The woman of Proverbs 31

[Falconn007]

Yes, I get what you’re saying, but you have to read things in context. And yes, in some verses, not this passage, it describes the Bride as the church. Just not this passage.

It’s just talking about the virtuous wife.

What I have heard sooooo many times is how the Virtuous wife , who can find is the question.

And Like many I fell into that carnal trap, that it has to be about a 'woman of flesh' But in growing my Spirit, the no flesh cann not enter into heaven just stops that carnal thought in it's tracks....

So the virtuous wife has to be something other than flesh and blood.

It wasn't until a heard a carnal sermon from the pulpit of man's religions, how mankind is to become in Spirit the Bride of Jesus the Christ.

Then by the Grace of God, teaching me in Spirit, that all who become "Christian of Faith" are to become this virtuous wife of Christ.

Males who are Faithful believers accept this Truth as well as faithful females, who receive this Truth in Spirit.

Their Spirit is united in ONE body and one Spirit of God, although MANY they are ONE, and they sit as Revelation states :

Revelation 14:14
And I looked and saw a white cloud, and seated on the cloud was One like the Son of Man, with a golden crown on His head and a sharp sickle in His hand.

It is not the original Jesus but those who are Christ like in Spirit, seated and ready to harvest those who are yearning for the manifestation of the Sons of God from the world of carnal flesh.

Now that makes Spiritual Truth. FEMALES who are Christian in Faith follow the footsteps er.... the foundation laid by Jesus, this path leads directly to the Father. It is a narrow path because it just needs to be the width of each following in Spirit.

There is nothing that stops FEMALES from knowing this TRUTH that FEMALES are indeed to also become the Bride of Jesus in Spirit.

I abhor the fact that many, many idiots use this and a few other passages to make females submissive to their carnal created MANURE!!!!

When the Word states for WOMAN to be quite is so that the Spirit of Jesus, that is TEACHING is heard and uninterrupted in prayer or mediation , where most of the talking to God in Spirit exist.

That woman is an outward expression from BOTH MALE and FEMALE Christina of faith in Spirit.

It is no wonder that the carnal minded stoop so low too try and vanquish this TRUTH given so freely.

In their ignorant vain attempts without shame, will try to constraint Females with their own mis-intrepretations whenever and where ever they can.

 

[Dino246]

And Like many I fell into that carnal trap, that it has to be about a 'woman of flesh'

Why do you call everything you don’t agree with “carnal”?

Do you understand that just makes you come across like a self-righteous jerk?

But in growing my Spirit

Can you cite any Scripture suggesting that one might “grow their Spirit”?

 

[TruthDefender]

What I have heard sooooo many times is how the Virtuous wife , who can find is the question.

And Like many I fell into that carnal trap, that it has to be about a 'woman of flesh' But in growing my Spirit, the no flesh cann not enter into heaven just stops that carnal thought in it's tracks....

So the virtuous wife has to be something other than flesh and blood.

It wasn't until a heard a carnal sermon from the pulpit of man's religions, how mankind is to become in Spirit the Bride of Jesus the Christ.

Then by the Grace of God, teaching me in Spirit, that all who become "Christian of Faith" are to become this virtuous wife of Christ.

Males who are Faithful believers accept this Truth as well as faithful females, who receive this Truth in Spirit.

Their Spirit is united in ONE body and one Spirit of God, although MANY they are ONE, and they sit as Revelation states :

Revelation 14:14
And I looked and saw a white cloud, and seated on the cloud was One like the Son of Man, with a golden crown on His head and a sharp sickle in His hand.

It is not the original Jesus but those who are Christ like in Spirit, seated and ready to harvest those who are yearning for the manifestation of the Sons of God from the world of carnal flesh.

Now that makes Spiritual Truth. FEMALES who are Christian in Faith follow the footsteps er.... the foundation laid by Jesus, this path leads directly to the Father. It is a narrow path because it just needs to be the width of each following in Spirit.

There is nothing that stops FEMALES from knowing this TRUTH that FEMALES are indeed to also become the Bride of Jesus in Spirit.

I abhor the fact that many, many idiots use this and a few other passages to make females submissive to their carnal created MANURE!!!!

When the Word states for WOMAN to be quite is so that the Spirit of Jesus, that is TEACHING is heard and uninterrupted in prayer or mediation , where most of the talking to God in Spirit exist.

That woman is an outward expression from BOTH MALE and FEMALE Christina of faith in Spirit.

It is no wonder that the carnal minded stoop so low too try and vanquish this TRUTH given so freely.

In their ignorant vain attempts without shame, will try to constraint Females with their own mis-intrepretations whenever and where ever they can.

Why is the question, whether this is of flesh? I’ve never heard of this twist?
The context is about the virtuous wife; she is to be this way, like a ruby among stones. This doesn’t make her a stone though, yes? If you read this in context this is what it means. These are the virtues/ qualities of a good wife…..

