Does Jesus and Paul contradict each other?
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the Nicene creed was formulated when there was very low availability of a scripture for people to read, and very low ability of people to read at all, and there were many heresies growing in the church, partially owing to illiteracy and the pressures of persecution making it difficult for believers to learn and to to be taught the truth.
It is very difficult to be clear on subtle theological points when you do not have a Bible of your own to independently read and you cannot meet regularly with mature brothers and sisters for fear of death. under such circumstances it is very easy to deceive people with subtle lies.
it's in these times, that creeds were made, easy to remember without having in writing, that reinforce core principles of The Way so that when you hear someone saying things that contradict them, then, without having all the writings to compare to, you may know that you may be meeting someone who is a false teacher.
that's the purpose of creeds. Succinct, easily internalized right doctrine.
what do you even mean, "legalize" and "illegal" ??
Christianity is not a belief in which anyone can make up their own doctrines and that's fine.
Christianity is like math, not opinion. There is exactly one Truth. His name is Jesus. George isn't Christianity, and Babbette isn't Christianity. and we don't get to all imagine our own reality.
do you know what the actual definition of orthodox is, or are you just making up your own private definition of everything?
please explain exactly what you believe is incorrect about the Nicene creed and support your objections with scripture.
I would have to assume Jesus is referring to himself as Yahweh and not the one in old testament.
Evil stuff, like how he loved Abraham who was blameless and faithful in all his ways? Or how he blessed egypt and fed the world through his servant Joseph, who was despised and left for dead by his own brothers? Or how he led his people out of egypt to the promised land with great signs & wonders, feeding them with manna and commanding them a simple and righteous law? Or how he saved his people multiple times through judges, even though they rebelled & transgressed against him and served vain gods? Or how he tirelessly told his people to return to him and love righteousness & justice through his prophets as they were falling away?
There so many ideas and Concepts
Best left to the lord really,
the old testament is about blood being sacrificed in order to be saved.
The saying is, there can be no sacrifice without blood being spilt in old t was the harsh reality of mans fallen nature, not Gods, m.
Best I can tell ya.
Ah I forget lol I'll give my head a wobble, and wobble it out
It's gone now.
I once stood in a Catholic church as a kid well walked in actually and said you you shouldn't be worshipping Mary
They chucked me out
which one of them had told you that they worship Mary?
All the kids prayed to Mary use to see them do it every day lol. One of them was my boxing partner as a kid to we where good mates to
There was a huge statue of Mary in the playground and there was a catholic church attached to the school, where there was another statue of Mary at the doors entrance.
the kids would pray to the statue everyday in the play ground it was right opposite our school
Jesus is God; gentle, humble, longsuffering, kind, committed, faithful, true, merciful, graceful, and only loving. He despises wickedness, driving those who love their own gain out of his Fathers house. Whoever has seen him has seen the Father also.
there is no such thing as old/new testament.
the scripture is all one testimony of Christ.