitting is not going to do any good for anyone, if they have chosen to not quit.

I spent over 1 year quitting but was able to make it. It only took me 3 days. After the 3rd day it was gone. I had no addiction anymore.

I have had doctors in the mental clinics tell me, "You should smoke, smoking is good for you. Go ahead and just smoke." I had a nurse try and push smoking on me. And I had a medical doctor order a patch for me after I told him I don't smoke, and don't want a patch. In the group homes it's mandatory that you buy cigars and have them, even if you don't smoke.

 

[AnOldLady]

Interesting discussion. I've long wondered if niacin, which is also called nicotinic acid, is related to the nicotine compound in cigarettes, one of many substances that make cigarettes so addictive. Apparently our human bodies need niacin in multiple functions in our body, including neurotransmitters, and appears to affect mental health. I heard of a study done over 50 years ago, where people demonstrating schizophrenia were given niacin and many were able to resume "normal" processing while their bodies had what it needed. It's been noticed to help depression too. And we know it has lots of other functions in the body. Back to my point, I've wondered if the need for niacin in the body, which can vary depending on our genetic makeup, explains why some people find quitting cigarettes/tobacco easier than others. Most people smoked during my younger years. I'm all for not smoking, since I lot of lot of relatives to lung cancer. And as to mental health, seems we are learning all the more about how nutrition, gut health, and a host of over controllable areas can impact the ability to maintain correct brain processes. I'd like to find how we can encourage more people to do what they can to stay well in every dimension.

 

[SomeDisciple]

The government is preventing young people from smoking and start smoking.

Yeah sorry, that never happened. Someone lied to you.

It was not "government" that did this. At no point in time did any young person care about what the government said or did about them smoking. Moreover, the government has absolutely no interest in doing this whatsoever, because the government is addicted to the tax revenues.

If there was a reduction in youth smoking it was because of the popularization of vaping; which the ATF and every state government scrambled to regulate; because it cut into tax revenues from cigarette sales.

After enough people are off the stuff, outlaw it's sale and production.

Are you joking? States are defying federal restrictions on marijuana with decriminalization measures, and you think they're going to outlaw cigarettes?

Did you know they promote and encourge the mentally ill to smoke?

Who? Where?

 

[Genenco]

May 20th, 2013. (I was 52) Had heatstroke at work, taken to hospital. I'd had a CHF in 2010. I was so weak and sick I didn't hardly eat, drink and no smoking at all for a week. Then I thought to myself, "Lets see how long I can stay quit"

I thought it would be a short time. May 20th, 2025 I celebrated 12 years smoke free. My miracle wasn't with mighty thunder or a whirlwind and earthquakes. It was a simple "No, I'm not going to get hooked again"

I still walk around marveling at my freedom from that addiction.

 

[gb9]

May 20th, 2013. (I was 52) Had heatstroke at work, taken to hospital. I'd had a CHF in 2010. I was so weak and sick I didn't hardly eat, drink and no smoking at all for a week. Then I thought to myself, "Lets see how long I can stay quit"

I thought it would be a short time. May 20th, 2025 I celebrated 12 years smoke free. My miracle wasn't with mighty thunder or a whirlwind and earthquakes. It was a simple "No, I'm not going to get hooked again"

I still walk around marveling at my freedom from that addiction.

praise God! good for you!

 

[Magenta]

Interesting discussion. I've long wondered if niacin, which is also called nicotinic acid, is related to the nicotine compound in cigarettes, one of many substances that make cigarettes so addictive. Apparently our human bodies need niacin in multiple functions in our body, including neurotransmitters, and appears to affect mental health. I heard of a study done over 50 years ago, where people demonstrating schizophrenia were given niacin and many were able to resume "normal" processing while their bodies had what it needed. It's been noticed to help depression too. And we know it has lots of other functions in the body. Back to my point, I've wondered if the need for niacin in the body, which can vary depending on our genetic makeup, explains why some people find quitting cigarettes/tobacco easier than others. Most people smoked during my younger years. I'm all for not smoking, since I lot of lot of relatives to lung cancer. And as to mental health, seems we are learning all the more about how nutrition, gut health, and a host of over controllable areas can impact the ability to maintain correct brain processes. I'd like to find how we can encourage more people to do what they can to stay well in every dimension.

Nicotine and niacin are not related. Niacin is part of Vitamin B (B3 more specifically.) Nicotinic acid (a form of niacin)
was originally created by oxidizing nicotine, but the two are fundamentally different in nature and function.

 

[Brasspen]

Like it's written in the book of Job. Remember the struggle and do not fight with him again.

 

[Doll]

A friend needed support attending their first AA meeting. Something at every meeting?
Coffee and smokers.

Every AA member there smoked.

One addiction traded for another.

Cigarettes were created from the start to addict the consumer. Free based Nicotine.

And now studies have shown smoking alters the brain chemistry. Which is why it is so difficult to stop.

Not surprising, tobacco companies manufacture the stop smoking supplements. Gum,patches, sublingual melts.

Still getting the Nic fix,just not as vapor in the lungs. .now,it's direct to the bloodstream.


RJ Reynolds and other manufacturers are serial killers.
Billionaire serial killers.

 

[Doll]

THE INSIDER recounts the chain of events that pitted an ordinary man against the tobacco industry and dragged two people into the fight of their lives. Academy Award-winner Al Pacino gives a powerful performance as producer Lowell Bergman and Academy Award Winner Russell Crowe co-stars as the ultimate insider, former tobacco executive Dr. Jeffrey Wigand. When Wigand is fired by his employer -- one of the largest tobacco companies in America -- he agrees to become a paid consultant for a story Bergman is working on regarding alleged unethical practices within the tobacco industry. But what begins as a temporary alliance leads to a lengthy battle for both men to save their reputations, and much, much more. As they soon find out, Corporate America will use all legal means at its disposal to save a billion-dollar-a-year habit. And as the corporate giants soon find out, Bergman and Wigand are honorable men, driven to smoke out the evidence. Also starring Christopher Plummer as anchor Mike Wallace and Gina Gershon, THE INSIDER will chill you with its cold, hard edge -- and thrill you with its unbelievable twists and turns.

 

[resto]

Young People prefer E Cigarettes, which are worse. I dont see the US Govt doing much about that. Here in Thailand E Cigs are Banned.

 

[enril]

"it's easy to quit smoking. In fact, I do it hundreds of times each day"
~Mark Twain

 

[resto]

The Biggest Problem with smoking is The Nicotine Uptake Receptors in the Smokers Brain. It can take over 90 days for cravings to go away because of live receptors. If they dont get Nicotine they die. Mental addiction will never let go of craving but they become less intense and less frequent over a year unless you experience a Miraculous Deliverance