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DOCTOR STRANGELOVE said:
My statement was:
Whenever there is any scripture that COULD be describing the movement/non movement of the Earth/sun.....its ALWAYS the earth thats stationary and the sun thats moving.
You didnt agree and provided a verse. I rebutted it. No word from you since on that scripture.
Do you have any more verses or can you agree with my statement?[/QUOTE]
Hi Doc
I did present my answer (twice now). However, you have not replied to it. I will paste it again:
"When it comes to the Heavens, God is literally telling us what we can see with our own eyes or He has inspired the writer to use his own personality in conveying the message. That writer (in most of your examples) was a poetic writer and therefore wrote in poetic style using language that made sense to the readers. Just like we do today! Example we say "the sun will set in about one hour". "I will wake before the rising of the sun". Most of us believe that the sun does not move, but we STILL use that type of language. It is just normal standard language that everyone has used throughout history (including bible days).
I already gave you an example from scripture of this. I showed you where it says the "sun became hot". Do you take that literally to mean that the sun sometimes loses its heat and has to reheat itself? If you use the "sun moved" argument you would have to be consistent with the verse that says "the sun became hot". Context shows us that at certain times of the day the sun was hotter ON THE EARTH. The sun itself does not become hotter or colder during night and day. If you can accept that the sun does not actually vary in heat during night and day, maybe you can accept that when it says the sun moved, it actually means that this is what it looks like from the Earth's perspective."
I will use another example. Does the Bible use the word "Trinity" NO! Using your argument we would have to say that there is no trinity. However, the scripture is full of the evidence of a Trinity. Although it does not use the word "trinity" we can see the Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit regularly in action throughout OT and NT.
My statement was:
Whenever there is any scripture that COULD be describing the movement/non movement of the Earth/sun.....its ALWAYS the earth thats stationary and the sun thats moving.
You didnt agree and provided a verse. I rebutted it. No word from you since on that scripture.
Do you have any more verses or can you agree with my statement?[/QUOTE]
Hi Doc
I did present my answer (twice now). However, you have not replied to it. I will paste it again:
"When it comes to the Heavens, God is literally telling us what we can see with our own eyes or He has inspired the writer to use his own personality in conveying the message. That writer (in most of your examples) was a poetic writer and therefore wrote in poetic style using language that made sense to the readers. Just like we do today! Example we say "the sun will set in about one hour". "I will wake before the rising of the sun". Most of us believe that the sun does not move, but we STILL use that type of language. It is just normal standard language that everyone has used throughout history (including bible days).
I already gave you an example from scripture of this. I showed you where it says the "sun became hot". Do you take that literally to mean that the sun sometimes loses its heat and has to reheat itself? If you use the "sun moved" argument you would have to be consistent with the verse that says "the sun became hot". Context shows us that at certain times of the day the sun was hotter ON THE EARTH. The sun itself does not become hotter or colder during night and day. If you can accept that the sun does not actually vary in heat during night and day, maybe you can accept that when it says the sun moved, it actually means that this is what it looks like from the Earth's perspective."
I will use another example. Does the Bible use the word "Trinity" NO! Using your argument we would have to say that there is no trinity. However, the scripture is full of the evidence of a Trinity. Although it does not use the word "trinity" we can see the Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit regularly in action throughout OT and NT.
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