Noahide laws and FEMA camps

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zone

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I already replied to this in the other thread. There are no FEMA concentration camps, coffins,.[/quote]









millions of them stored across the US.




For the un-cooperative citizens of the USA and the World.
Easily handled and stored, no grizzly bodies to look at, no rush to dispose of them because it's sealed. Quite convenient aren't they?

The manufacturer calls them "Vaults".



MANUFACTURER:​


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Halliburton constructs containment and prisoner camps. they currently have several contracts to build specially fitted Amtrak trains, fitted with shackles.​

the plants and stations where this is taking place in Oregon is Chinese owned.​

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few notes on PNAC - the Trotskyites that did 9-11​

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AgeofKnowledge

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Just because you copied and pasted it from a nutjob conspiracy website doesn't make it true.

It is the president, as head of the executive branch, that has the authority to declare a federal state of emergency with Congressional Oversight as per the 1976 National Emergeencies Act: Not FEMA.

The only emergency provisions in the Constitution are, "The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it" and an exemption from the privilege of a grand jury hearing for cases arising in the military when in service in a time of "public danger".

So basically if a powerful anti-American La Raza movement turns into revolution against the U.S. government and they are trying to poison the water supplies, just as an example, they can imprison the perpetrators until they bring it under control at which point they have to allow the perpetrators their Habeas Corpus writs of appeals. Oh and military personnel get the UCMJ MAYBE without the privilege of a grand jury hearing in a time of national public danger.

The 1977 International Emergency Economic Powers Act allows freezing of assets, limiting of trade, and confiscation of property during a declared emergency which we used against a couple Muslim "charities" that were collecting donations for Bin Laden in the U.S. and Iraq government interests during the Embargo and Iraq Wars.

These executive orders you're talking about are fake. Sorry you got fooled by your favorite conspiracy website but then you should learn to qualify information rather than just gobbling it down as fact and repeating it. Here's a list of all the real Excutive Orders issued by U.S. Presidents: Executive Orders Disposition Tables Index

Here we see that Bill Clinton's presidency issued 364 executive orders Executive Orders Disposition Tables They range from protecting migratory birds to seeking to ensure dangerous chemicals aren't getting into the wrong hands to a host of amendments. Many of them are temporary and have already expired. NOTICE THE NUMBERS FROM 12834 to 13197! The executive orders you claim he issued aren't real. Not only are the numbers from a different set but I read every single executive order and not one of them are what you have claimed. You're wrong.

But hey no one's perfect right? So let's see what those numbers represent shall we. Oops. They represent executive orders under John F Kenned from the 1960sd, are NOT what you claim they are, and EVERY ONE of them has been REVOKED before the 1970's ended: 1962 Executive Orders Disposition Tables

This is what I'm talking about. It's all lies and wild fantasy which nitwits swallow whole like idiots without ever bothering to even check and then run around looking stupid to educated people that do check and find out it's a pack of lies.

In reality, the President (WITH CONGRESS'S APPROVAL as per the 1976 National Emergencies Act ) can make a federal emergency declaration and empower FEMA to exercise power to deal with emergency situations within certain guidelines.

Right now, the U.S. is formally in an ongoing limited state of emergency declared by several Presidents for several reasons. A state of emergency began on January 24, 1995 with the signing of Executive Order 12947 by President Bill Clinton (and Congress as per the National Emergencies Act) to initiate a limited embargo on trade with "Terrorists Who Threaten To Disrupt the Middle East Peace Process". This "national emergency" was expanded in 1998 to include additional targets such as Osama bin Laden, and has been continued to at least 2008 by order of President George W. Bush.

There are a number of other ongoing minor limited national emergencies of this type regarding the diamond trade with Sierra Leone, etc...

Others of note are the limited embargo on certain materials to Iran and Bush's Proclamation 7463, regarding the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 which President Barack Obama extended on September 10, 2009 and again on September 10, 2010 BECAUSE OTHERWISE THEY EXPIRE WHICH THEY WILL EVENTUALLY ALL DO.

