THE DAY OF THE LORD COMETH AS A THIEF IN THE NIGHT

[Randy4u2c]

Rev 3:3, “If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come upon thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.”
Rev 16:15, “Behold I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame."
I Thes 5:2-3, “For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they say, peace and safety, then sudden destruction cometh upon them.”

Why does Jesus give this warning? Many are misled that Jesus can appear at any moment to gather them together prior to the tribulation of Antichrist (Satan.) They are not taught that Satan will come first, BEFORE Jesus, claiming to be God, II Thes 2:3-4. When Satan (the dragon) comes, he will do great wonders and miracles to deceive the people into worshiping him convincing them he is God, Rev 13:11-14. If you are not aware that Satan comes first, you are ripe for deception and may fall away from the true God in error.

So why does Jesus warn that he will come as a thief in the night? If you think Jesus has already returned to earth, you will not be looking for his return. You will be worshiping Satan deceived into thinking he is God. Jesus returns AFTER the working of Satan II Thes 2:9. Notice that in Rev 16:12-16, when the 6th vial is poured out you see the appearance of unclean spirits and devils going out to deceive the world. This is Satan, the son of perdition, as Antichrist and his fallen angels written of in Rev 12:7-9. AFTER their appearance, Jesus warns in Rev 16:15 that he will come as a thief, (because no one is expecting him to come. They think he is already here.)

Know that Satan will come first and that God's elect will make a stand against him to expose him as an impostor, with the Holy Spirit speaking through them, Math 10:16-20. Don't let Jesus find you worshiping Satan upon his return. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth for some. due to their shame and embarrassment of allowing themselves to be deceived. Be a watchman and watch. You escape the hour of temptation simply by knowing the truth, that Satan comes first and is a phony.

 

[KeithAB]

AMEN AND AMEN.

 

[KeithAB]

All throughout the bible you will find the rapture theory, the fly away doctrine ... shown to be a lie. Ezekiel 13:20 I am against those that teach my people to fly to save their soul. Matthew 13:36-43. These are very good examples that the rapture is a lie.

15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist. 16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death. 17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake. 18But there shall not an hair of your head perish. 19 In your patience possess ye your souls.

Keep fighting the good fight

 

[Amargosa]

All throughout the bible you will find the rapture theory, the fly away doctrine ... shown to be a lie. Ezekiel 13:20 I am against those that teach my people to fly to save their soul. Matthew 13:36-43. These are very good examples that the rapture is a lie.

15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist. 16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death. 17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake. 18But there shall not an hair of your head perish. 19 In your patience possess ye your souls.

Keep fighting the good fight

1 Thessalonians 4…

The Coming of the Lord
“13 But we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about those who are asleep, that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope. 14 For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep.15 For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.”

I’ll fly away.

 

[Randy4u2c]

1 Thessalonians 4…

The Coming of the Lord
“13 But we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about those who are asleep, that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope. 14 For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep.15 For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.”

I’ll fly away.

I would wish you a nice flight but II Thes 2:1-4 says, "Now we beseech you brethren by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and by our gathering together unto him, that you be not soon shaken in mind or be troubled neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means, for that day shall NOT come, except there come a falling away FIRST, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition." The son of perdition is Satan. He is the only one already sentenced to die, Ezk 28:13-18.

Understand that Paul realized his first letter confused people and led to a false doctrine, so he wrote a second letter telling them not to be misled by his first letter and clearly explains that Christ won't return until AFTER the son of perdition, (Satan) is revealed. Why does everyone pay attention to Paul's first letter and fail to see and understand the warning in the second letter thinking they will be gone?

In Ezk 13:18-23, God clearly states that he is against those that hunt souls to make them fly yet today's pastors continue to preach this doctrine contrary to God's word. I Thes 4:17 says we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them to meet the Lord. This doesn't happen until the trump of God, which is the 7th or last trump written of in I Cor 15:50-52, when we are all changed into our spiritual bodies. Satan comes first at the 6th seal, the 6th trump and the 6th vial, hence his number 666. He will cause a very great falling away from the true God through his lies and deception. Don't fly away with the wrong Lord. Wait for the real one!