 

[Falconn007]

Calling your convoluted tripe “stupidity” is not banned. Are you unable to distinguish between yourself and your words?

Also, proofread your posts before committing them to the internet. Poor spelling and grammar don’t reflect well on you.

I don't need proof reading to suit your discouraging demeanor, it is in the Spirit that these Truth will be etched and become alive in those who read the post in Spirit.

It is the Holy Spirit that brings like minded people together in fellowship, I will always detour to that Truth.

Something your obviously lack.

"Poor spelling and grammar don’t reflect well on you"

I am most certainly not looking for any admiration from mankind nor a reflection from the world of man-flesh. I do not seek it nor need it.

I have close to 1 Million viewership on quora, and I do not ask for anyone's perspectives or reflections, I could careless how they feel about me.

I could monologue for hours, it still would have no effect on your adherent loneliness.

 

[Falconn007]

Why do you call everything you don’t agree with “carnal”?

Do you understand that just makes you come across like a self-righteous jerk?


Can you cite any Scripture suggesting that one might “grow their Spirit”?

I don't throw my pearls before swine... I do know however how to keep the carnal minded waiting... I'lll tell you later

 

[Falconn007]

Why is the question, whether this is of flesh? I’ve never heard of this twist?
The context is about the virtuous wife; she is to be this way, like a ruby among stones. This doesn’t make her a stone though, yes? If you read this in context this is what it means. These are the virtues/ qualities of a good wife…..

tis ... the second time you state about context, let us define that word :

Context is the surrounding circumstances, background, or environment that helps to determine the meaning of something.

Context examples include the setting of a joke as a party with friends, the historical backdrop of a novel like A Tale of Two Cities, or the situational differences between yelling "fire" in a theater versus at a bonfire.

I do not need a carnal concept like 'context' to discern what is Spiritual

Here let me be so blunt :

John 6:63
It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing.
The words that I speak to you are Spirit, and they are Life.

This is definitely a Spiritual Truth. and I do not need 'context' to explain what 'context' cannot discern in Spirit.

Which fulfills the woman of proverbs 31 , the woman is Spiritual and Life. the woman obviously can not be flesh because Jesus commanded that : John 6:63 ".....; the flesh profits nothing."

Why is the question, whether this is of flesh? I’ve never heard of this twist?

I do not follow what you are asking here ??

 

[Falconn007]

Why do you call everything you don’t agree with “carnal”?

Do you understand that just makes you come across like a self-righteous jerk?

Then I must be in great company, seeing how; Jesus Spiritually taught Paul, Paul's epistles have taught me in Spirit.
thus Jesus. the disciple Paul and myself, in accordance to your post are ........... how did you posted it ........ oh yeah, Dino246- "self-righteous jerks."

Being a self-righteous jerk in front of your ignorance is truly complement from you; Dino246 and a blessing from the Spirit, to suffer more of your infantile persecutions.

Romans 8:5
5For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.

6For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

7Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. 8So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

I surely do not want to die, as many seem to foolishly choosen by their own sheer darkness(ignorance), NOT KNOWING GOd in SPirit Truth. I mean I do not need to point fingers now, or do I !?!?!

 

[TruthDefender]

tis ... the second time you state about context, let us define that word :

Context is the surrounding circumstances, background, or environment that helps to determine the meaning of something.

Context examples include the setting of a joke as a party with friends, the historical backdrop of a novel like A Tale of Two Cities, or the situational differences between yelling "fire" in a theater versus at a bonfire.

I do not need a carnal concept like 'context' to discern what is Spiritual

Here let me be so blunt :

John 6:63
It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing.
The words that I speak to you are Spirit, and they are Life.

This is definitely a Spiritual Truth. and I do not need 'context' to explain what 'context' cannot discern in Spirit.

Which fulfills the woman of proverbs 31 , the woman is Spiritual and Life. the woman obviously can not be flesh because Jesus commanded that : John 6:63 ".....; the flesh profits nothing."

Why is the question, whether this is of flesh? I’ve never heard of this twist?

I do not follow what you are asking here ??

Ok, it’s a flyover. NP

 

[Falconn007]

Can you cite any Scripture suggesting that one might “grow their Spirit”?

SURE CAN :

Luke 2:40
And the Child grew and became strong in spirit, filled with wisdom; and the grace of God was upon Him.

witness...

Ephesians 4:115
11And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, 13till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; 14that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, 15but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ— 16from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.

1 Peter 2:2
Like newborn babies, crave pure spiritual milk, so that by it you may grow up in your salvation,

2 Peter 3:18
But grow in the Grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.

 

[Falconn007]

Ok, it’s a flyover. NP

The flyover incorporates the will not having too explain the basics of God's Word 101.

If you can not discern what is Spiritually discern, I know, it is because God has you this way, I am not about the oppose nor advocate on your behalf. I am not Jesus, but I did shared with you Jesus's Words and Jesus's teachings.