You are purveying a bunch of nonsense that isn't true.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Yes zone and I already refuted it.

DEBUNKED: Hundreds of thousands of plastic coffins

FALSE DEBUNKED CLAIM: "500,000 plastic air-tight coffins in the middle of Atlanta Georgia. Apparently the Government is expecting a Half Million people to die relatively soon, and the Atlanta Airport is a major airline traffic hub, probably the biggest in the country, which means Georgia is a prime base to conduct military operations and coordination. It is also the home of the CDC, the Center for Disease Control. I don't want to alarm anyone, but usually you don't buy 500,000 plastic coffins 'just in case something happens,' you buy them because you know something is going to happen. These air tight seal containers would be perfect to bury victims of plague or biological warfare in, wouldn't they?"

FACT: The black polypropylene products purported to be coffins are grave liners, or burial vaults, manufactured by Convington, Ga.-based Vantage Products. (In this case, they are examples of the company's Standard Air Seal model.) The use of a burial vault, which prevents the collapse of cemetery ground and protects the casket, is a common requirement when a body is interred.

The filmed lot in Madison, Ga., is a Vantage storage facility. Of the 900,000 or so in-ground burials in the U.S. each year, a small percentage of those people prearranged their own caskets and vaults--which Vanguard holds at the storage facility until the appropriate time. According to company Vice President of Operations Michael Lacey, there are approximately 50,000 vaults in storage in Madison. "It's nowhere near the quantity they talk about on the Internet," he told the local Morgan County Citizen newspaper. Furthermore, Lacey has said the company maintains detailed records of product ownership and is audited annually, to insure all vaults are accounted for.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FEMA DEATH CAMPS. THAT'S ALL IN YOUR MIND. THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY TO KILL OFF AMERICAN CHRISTIANS BY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT!
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Oh how it has all unraveled. But then it was NEVER real to begin with.
 
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Your right about one thing AOK
usually you don't buy 500,000 plastic coffins 'just in case something happens,' you buy them because you know something is going to happen.
Wonder what their up to?
HMMM.................
Do you remember the Emergence of Ebola virus disease in 1976 in Zaire and the Sudan this was the first testing grounds for the disease it is most certainly a man made strain. With the disease control center being ever so convieniently located as you have stated it stands to reason that preventitive measures could be taken for such an event IF IT WERE TO TAKE PLACE.
Perhaps this is more than longsightedness prevention perhaps not
Guess where the only Known strain of it is kept.
What's the current unemployment rate right now compared to 20 years ago?
Whats the current welfare rate now compared to 20 years ago?
How many more policeman/Homeland security etc. are their now compared to 20 years ago?
Do you see the implications of my questions as they pertain to the social and economical situation America now faces with regards to the ever widening gap between the haves and the have nots.
Can you also see how the percieved security needs of the future will dictate that a policy of a more totalitarian style state will have to be implemented under the guise of maintaining Authority and prevention of Lawlessness which most assuredly will occur due to the ever widening gap.

Food for thought
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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They aren't up to anything because the government does NOT have 500,000 plastic coffins. The whacko internet claim was already debunked. You can read right?

DEBUNKED: Hundreds of thousands of plastic coffins

FALSE DEBUNKED CLAIM: "500,000 plastic air-tight coffins in the middle of Atlanta Georgia. Apparently the Government is expecting a Half Million people to die relatively soon, and the Atlanta Airport is a major airline traffic hub, probably the biggest in the country, which means Georgia is a prime base to conduct military operations and coordination. It is also the home of the CDC, the Center for Disease Control. I don't want to alarm anyone, but usually you don't buy 500,000 plastic coffins 'just in case something happens,' you buy them because you know something is going to happen. These air tight seal containers would be perfect to bury victims of plague or biological warfare in, wouldn't they?"

FACT: The black polypropylene products purported to be coffins are grave liners, or burial vaults, manufactured by Convington, Ga.-based Vantage Products. (In this case, they are examples of the company's Standard Air Seal model.) The use of a burial vault, which prevents the collapse of cemetery ground and protects the casket, is a common requirement when a body is interred.

