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The God of the WHOLE EARTH, not just Israel
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Wow,is correct.
When you know the truth the truth shall set you free.
Till then....
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God will have the last word:
-"For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace." Romans 6:14 NKJV
-For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, "Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them." But that no one is justified by the law in the sight of God is evident, for "the just shall live by faith." Yet the law is not of faith…..
Gal. 3:10-12
-"Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor. For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And IF you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise."
Galatians 3:24-29 NKJV
God is the word made flesh as Jesus the Christ.
https://biblehub.com/q/did_jesus_abolish_the_law.htm
"Jesus did not come to abolish the Law but to accomplish what it pointed to all along. Matthew 5:17 highlights continuity and the deeper intention behind the Law’s moral truths, while Ephesians 2:15 clarifies that the ceremonial and regulatory aspects of the Law reached their consummation on the cross, removing barriers between Jews and Gentiles. In unison, these passages underscore that God’s moral standard remains, anchored in His character, and that ritual observances find their perfect and completed meaning in the life, death, and resurrection of Christ. Through Him, the eternal purposes of the Law are fulfilled-and those who trust in Him experience not only freedom from ceremonial demands but empowerment to live a life pleasing to God."
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So you’re trying to pit verses against each other, but you only proved what I said.
““Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.”
Matthew 5:17 NKJV
“having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace,”
Ephesians 2:15 NKJV
Plus the verses that I listed above #25
-"Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor. For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as were baptizedinto Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And IF you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise."
Galatians 3:24-29 NKJV
Why do you ignore the scriptures carrying the teachings of Jesus so to reiterate your errant point that the law of God is void?
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Why do you not understand the Scriptures? We are no longer under Law, but under grace!
Be careful that you people don't beat each other up for nothing. The spirit convicts or releases each person, whether they are free or not.
The law of righteousness is not meant to be a heavy burden. One who has no feild can't tithe their grain, neither can one who has no house build railing around their roof; and there's no need to do so when the roof isn't suited for standing on in the first place.
The way to life is very simple:
Matthew 19:16—Behold, one came to him and said, “Good teacher, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?”
He said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good but one, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”
He said to him, “Which ones?”
Jesus said, “ ‘You shall not murder.’ ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ ‘You shall not steal.’ ‘You shall not offer false testimony.’ ‘Honor your father and your mother.’ And, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”
The young man said to him, “All these things I have observed from my youth. What do I still lack?”
Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have, and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”
Someone who accepts Jesus as Christ cannot die, because God is faithful to fulfill His promise with them, and they won't sin themselves into condemnation, because grace is with them.
The law of righteousness is not meant to be a heavy burden. One who has no feild can't tithe their grain, neither can one who has no house build railing around their roof; and there's no need to do so when the roof isn't suited for standing on in the first place.
The way to life is very simple:
Matthew 19:16—Behold, one came to him and said, “Good teacher, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?”
He said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good but one, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”
He said to him, “Which ones?”
Jesus said, “ ‘You shall not murder.’ ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ ‘You shall not steal.’ ‘You shall not offer false testimony.’ ‘Honor your father and your mother.’ And, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”
The young man said to him, “All these things I have observed from my youth. What do I still lack?”
Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have, and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”
Someone who accepts Jesus as Christ cannot die, because God is faithful to fulfill His promise with them, and they won't sin themselves into condemnation, because grace is with them.
It is impossible to please God without faith, and doing the law is not out of faith
But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Hebrews 11:6
For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. Galatians 3:10-12
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Which is exactly what I was saying. I didn’t say abolish, I said He fulfilled it having nailed it to the cross. We are no longer under a Tutor/ the Law. This is what God said.
There is a gigantic difference in "under Law" and "upholding Law"
under Law brings out guilt and pride to ride on us to be independent from the true God of the risen Jesus for me at least.
Romans 3 explains there upholding the Law as good, as. Romans 7 explains what under Law doesThen there is David in Psalms 1:1-4 that explains upholding Law, thanks
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To uphold the law means you’re under the law. But we’re NOT under the law, thankfully!!
“having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is,the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace,”
Ephesians 2:15 NKJV
-Don’t think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I didn’t come to -destroy but to fulfill. Matt. 5:17
-The law and the prophets were until John…. 16:16-17
-"For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace." Romans 6:14 NKJV
-we are justified by faith in Christ Jesus, not by works of the law, for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified. Gal. 2:16
I can go on and on with verses in the NC.
If you'd read the law, you'll see that we in Christ naturally fulfill more of it than we conciously take note of. Apart from the ones expicitly meant for observation in the Holy land, about which moses wrote:
"Know this day—for I don’t speak with your children who have not known, and who have not seen the chastisement of the LORD your God, his greatness, his mighty hand, his outstretched arm, his signs, and his works, which he did in the middle of Egypt to Pharaoh the king of Egypt, and to all his land; and what he did to the army of Egypt, to their horses, and to their chariots; how he made the water of the Red Sea to overflow them as they pursued you, and how the LORD has destroyed them to this day; and what he did to you in the wilderness until you came to this place; and what he did to Dathan and Abiram, the sons of Eliab, the son of Reuben—how the earth opened its mouth and swallowed them up, with their households, their tents, and every living thing that followed them, in the middle of all Israel; but your eyes have seen all of the LORD’s great work which he did.
Therefore you shall keep the entire commandment which I command you today, that you may be strong, and go in and possess the land that you go over to possess" (Deut 11:2)
The law is all about loving your neighbor as yourself, being diligent to care for your livestock & servants, and loving God with all your heart. Therefore the law is worthy to be upheld, but the leter of it shall not be abused by men to burden their neighbor.
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I’m familiar with the OT history, and thanks be to our Messiah we are no longer under the Law.
-Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it written, cursed is everyone who hangs on the tree). Gal. 3:13
-What purpose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgression, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made…..Gal. 3:19