 

[Amargosa]

Understand that Paul realized his first letter confused people and led to a false doctrine, ...

From GOTQUESTIONS...

The doctrine of the rapture is a doctrine of cheer and encouragement: “Comfort one another with these words” (1 Thessalonians 4:18, NKJV). Paul writes of the rapture so that we “will not grieve like people who have no hope” (verse 13, NLT). The language is remarkably similar to Jesus’ words in John 14:1, “Do not let your heart be troubled” (NASB). The truth is that, if one trusts in Jesus as Lord and Savior, then, when Christ comes, He will take that individual to be with Him.

 

[KeithAB]

Ezekiel 13:20 Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly.
Matthew 13 Jesus explains the parable of the wheat and the tares.
36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field. 37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; 38 the field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 39 the enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. 40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. 41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42 and shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
This is the way Jesus said things were going to happen, and that is the way it is.

 

[KeithAB]

Paul writes in 1st Corinthians 15 about the timing of "The coming of The Lord"
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? 56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. 58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.

 

[KeithAB]

I could keep going with verses that tell us that Jesus is not coming pretrib, or midtrib. No He clearly states at the last trump; the 7th trump, the furthest one out. Looking forward to hearing from all of you. KeithAB

 

[Amargosa]

I could keep going with verses that tell us that Jesus is not coming pretrib, or midtrib. No He clearly states at the last trump; the 7th trump, the furthest one out. Looking forward to hearing from all of you. KeithAB

The faithful will be kept from the 7 years of tribulation.


Revelation 3:10

New International Version

10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.

in Revelation 4:1, John, representing the church, is in heaven. Then the trib starts.

 

[GRACE_ambassador]

Misled by a theory OR: Believing God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided?:

The Many Scriptural Reasons I believe God's Sound Doctrine built on His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided!:

God's Great GRACE Departure! {aka rapture}

Outline!:

"Do all things Decently And In Order!" (1 Corinthians 14:40 AV)

(1A) PEACE With God! Receiving The Holy Spirit For understanding?
(1B) 1A e-x-p-a-n-d-e-d for Clarification?

(2a) Which Bible: AV, or, any "newer modern version" will suffice?
(2b) AV And God's Bible study Rules!

(3a) God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided! - Brief Introduction...
(3b) Three "Ages" Rightly Divided! = God's Timelines?

(4) Which "Gospel" Makes Way For Which "Gospel"?
(5) GREAT Tribulation? or, tribulations/GREAT GRACE Departure!?

(6) Pre-TOJT GRACE Departure Expectations!?
(7) God's Heavenly UPlook For His Body!?

(8) Watching, Waiting, And Looking: For WHOM! or, For "signs"?
(9) God's Removal Of His Body Of CHRIST!:

(10) "Day Of CHRIST { Light }!" / Rightly Divided from {RDf}:
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \ "The Day Of The LORD [ Darkness ]!"?

(11) Confidence in death/resurrection, Or, in living/glorification!?
(12) CHRIST Will Come "Without Warning!"?

(13) The Two "Trumps" Of God, In His "Age Of GRACE"?
(14) Meeting Him "In The Air" Up To Heaven! vs U-turn (theology?)

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Back down To earth?​

(15) Preparation For [ Israel's tribulation? OR: ]

The Judgment Seat Of Christ!? (1 Corinthians 3:8-15 AV)

(16) Post Departure Deception Question?
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Conclusion = Part 17:

God's Great GRACE Departure!​

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"Wherefore Comfort one another With These Words." (1 Thessalonians 4:18 AV)

Amen.

 

[Randy4u2c]

The faithful will be kept from the 7 years of tribulation.


Revelation 3:10

New International VersionHow are you kept from the hour of temptation which is when Satan comes claiming to be God? How tempting will Satan be to you if you know he is a fake? You escape the hour temptation simply by knowing the truth, that Satan is a phony.

10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.

in Revelation 4:1, John, representing the church, is in heaven. Then the trib starts.