The filmed lot in Madison, Ga., is a Vantage storage facility. Of the 900,000 or so in-ground burials in the U.S. each year, a small percentage of those people prearranged their own caskets and vaults--which Vanguard holds at the storage facility until the appropriate time. According to company Vice President of Operations Michael Lacey, there are approximately 50,000 vaults in storage in Madison. "It's nowhere near the quantity they talk about on the Internet," he told the local Morgan County Citizen newspaper. Furthermore, Lacey has said the company maintains detailed records of product ownership and is audited annually, to insure all vaults are accounted for.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FEMA DEATH CAMPS. THAT'S ALL IN YOUR MIND. THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY TO KILL OFF AMERICAN CHRISTIANS BY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT!

The rest of your post is nothing more than paranoid ramblings.

Your right about one thing AOK
usually you don't buy 500,000 plastic coffins 'just in case something happens,' you buy them because you know something is going to happen.
Wonder what their up to?
HMMM.................
 
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Hey AOK they were your words I just higlighted them in red
umm....yeah you see NO
those aren't ramblings those are questions which you haven't answered!
Do you feel safer with all that security?
How much is it costing?
Do you think the greenback is gonna stay the worlds leading currency for much longer?
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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You're just rambling without any credible emperical proof. And you don't read posts before rambling. If you did, you would know what I already stated regarding liberty having to be protected because over time scope creep occurs by all governemnts throughout history. This doesn't mean the Jews are coming to chop off our heads because we eat at MacDonalds. But NOOOO you just want to ramble at the mouth a bunch of ad hominem nonsense. The only conspiracy is between your ears.

Hey AOK they were your words I just higlighted them in red
umm....yeah you see NO
those aren't ramblings those are questions which you haven't answered!
Do you feel safer with all that security?
How much is it costing?
Do you think the greenback is gonna stay the worlds leading currency for much longer?
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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You threw a red herring not me. I simply responded to your red herring. This thread is about Noahide laws and FEMA (concentration) camps and the ridiculous theory that the U.S. government (a free democracy) is getting ready to imprison all the Christians and cut off our heads on say so of the Jews.

Maybe you should take the time to read what the thread is about before you post in it next time instead of having the audacity to question my Christianity because I pointed that out to you. I have plenty of compassion. I wouldn't be in this thread correcting the nonsense if I didn't care. I'm doing YOU a favor by pointing all this out to you sister but you're not doing me any favors at all. Practice what you preach in the future.

what amazes me is your persistent attempts to throw red herrings and insulting comments and turn people's focus away from JESUS and the Bible and still have the audacity to call yourself Christian.

All death is terrible and unnecessary for JESUS CHRIST offers life.

calling genocide or mass slaughter of any people "a historical footnote" shows a harden heart the speaks prideful and deceitful words. Its not about numbers, its about lives and God's life saving plan of Salvation through Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

I'm at planning right now and I don't remember what video you are referring to, since the filter does not allow videos to be viewed.

I think it is about Jesus being cruxified so your comment makes no sense.

Anyone who does not have Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior are among the persecuted and enslaved to their sin and darkness. they are trapped and weighed down and tortured daily.

Irony may have eluded me, but compassion seems to have eluded you.

I pray that God open the eyes of your heart and shows you how HE sees the world and not how corrupt man tries and portray the lies to keep them blind and unwilling to turn from their rebellion and learn God's Truth. His light, His love, by His grace may all experience the majesty of His presence and the conviction of their personal sins that brings forth godly sorrow and repentance so that He might forgive and heal them of their darkness and bitterness and hatred for the world, themselves and the commandments of God. In Jesus Holy Name we pray, Amen
 
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You're just rambling without any credible emperical proof. And you don't read posts before rambling. If you did, you would know what I already stated regarding liberty having to be protected because over time scope creep occurs by all governemnts throughout history. This doesn't mean the Jews are coming to chop off our heads because we eat at MacDonalds. But NOOOO you just want to ramble at the mouth a bunch of ad hominem nonsense. The only conspiracy is between your ears.
still haven't answered my questions your the red herring man not me.
BTW your the one rambling pal with ad hominems not me. That time of the month eh?
 

