What's your take on Gaza? Is Israel doing everything right?

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CommodoreTeach said:
Because Zionists use the tactic of collectively lying to try establish a false narrative.
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I have created a thread "State your position on Israel and current events in the Middle East" it is in the Miscellaneous section. I wanted to find out if you are right about the fact that we have Zionists on this thread or in this forum or if this is just another reason to ignore everything you confidently assure us is true. So far 100% of the respondents to the poll are not full blown Zionists.
 
ZNP said:
I have created a thread "State your position on Israel and current events in the Middle East" it is in the Miscellaneous section. I wanted to find out if you are right about the fact that we have Zionists on this thread or in this forum or if this is just another reason to ignore everything you confidently assure us is true. So far 100% of the respondents to the poll are not full blown Zionists.
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I disproved this in less than 2 pages. If you think that someone who won't condemn Israel for its use of pedophiles to further its goals is not a "full blown Zionist" (but instead accuses me of blood libel for mentioning it), I don't know what is.
 
CommodoreTeach said:
I disproved this in less than 2 pages. If you think that someone who won't condemn Israel for its use of pedophiles to further its goals is not a "full blown Zionist" (but instead accuses me of blood libel for mentioning it), I don't know what is.
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You lied, you said I said "100% of those who had not responded". I didn't I said "100% of respondents". If you had filled out the poll you would have seen everyone had two opportunities to say what you are saying they say and no one did, not one.
 
ZNP said:
You lied, you said I said "100% of those who had not responded". I didn't I said "100% of respondents". If you had filled out the poll you would have seen everyone had two opportunities to say what you are saying they say and no one did, not one.
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No, you lied. You think someone who thinks it's okay to employ blackmail pedophilia for the benefit of the modern state of Israel is not 1000% Zionist? Only the most wicked and cursed of all perverts would justify such child abuse for any reason, and there are plenty in that group who wouldn't or haven't condemned it for the state of Israel's sake.

Of course a Zionist is not going to admit he's 100% Zionist. Look at you. I haven't found a single difference in method between you and a Zionist zealot, yet you claim not to be a Zionist at all. And I still haven't heard your statement condemning the modern state of Israel's pedophilia blackmail operation through Jeffrey Epstein. Until you do, my assumption is going to be that you're one of those 1000% Zionists I'm talking about. Because who in their right mind, and even most of those who are not, can't condemn pedophilia? It's Satanic.
 
CommodoreTeach said:
No, you lied. You think someone who thinks it's okay to employ blackmail pedophilia for the benefit of the modern state of Israel is not 1000% Zionist? Only the most wicked and cursed of all perverts would justify such child abuse for any reason, and there are plenty in that group who wouldn't or haven't condemned it for the state of Israel's sake.
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I must have missed that post, who said it is OK to employ blackmail pedophilia for the modern state of Israel?

CommodoreTeach said:
Of course a Zionist is not going to admit he's 100% Zionist. Look at you. I haven't found a single difference in method between you and a Zionist zealot, yet you claim not to be a Zionist at all. And I still haven't heard your statement condemning the modern state of Israel's pedophilia blackmail operation through Jeffrey Epstein. Until you do, my assumption is going to be that you're one of those 1000% Zionists I'm talking about. Because who in their right mind, and even most of those who are not, can't condemn pedophilia? It's Satanic.
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You haven't heard me condemn the modern state of Israel's pedophilia blackmail operation because you have not provided any evidence that this has been proven in a court of law.

You claim it is true, but that could simply be slander on your part. I have no first hand knowledge of this and therefore I need to see this proven in a court of law.
 
ZNP said:
I must have missed that post, who said it is OK to employ blackmail pedophilia for the modern state of Israel?



You haven't heard me condemn the modern state of Israel's pedophilia blackmail operation because you have not provided any evidence that this has been proven in a court of law.

You claim it is true, but that could simply be slander on your part. I have no first hand knowledge of this and therefore I need to see this proven in a court of law.
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LOL, what I know is the standard.
 
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Im all for the Jews and Israel, but I dont believe the current PM is doing Israel any good…not anyone else either, for that matter.
 
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1. Do not buy into too much media because both sides will lie and try and extend there points.
2. No one can deny the extensive destruction and killing that has been done. G-d condones this both in Judaism and in the New Testament.
3. The real answer is that Zionism is wrong for both Jews and Christians. Even in Jewish texts, they have an oath not to take the land by force but Atheistic Jews (who were tired of pogroms in Europe) pushed to make a "State of Israel" with the agenda to eliminate G-d and the Jewish people. So there is nothing good about this. Jesus speaks about not living by the sword, turning the cheek and so forth.
4. Psalms endless shows us to be like David and to depend and trust in G-d.

In short, there is a lot to be said but you should pray for Jews to be safe, for innocent Gazans to be safe and for Jesus to come soon, because sadly this will only get worse as the Zionist have gone too far. This State is completely Atheistic and is not in line with any Jewish or Christian Doctrine and is truly unnecessary murder so do not get trapped in the Christian Zionist ideology. We are to pray and be defend but never attack and murder. This is never a good testimony for G-d's people.
 