 

[TruthDefender]

The flyover incorporates the will not having too explain the basics of God's Word 101.

If you can not discern what is Spiritually discern, I know, it is because God has you this way, I am not about the oppose nor advocate on your behalf. I am not Jesus, but I did shared with you Jesus's Words and Jesus's teachings.

If you can’t understand “context” in Scripture, you need to go back to English 101. Basic knowledge needs to be met first!

 

[Falconn007]

If you can’t understand “context” in Scripture, you need to go back to English 101. Basic knowledge needs to be met first!

I did you one better I looked up your carnal context in over 47 translation, only ONE verse from two translations would dare implement it's carnal use.

Berean Standard Bible
In what context was it credited? Was it after his circumcision, or before? It was not after, but before.

Majority Standard Bible
In what context was it credited? Was it after his circumcision, or before? It was not after, but before.

And neither is a proper translation of : ἐλογίσθη (elogisthē) Strong's 3049. logizomai

3049 logízomai (the root of the English terms "logic, logical") – properly, compute, "take into account"; reckon (come to a "bottom-line"), i.e. reason to a logical conclusion (decision).

>>>> no 'context' referred too.

This is God's Word :

2 Peter 1:20
But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation,

So the carnal concept of 'context' is null and voided by Word of God

Let it simmer , it may just sink in your mind a bit.

 

[Falconn007]

you need to go back to English 101. Basic knowledge needs to be met first!

ahem .... the Word of God is written down through INSPIRATION of the Holy Spirit in ONLY the ancient Hebrew language and the ancient Greek language.

English will just make it more confusing, as grammar professors have proven English on it's own, confuses itself.

 

[TruthDefender]

I did you one better I looked up your carnal context in over 47 translation, only ONE verse from two translations would dare implement it's carnal use.

Berean Standard Bible
In what context was it credited? Was it after his circumcision, or before? It was not after, but before.

Majority Standard Bible
In what context was it credited? Was it after his circumcision, or before? It was not after, but before.

And neither is a proper translation of : ἐλογίσθη (elogisthē) Strong's 3049. logizomai

3049 logízomai (the root of the English terms "logic, logical") – properly, compute, "take into account"; reckon (come to a "bottom-line"), i.e. reason to a logical conclusion (decision).

>>>> no 'context' referred too.

This is God's Word :

2 Peter 1:20
But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation,

So the carnal concept of 'context' is null and voided by Word of God

Let it simmer , it may just sink in your mind a bit.

I’m guessing English is not your first language? You don’t look up the word “context” in Scripture to understand it.
Mind blown here!

It just means that many verses have contextual meaning amplifying what is being said in the passage. Some verses you can pull out, but others depend on the passage.

 

[TruthDefender]

ahem .... the Word of God is written down through INSPIRATION of the Holy Spirit in ONLY the ancient Hebrew language and the ancient Greek language.

English will just make it more confusing, as grammar professors have proven English on it's own, confuses itself.

We don’t need to read it in Aramaic or Hebrew to understand the meaning. English is a very rich, deep language, difficult for many; I’m a native born so NP.

 

[Dino246]

SURE CAN :

Luke 2:40
And the Child grew and became strong in spirit, filled with wisdom; and the grace of God was upon Him.

witness...

Ephesians 4:115
11And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, 13till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; 14that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, 15but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ— 16from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.

1 Peter 2:2
Like newborn babies, crave pure spiritual milk, so that by it you may grow up in your salvation,

2 Peter 3:18
But grow in the Grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.

You haven't supported your idea. These verses all say or imply growing in spirit/Spirit, not growing their spirit. They aren't the same thing.

 

[Dino246]

I did you one better I looked up your carnal context in over 47 translation, only ONE verse from two translations would dare implement it's carnal use.

You haven't ever taken instruction in how to interpret Scripture properly... have you?

I suggest you read a book on the subject. Howard Hendricks' Living by the Book is an excellent text.

 

[TruthDefender]

You haven't ever taken instruction in how to interpret Scripture properly... have you?

I suggest you read a book on the subject. Howard Hendricks' Living by the Book is an excellent text.

Books written by man have biases and slants. God’s word is pure. Just an FYI…..

 

[Dino246]

Books written by man have biases and slants. God’s word is pure. Just an FYI…..

Do you honestly think I didn't already know that?

Do you think God's word contains all the information there is?

Do you think every human book should be avoided because some are biased? Do you think you can't learn from other people?

 

[TruthDefender]

Do you honestly think I didn't already know that?

Do you think God's word contains all the information there is?

Do you think every human book should be avoided because some are biased? Do you think you can't learn from other people?

What I’m saying is that we don’t need to rely on human reasoning; they can actually mess people up by interfering with Truth. This is what Satan holds dear, telling you the opposite of Truth.