pickles

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Although many theories and possible evedence has been shown here.
It is not the things planned here that shpould concern us.
What one simply has to see and know is that history repeats its self.
Most of the terrible things done were born of fear, bringing knee jerk reactions that had no thought except to controll what was feared.
Hitler was one that undstood to well how to use fear to controll.
The U.S. also interned the japanese , because of fear.
It is not the planned, but the responce of those gripped by fear that is the enemy and concern
So I have to question what is the motive of those that promote many of these conspearcy stories, and see them as another manipulation using fear.
The true enemy, one can see througout this thread is fear, and satan is the master of fear.
So what are we to do?

Perfect love casts out all fear!
Thankyou Lord Jesus!!!

God bless.
pickles
 
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AnandaHya

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pardon me?

i'm not given to wild speculations ana. this is year 8 for me.

the doctors DON'T KNOW.
that would be saying that you are more knowledge about medicine and the sources of various things then doctors?

all the stuff you posted after the doctor thing, is not founded on sound research. if you can find lies within the articles you have to question the motives of the author or of their grasp of reality and facts. (when I get a chance I can point out the errors within those articles)

like I said before some of those articles are plants to make it seem those who would call attention to the antiChrist system being set up is deluded and easily dismissed because of their lack of discernment.

anyways I'll stick to what the BIBLE says will happen....

2 Thessalonians 2

The Great Apostasy

1 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ[a] had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God[c] in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? 6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He[d] who now restrains will do so until He[e] is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness

1 Timothy 4

The Great Apostasy

1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, 3 forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. 4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; 5 for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
A Good Servant of Jesus Christ


6 If you instruct the brethren in these things, you will be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished in the words of faith and of the good doctrine which you have carefully followed. 7 But reject profane and old wives’ fables, and exercise yourself toward godliness. 8 For bodily exercise profits a little, but godliness is profitable for all things, having promise of the life that now is and of that which is to come. 9 This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance. 10 For to this end we both labor and suffer reproach,[a] because we trust in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe. 11 These things command and teach.
 
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AnandaHya

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You threw a red herring not me. I simply responded to your red herring. This thread is about Noahide laws and FEMA (concentration) camps and the ridiculous theory that the U.S. government (a free democracy) is getting ready to imprison all the Christians and cut off our heads on say so of the Jews.

Maybe you should take the time to read what the thread is about before you post in it next time instead of having the audacity to question my Christianity because I pointed that out to you. I have plenty of compassion. I wouldn't be in this thread correcting the nonsense if I didn't care. I'm doing YOU a favor by pointing all this out to you sister but you're not doing me any favors at all. Practice what you preach in the future.
yes you are such an example of nominal Christainity with the whole funny farm video. its so loving, kind and patient NOT.

I've read the whole thread and I've commented upon the issues you speak of but obviously you have not followed your own advice and read the comments.
 
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AnandaHya

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I'm not sure what you are referring to? are we talking about the same thing?

Revelation 13
1 Then I[a] stood on the sand of the sea. And I saw a beast rising up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and on his horns ten crowns, and on his heads a blasphemous name. 2 Now the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were like the feet of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. The dragon gave him his power, his throne, and great authority. 3 And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed.

And all the world marveled and followed the beast. 4 So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?”

5 And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue[c] for forty-two months. 6 Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven. 7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe,[d] tongue, and nation.