Mikael156 said:
1. Do not buy into too much media because both sides will lie and try and extend there points.
2. No one can deny the extensive destruction and killing that has been done. G-d condones this both in Judaism and in the New Testament.
3. The real answer is that Zionism is wrong for both Jews and Christians. Even in Jewish texts, they have an oath not to take the land by force but Atheistic Jews (who were tired of pogroms in Europe) pushed to make a "State of Israel" with the agenda to eliminate G-d and the Jewish people. So there is nothing good about this. Jesus speaks about not living by the sword, turning the cheek and so forth.
4. Psalms endless shows us to be like David and to depend and trust in G-d.

In short, there is a lot to be said but you should pray for Jews to be safe, for innocent Gazans to be safe and for Jesus to come soon, because sadly this will only get worse as the Zionist have gone too far. This State is completely Atheistic and is not in line with any Jewish or Christian Doctrine and is truly unnecessary murder so do not get trapped in the Christian Zionist ideology. We are to pray and be defend but never attack and murder. This is never a good testimony for G-d's people.
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Yeah, according to the Bible, it will get worse for Israel. This will makes them vulnerable to people like the antichrist. I wish they would just turn to God already who longs to bless them, but nope! They are going to learn this the hard way.

I don't know much about Christian Zionism. Are they going around attacking and murdering? Who exactly are they doing that to???


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2ndTimeIsTheCharm said:
Yeah, according to the Bible, it will get worse for Israel. This will makes them vulnerable to people like the antichrist. I wish they would just turn to God already who longs to bless them, but nope! They are going to learn this the hard way.

I don't know much about Christian Zionism. Are they going around attacking and murdering? Who exactly are they doing that to???


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2ndTimeIsTheCharm said:
Yeah, according to the Bible, it will get worse for Israel. This will makes them vulnerable to people like the antichrist. I wish they would just turn to God already who longs to bless them, but nope! They are going to learn this the hard way.

I don't know much about Christian Zionism. Are they going around attacking and murdering? Who exactly are they doing that to???


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Thanks for replying. We must always remember, the term Jews or Israel today has many groups within that. So the Zionist/Atheist Jews who created the state are the culprit for this whole disaster. We must pray heavily for all Jews but the ones who fight against Zionism (which is a good chunk of the Orthodox world) is very much for G-d and against this war. Plus, do not think it is so easy, there is much history and on a spiritual level they have very high fiery souls (as Paul says, we are dealing with high spiritual concepts here).

As for Christian Zionism, it is very unfortunate but they are not only in support of this war (which in G-d's eyes makes them liable spiritually) but even physically they are heavy funders for this. A great example is John Hagee and his group of followers who are Pro-Israel and Pro-Destruction of Gaza and even right out say very sad things against muslims. This is not at all a route of Jesus...we do not side with persecutions of anyone rather peace and accepting affliction if necessary.

There is more to the story if you'd like to know but hopefully this sums it up.
 
israel has been oppressed for years and years, the old testament is just constant oppression of other nation to Israel but they are Gods natural people. Jesus was an israeli man.
 
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ZNP said:

Israeli media: Netanyahu to urge 'full conquest' of Gaza

If Israel is going to be held accountable for the food that is given as aid not being fairly distributed then by all means get the military into Gaza to distribute the food.
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Whatever you think, don’t believe the rhetoric coming from these biased news agencies (fake news, if you can call them news(?)). Most Muslims teach their kids to hate all Jews.
I’ve read where Hamas confiscates distributed food in Gaza to give to their own underground troops leaving Gazans without enough food. They don’t care about people in Gaza!
 
Prycejosh1987 said:
israel has been oppressed for years and years, the old testament is just constant oppression of other nation to Israel but they are Gods natural people. Jesus was an israeli man.
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God’s people are those who do His will, the remnant/ Christians. There is neither Jew nor Greek (non-Jew), but we are one in Christ = God’s people.
 
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candycane7 said:
The Elam prophecy is also still open.

In my opinion the iran attack didn't accomplish much. Iran is still working on the bomb it's only a matter of time.

What bothers me a bit is that there's no christian ministry (at least that I know of) which discusses any mistakes made by

the IDF. I cannot imagine that everything on the media is 100% made up.

According to the channels which I know everything is honkey dorey in Gaza and the people are fat and lack absolutely nothing.

I find this a bit hard to believe.
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I never heard everything is good in Gaza!?!
What I did hear is that the proxy group, Hamas, was stealing food from the people, and would not allow the Gazians to leave.
 
candycane7 said:
Hi,

to me the whole issue is frustrating. Everybody says something different.


According to the "world" Israel is just terrible and they are committing crimes in Gaza all the time.

I'm not really buying that.

But according to jewish christians, normal christians and also normal jews who report on Israel

it's ALL totally made up and Israel is doing everything right. I'm not sure I buy that either.

I also don't really trust Netanyahu. He has an evil presence in my opinion. He also used to support

hamas financially in the past, which is also a highly questionable practice.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/


What do you think?

I could imagine that many Israelis have also developed such a hatred for Gazans (can anyone really blame them?)

that maybe they are really committing crimes. I hope that's not the case but I can imagine it.


Anyway,

after seeing the vid of the starving Israeli I am furious again. These bastards deserve to be smoked out, if you ask me.

No mercy for these hamas animals! I hope that Israel gets every single one of them.
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Everyone wants Israel to be tougher.
 
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