How are you kept from the hour of temptation which is when Satan comes claiming to be God? How tempting will Satan be to you if you know he is a fake? You escape the hour temptation simply by knowing the truth, that Satan is a phony.

John was taken to heaven in the Spirit to the Lord's day to report the things he saw and heard. He wasn't representing the church being raptured away. Another false teaching. He returned to Patmos at the end of his vision to write the book of Revelation. There were seven churches mention in Rev 2 and 3. Jesus found fault with five of them but not with Smyrna or Philadelphia because they taught who the synagogue of Satan were.

 

[God-fearing]

Rev 3:3, “If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come upon thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.”
Rev 16:15, “Behold I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame."
I Thes 5:2-3, “For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they say, peace and safety, then sudden destruction cometh upon them.”

Why does Jesus give this warning? Many are misled that Jesus can appear at any moment to gather them together prior to the tribulation of Antichrist (Satan.) They are not taught that Satan will come first, BEFORE Jesus, claiming to be God, II Thes 2:3-4. When Satan (the dragon) comes, he will do great wonders and miracles to deceive the people into worshiping him convincing them he is God, Rev 13:11-14. If you are not aware that Satan comes first, you are ripe for deception and may fall away from the true God in error.

So why does Jesus warn that he will come as a thief in the night? If you think Jesus has already returned to earth, you will not be looking for his return. You will be worshiping Satan deceived into thinking he is God. Jesus returns AFTER the working of Satan II Thes 2:9. Notice that in Rev 16:12-16, when the 6th vial is poured out you see the appearance of unclean spirits and devils going out to deceive the world. This is Satan, the son of perdition, as Antichrist and his fallen angels written of in Rev 12:7-9. AFTER their appearance, Jesus warns in Rev 16:15 that he will come as a thief, (because no one is expecting him to come. They think he is already here.)

Know that Satan will come first and that God's elect will make a stand against him to expose him as an impostor, with the Holy Spirit speaking through them, Math 10:16-20. Don't let Jesus find you worshiping Satan upon his return. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth for some. due to their shame and embarrassment of allowing themselves to be deceived. Be a watchman and watch. You escape the hour of temptation simply by knowing the truth, that Satan comes first and is a phony.

Excuse me but Jesus is not addressing believers but to the ones that dont watch. To them it will be as a thief in the night.
I believe that every true follower of Christ knows the time is at hand for his return according to the signs and seasons.
I look forward to his coming every day,

 

[God-fearing]

All throughout the bible you will find the rapture theory, the fly away doctrine ... shown to be a lie. Ezekiel 13:20 I am against those that teach my people to fly to save their soul. Matthew 13:36-43. These are very good examples that the rapture is a lie.

15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist. 16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death. 17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake. 18But there shall not an hair of your head perish. 19 In your patience possess ye your souls.

Keep fighting the good fight

Ezekiel 13:20 has nothing to do with the rapture. God description is how wild game birds are hunted in the fields.
He is speaking about false prophets robbing gladness from his people with there false witness.

 

[KeithAB]

Read it out of The King James and see what it says, it has nothing to do with hunting birds it has to do with the false teaching of the prophets of Ezekiel's time and ours.

 

[DavidLamb]

Excuse me but Jesus is not addressing believers but to the ones that dont watch. To them it will be as a thief in the night.
I believe that every true follower of Christ knows the time is at hand for his return according to the signs and seasons.
I look forward to his coming every day,

Well, in Revelation 3:3 Jesus is addressing the church at Sardis:

“1 ¶ “And to the angel of the church in Sardis write, ‘These things says He who has the seven Spirits of God and the seven stars: “I know your works, that you have a name that you are alive, but you are dead. 2 “Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die, for I have not found your works perfect before God. 3 “Remember therefore how you have received and heard; hold fast and repent. Therefore if you will not watch, I will come upon you as a thief, and you will not know what hour I will come upon you.” (Re 3:1-3 NKJV)

Revelation 16:15 is addressing one who is blessed, who watches, surely not a dec ription of a non-Christian:

““Behold, I am coming as a thief. Blessed is he who watches, and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame.”” (Re 16:15 NKJV)

As for 1 Thessalonians, the whole letter is addressed to the church at Thessalonica:

“Paul, Silvanus, and Timothy, To the church of the Thessalonians in God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.” (1Th 1:1 NKJV)

 

[Psalm1]

All throughout the bible you will find the rapture theory, the fly away doctrine ... shown to be a lie. Ezekiel 13:20 I am against those that teach my people to fly to save their soul. Matthew 13:36-43. These are very good examples that the rapture is a lie.

15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist. 16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death. 17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake. 18But there shall not an hair of your head perish. 19 In your patience possess ye your souls.

Keep fighting the good fight

Jesus taught the pretrib rapture.
I am Sorry you rebel against the king.
Sad actually.

 

[Psalm1]

I would wish you a nice flight but II Thes 2:1-4 says, "Now we beseech you brethren by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and by our gathering together unto him, that you be not soon shaken in mind or be troubled neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means, for that day shall NOT come, except there come a falling away FIRST, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition." The son of perdition is Satan. He is the only one already sentenced to die, Ezk 28:13-18.

Understand that Paul realized his first letter confused people and led to a false doctrine, so he wrote a second letter telling them not to be misled by his first letter and clearly explains that Christ won't return until AFTER the son of perdition, (Satan) is revealed. Why does everyone pay attention to Paul's first letter and fail to see and understand the warning in the second letter thinking they will be gone?

In Ezk 13:18-23, God clearly states that he is against those that hunt souls to make them fly yet today's pastors continue to preach this doctrine contrary to God's word. I Thes 4:17 says we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them to meet the Lord. This doesn't happen until the trump of God, which is the 7th or last trump written of in I Cor 15:50-52, when we are all changed into our spiritual bodies. Satan comes first at the 6th seal, the 6th trump and the 6th vial, hence his number 666. He will cause a very great falling away from the true God through his lies and deception. Don't fly away with the wrong Lord. Wait for the real one!

1) the falling away is now. We are in it.
2) the AC devil man is REVEALED pretrib.
Why do people not read what it says
3)THE last trump is done every year at the fall feasts.

Truly a pretrib rapture as you have indicated

 

[God-fearing]

Well, in Revelation 3:3 Jesus is addressing the church at Sardis:

“1 ¶ “And to the angel of the church in Sardis write, ‘These things says He who has the seven Spirits of God and the seven stars: “I know your works, that you have a name that you are alive, but you are dead. 2 “Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die, for I have not found your works perfect before God. 3 “Remember therefore how you have received and heard; hold fast and repent. Therefore if you will not watch, I will come upon you as a thief, and you will not know what hour I will come upon you.” (Re 3:1-3 NKJV)

Revelation 16:15 is addressing one who is blessed, who watches, surely not a dec ription of a non-Christian:

““Behold, I am coming as a thief. Blessed is he who watches, and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame.”” (Re 16:15 NKJV)

As for 1 Thessalonians, the whole letter is addressed to the church at Thessalonica:

“Paul, Silvanus, and Timothy, To the church of the Thessalonians in God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.” (1Th 1:1 NKJV)

And again it expresses to the ones that dont watch.....was my point. In fact addressing the church only points to a event for the church only. Where the second coming says every eye will see him. Un like a thief who would want to remain hidden.
Christ second coming comes after tribulation, and vials of wrath being poured out Paul says we are not appointed to wrath.
Not to debate the rapture theory but just seeing how one addresses these scriptures.
The second coming is Jesus coming to earth, yet Paul says there's a catching up in the clouds to be with the Lord in the air.
It just seems to me there are 2 events taking place here.

 

[GRACE_ambassador]

The second coming is Jesus coming to earth, yet Paul says there's a catching up in the clouds to be with the Lord in the air.
It just seems to me there are 2 events taking place here.

Amen. It's Well Documented In God's Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided!:

God's Great GRACE Departure! {aka rapture}

Amen.