8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

9 If anyone has an ear, let him hear. 10 He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.


2 Thessalonians 2:3
Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,


I thought this was the topic of conversation, would you say that is "campfire stories"?
 

zone

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that would be saying that you are more knowledge about medicine and the sources of various things then doctors?

all the stuff you posted after the doctor thing, is not founded on sound research. if you can find lies within the articles you have to question the motives of the author or of their grasp of reality and facts. (when I get a chance I can point out the errors within those articles).
In a first for journalism, the UK’s Guardian national daily newspaper has been caught falsifying their own newspaper’s public record in a bid to airbrush the facts about vaccine-caused-autism. Whilst some other media outlets have adopted the approach of ignoring the evidence and writing and broadcasting one-sided reports, this time The Guardian newspaper has been caught changing it. The Guardian removed the evidence – gone without a trace – from their online newspaper.
UK Guardian Newspaper Caught Falsifying the Historical Record of Vaccine-Caused-Autism ________________Child Health Safety_________________


This is the data the drug industry do not want you to see. Here 2 centuries of UK, USA and Australian official death statistics show conclusively and scientifically modern medicine is not responsible for and played little part in substantially improved life expectancy and survival from disease in western economies.

Vaccines Did Not Save Us – 2 Centuries of Official Statistics ________________Child Health Safety_________________
 

zone

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Although many theories and possible evedence has been shown here.
It is not the things planned here that shpould concern us.
What one simply has to see and know is that history repeats its self.
Most of the terrible things done were born of fear, bringing knee jerk reactions that had no thought except to controll what was feared.
Hitler was one that undstood to well how to use fear to controll.
The U.S. also interned the japanese , because of fear.
It is not the planned, but the responce of those gripped by fear that is the enemy and concern
So I have to question what is the motive of those that promote many of these conspearcy stories, and see them as another manipulation using fear.
The true enemy, one can see througout this thread is fear, and satan is the master of fear.
So what are we to do?

Perfect love casts out all fear!
Thankyou Lord Jesus!!!

God bless.
pickles
FEAR IS UNBELIEF.
i'm not afraid.
we're called to know of satan's devices.
 

zone

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Yes zone and I already refuted it.

DEBUNKED: Hundreds of thousands of plastic coffins

FALSE DEBUNKED CLAIM: "500,000 plastic air-tight coffins in the middle of Atlanta Georgia. Apparently the Government is expecting a Half Million people to die relatively soon, and the Atlanta Airport is a major airline traffic hub, probably the biggest in the country, which means Georgia is a prime base to conduct military operations and coordination. It is also the home of the CDC, the Center for Disease Control. I don't want to alarm anyone, but usually you don't buy 500,000 plastic coffins 'just in case something happens,' you buy them because you know something is going to happen. These air tight seal containers would be perfect to bury victims of plague or biological warfare in, wouldn't they?"

FACT: The black polypropylene products purported to be coffins are grave liners, or burial vaults, manufactured by Convington, Ga.-based Vantage Products. (In this case, they are examples of the company's Standard Air Seal model.) The use of a burial vault, which prevents the collapse of cemetery ground and protects the casket, is a common requirement when a body is interred.

The filmed lot in Madison, Ga., is a Vantage storage facility. Of the 900,000 or so in-ground burials in the U.S. each year, a small percentage of those people prearranged their own caskets and vaults--which Vanguard holds at the storage facility until the appropriate time. According to company Vice President of Operations Michael Lacey, there are approximately 50,000 vaults in storage in Madison. "It's nowhere near the quantity they talk about on the Internet," he told the local Morgan County Citizen newspaper. Furthermore, Lacey has said the company maintains detailed records of product ownership and is audited annually, to insure all vaults are accounted for.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FEMA DEATH CAMPS. THAT'S ALL IN YOUR MIND. THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY TO KILL OFF AMERICAN CHRISTIANS BY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT!
could you cite your debunking sources please?
Popular Mechanics by any chance?

I'VE BEEN TO THE RAIL SITE AOK.
SEEN IT.
 

zone

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Just because you copied and pasted it from a nutjob conspiracy website doesn't make it true.

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VETERANS FOR 9-11 TRUTH?
you're a veteran aren't you?

and the site is the Home Page of the manufacturer.

if they're not coffins, what are they AoK?

and is this a conspiracy nutjob website? survivors of the USS Liberty telling it like it was?








