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That’s a different issue—I’m talking about Naaman, who hadn’t yet been healed—he became cleansed only when he obeyed God’s instructions.I agree but can you answer my questions above?
That’s a different issue—I’m talking about Naaman, who hadn’t yet been healed—he became cleansed only when he obeyed God’s instructions.I agree but can you answer my questions above?
Circular reasoning fallacy.You said, you accept ALL of HIS word, I for sure am not sharing my opinion but HIS word only.
As you can see, the ESV wording is different then the KJV.
Matthew 3:13-17
English Standard Version
16 And when Jesus was baptized, immediately he went up from the water, and behold, the heavens were opened to him,[a] and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and coming to rest on him;
17 and behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.”
Matthew 3:16-17
King James Version
16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
There HAS to be an answer!!
When it says, when JESUS was baptized, WENT UP STRIGHTWAY OUT OF THE WATER, do you think he did that represents being sprinkled or poured on?
There also HAS to be an anwer for why JESUS's disciples baptized in JESUS name.
HIS disciples KNEW who HE was.
John 14,
King James Version
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
How about this one, JESUS speaking and HE is alos in HEAVEN.
John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
No it's not a different issue.That’s a different issue—I’m talking about Naaman, who hadn’t yet been healed—he became cleansed only when he obeyed God’s instructions.
Think about what you just said "Don't just share scripture of what JESUS did,"
Not only what he did but what HE said. Did Jesus save you or water baptism. Water or the or the Blood?
No it's not a different issue.
That's ok if you don't want to answer.
We can leave it at that.
He became cleansed of his skin disease, what about his sins?That’s a different issue—I’m talking about Naaman, who hadn’t yet been healed—he became cleansed only when he obeyed God’s instructions.
Circular reasoning fallacy.
What does the Bible say?He became cleansed of his skin disease, what about his sins?
If that's the case why are you on this thread?My example was about receiving God’s provision, to which you are wanting to turn it into a topic about eternal security or later choices.
Because the thread is about water baptism. Not eternal security of the believer.If that's the case why are you on this thread?
Does the Bible say Naaman was cleansed of his leprosy or his sins, when he dipped in the Jordan River?You tell me
Wrong.Because the thread is about water baptism. Not eternal security of the believer.
His leprosy.Does the Bible say Naaman was cleansed of his leprosy or his sins, when he dipped in the Jordan River?
No. The thread is about water baptism being for the remission of sins. Not the eternal security of believer once they are saved. Two different topics.Wrong.
This thread us about salvation in the name of Jesus only.
Start from the beginning and see it.
There are people on here who say that if your are not baptised in the name of Jesus onky then your are not saved, YOUR SINS ARE NOT FORGIVEN.
No. The thread is about water baptism. Not eternal security of believer.
Using logical fallacies is avoiding the question. Answering them is a fool's errand.Looks more to me like you can't answer, or don't really know?
I'm just in the seed business.
I don’t care what the thread says from the beginning. I only care what the Bible says from the beginning. This conversation is going nowhere, as most online convos do, as they either veer off topic (which you did with mine concerning Naaman), or lead to heated disagreements. I’m done. Goodbye.Wrong wrong wrong.
You have not read from the beginning.
No. The thread is about water baptism being for the remission of sins. Not the eternal security of believer once they are saved. Two different topics.
Goodbye as well.I don’t care what the thread says from the beginning. I only care what the Bible says from the beginning. This conversation is going nowhere, as most online convos do, as they either veer off topic (which you did with mine concerning Naaman), or lead to heated disagreements. I’m done. Goodbye.