On June 8, 1967, US Navy intelligence ship USS Liberty was suddenly and brutally attacked on the high seas in international waters by the air and naval forces of Israel. The Israeli forces attacked with full knowledge that this was an American ship and lied about it. Survivors have been forbidden for 40 years to tell their story under oath to the American public. The USS Liberty Memorial web site tells their story and is dedicated to the memory of the 34 brave men who died.

The Attack

After surveilling USS Liberty for more than nine hours with almost hourly aircraft overflights and radar tracking, the air and naval forces of Israel attacked our ship in international waters without warning. USS Liberty was identified as a US naval ship by Israeli reconnaissance aircraft nine hours before the attack and continuously tracked by Israeli radar and aircraft thereafter. Sailing in international waters at less than five knots, with no offensive armament, our ship was not a military threat to anyone.
The Israeli forces attacked without warning and without attempting to contact us. Thirty four Americans were killed in the attack and another 174 were wounded. The ship, a $40-million dollar state-of-the-art signals intelligence platform, was later declared unsalvageable and sold for scrap.



The Cover Up

Despite a near-universal consensus that the Israeli attack was made with full knowledge that USS Liberty was a US Navy ship, the Johnson administration began an immediate cover-up of this fact. Though administration officers continued individually to characterize the attack as deliberate, the Johnson administration never sought the prosecution of the guilty parties or otherwise attempted to seek justice for the victims. They concealed and altered evidence in their effort to downplay the attack. Though they never formally accepted the Israeli explanation that it was an accident, they never pressed for a full investigation either. They simply allowed those responsible literally to get away with murder.

</SPAN>In an ongoing effort to reveal the truth about the attack, the USS Liberty Veterans Association has filed with the Secretary of the Army in the manner prescribed by law a detailed, fully documented Report of War Crimes describing the circumstances of the attack on our ship and evidence that it was a crime under international law. In accordance with international law and treaties, the United States is obligated to investigate the allegations. So far, the United States has declined even to acknowledge that the report has been filed. The full text of the report can be found at http://www.gtr5.com/evidence/warcrimes.pdf

USS Liberty Memorial
 

zone

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that would be saying that you are more knowledge about medicine and the sources of various things then doctors?

all the stuff you posted after the doctor thing, is not founded on sound research. if you can find lies within the articles you have to question the motives of the author or of their grasp of reality and facts. (when I get a chance I can point out the errors within those articles)

like I said before some of those articles are plants to make it seem those who would call attention to the antiChrist system being set up is deluded and easily dismissed because of their lack of discernment.

anyways I'll stick to what the BIBLE says will happen....ok don't forget the four horsemen.
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Vaccine Toxicity and Safety of Vaccinations: A Parent's Right to Choose
Jane Sheppard
The vaccination decision is one of the most important choices we can make as parents. However, in questioning vaccines, we open ourselves up to a great deal of criticism, disapproval and accusations of child neglect from doctors, school administrators, public health officials, family members and other parents. How, they ask, do we dare question a practice that has prevented so many devastating diseases and saved so many lives? Aren’t we putting our child and other children at risk for contracting serious diseases? After all, the government agencies designated to protect public health and most doctors say that childhood vaccines are safe.

If you dig a little deeper into the issue, you’ll find many gaps and limitations in the data and knowledge regarding vaccine safety.

Vaccines are capable of causing serious damage. Because they contain lab-altered viruses, bacteria and toxic substances, vaccines have the ability to cause mild to severe neurological and immune damage, or even death, depending on the vaccine given, the combination of vaccines given, the health of the child at the time of vaccination, and the genetic or biological factors that predispose the child to this damage. Vaccines are potent and toxic drugs that contain formaldehyde, mercury, aluminum, antibiotics and other toxic components.

Thoughtful parents are beginning to question the practice of injecting these toxic substances into the bodies of small babies and artificially manipulating their fragile immune systems during the crucial time of brain and immune development.
No Long-Term or Real-World Safety Studies

Pharmaceutical companies do safety testing of vaccines, but long term studies are not done.

The follow-up for vaccine safety testing on individuals before a vaccine is marketed is only a few weeks, or a couple of months at the most. Pharmaceutical companies and government health officials rely on post-marketing data to see if there are reports of serious side effects and reactions after the vaccine has been released and given to millions of children.

But most doctors are reluctant to report adverse reactions, and it is estimated that only between one and ten percent of vaccine reactions are ever reported.

Even so, between 12,000 and 14,000 adverse reactions (including hospitalizations, injuries and death) are reported annually to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). Since it may be difficult to establish causal relationship, many of the reported reactions are dismissed as coincidental with no further study.

The “control groups” for determining adverse reactions are not unvaccinated children. Instead, they are children that have received other vaccines. This makes it possible for the vaccine in question to appear safer than it actually may be. In addition, no adequate studies have ever been done on the real-world risk; the cumulative effect of multiple doses of numerous vaccines given in the first 5 years of life
Chronic Diseases Rise as Vaccinations Increase

Chronic diseases and disabilities in children have risen dramatically as vaccination rates for a growing number of vaccines climb higher than ever before. 25 years ago, children following the recommended vaccine schedule received 23 doses of 7 vaccines before age six. Today’s children get 48 doses of 14 vaccines by age six. With the additional recommendation for annual flu shots,
children may now get 69 doses of 16 vaccines by age 18.

Given all these vaccinations, are our children healthier? In 1983, one in 10,000 American children had autism. Currently, there is one in 150 children diagnosed with autism. One out of six American children is learning disabled. One in nine has asthma and one in 450 is diabetic. In 2003, approximately 4.4 million children were reported to have attention deficit and hyperactivity, and this chronic condition continues to increase.

Health officials continue to insist that there is no connection between vaccines and autism. However, Dr. Bernadine Healy - the former head of the National Institutes of Health and member of the Institute of Medicine - has stated that public health officials have intentionally avoided researching the vaccine-autism link because they are afraid the answer will scare the public. She acknowledges that public health officials have failed to fully research vaccines and how they may contribute to autism. Dr. Healy, along with many other doctors, thinks that there may be a subset of children who, for genetic or other reasons, are susceptible to developing autism following vaccination.

In fact, the U.S. Government has recently conceded in “vaccine court” that vaccines contributed to the development of autism in child who is now age nine. There are thousands more autism cases in line to be heard in court in which the parents believe that vaccines contributed to their children’s autism.
In June 2007, the first ever investigation to determine the difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated children was done by Generation Rescue, a parent-funded, non-profit organization. This survey of over 17,000 children compared the rates of ADHD, autism, and asthma between vaccinated and unvaccinated children.
Results showed that vaccinated U.S. children have a significantly higher risk of neurological disorders - including autism and ADHD - than unvaccinated children.
This was not a comprehensive enough study to show proof of a connection, but it certainly raises big red flags and shows the need for a national study comparing outcomes between vaccinated and unvaccinated children.
Toxicity of Vaccines

A growing number of doctors believe that a baby’s immune system is not strong enough to handle the amount of vaccines given, and their livers and kidneys are not developed enough to metabolize or excrete the toxic chemicals and heavy metals in vaccines.

Parents should know that even though mercury has finally been taken out of most childhood vaccines, there is still a significant amount of mercury in many flu shots as well as tetanus booster shots and some meningitis vaccines. Trace amounts of mercury still remain in other vaccines. Mercury is known to be one of the most toxic substances on Earth and no amount of mercury is safe, especially when injected into a baby’s small developing body.

Even though most of the recent discussion concerning toxicity of vaccines has revolved around the mercury issue, mercury is certainly not the only toxic problem with childhood vaccines. Aluminum is used as an adjuvant to boost the immune response from vaccines. Scientific evidence of the safety of injected aluminum is sorely lacking. Aluminum can accumulate in tissues and can build up to toxic levels in the bloodstream, bones, and brain. Accumulation of aluminum in the brain is known to impair neurological and mental development. Animal studies show that aluminum causes convulsions, impaired memory, and defective learning.

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