Universal Laws of Heavenly Bodies

[JohnChingford2007]

I am actually astounded at the reasonings used on a "christian" site. Surely Christians are those whose eyes have been opened to the satanic conspiracies in this world - all designed to disprove our faith. "the whole world lies in the hands of the evil one" 1 John 5:19
"For our struggle is not against ]flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places." Eph 6:12

ie the global scheme of things is controlled by satan. Christians wake up and smell the pungent sulphur.

DO NOT believe everything you read by the so-called scientific experts. They are all part of that satanic conspiracy and are LYING through the back of their teeth. God's Truth is to be trusted far more than the words of man. Time and time again (as science findings catch up with truth) they PROVE the bible was true all along.

Another thing to consider: "do not be conformed to this World but be transformed by the RENEWING OF YOUR MINDS" Romans 12. Do not change God's Truth to make it fit with science, but change your thinking to fit in with Scripture because it IS the ultimate truth.

Also: Psalms 2:1-3
Why do the nations conspire and the peoples plot in vain? The kings of the earth take their stand and the rulers gather together against the LORD and against his Anointed One. “Let us break their chains,” they say, “and throw off their fetters.”.
Everything "experts" do is a conspiracy to discredit Christianity.

 

[Strangelove]

Yep they photographed some in the last few years with hubbel deep space. They found them through observational wobble in the parent star

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WOBBLE!

LOLZ!

You gonna believe NASA, a governemnt agency, when they tell you a giant dwarf star called planet X or nibiru or whatever they been programming us with...is on a collision course with Earth, excep we cant see ot cuz its...erm...in another dimension or summink!?

And I've never said the planets dont orbit the sun.

 

[Strangelove]

Almost everyone before 1500

Got any quotes from famous Christians who thought the world was flat?

Nope the burden is on you to use your head for more than a hat rack oh great detractor of the Catholics and EOC

We have a recantation from Galileo in the documentary record. Prove it to be forced if you can. Insulting me does not wipe this document from history.

Are they? Or is it because of the population explosion and media that shows us these things?

Nope, we're def. sicker than ever.

Yes it is and they did teach that in the 15th century next!

Who cares, neither the bible or science teaches a flat earth. Next.

No they Don't that is only your interpretation

You've barely addressed any scripture to prove my interpretation wrong.

Nope but men do with pen every day nothing new under the sun Doc.
No you don't you believe those of like mind and purport there thinkings on it as evidence to back up your wacky claims
Nope I interpret them differently
Nope sorry it doesn't thats your interpretation again!

I see a lot of denial here.

Except your very VERY quiet on how or why you interpret them differently. Why wont you discuss scripture?

HUH? Back peddle faster doc.!

I havnt back peddled on anything what are you talking about?

No silly it shows how objects of a larger mass control those or exert a force on those of a lesser mass

Indeed, thats called heavyness...and we've only ever obseerved it here on EARTH.

Yep we do by the amount of force it exerts to control it's own system we can closely estimate its mass

Nope, we have no idea of the mass of the sun its completely hypothetical just like the rest of the stuff your using in this thread!

 

[Strangelove]

You are doc check post #22

Post #22 says:

Ok my evidence is that we observe the sun and stars orbit a stationary earth.

So, again...what are you talking about?

I've never said the planets dont orbit the sun.

You really need to keep up.

 

[Strangelove]

I do use my smarts you don't

The earth isn't a planet............ha hahahahahahahahahahaha OK Doc. take 2 advil your head is swelling

Keeping up with you is childs play LOL

Yeah I would believe NASA over the S**T your trying to spew!

You were like this about the whore of babs too.

Turns out you were wrong.

 

[Strangelove]

I haven't posed any argument that requires trigonometry, hypothetical or otherwise. It is not an area I am intimately familiar with, nor an area that I wish to pursue.

As for the rest of your post, I'm not sure that I understand your intention. It doesn't seem to answer the question of whether or not you would allow science to prove something to you that isn't "plain to see". It seems like you're saying "no"; in which case there seems to be no way to argue against geocentrisim. Just like there is no way to argue for germs if you don't accept the reliability of microscopes.

Go ahead and prove the helio model with science then, we're waiting.

 

[Strangelove]

Here's a picture for you doc. and yes it's a real photo the planet is at what looks like a beam of light coming from the star

It's a LIGHT in space.

Whats next?

 

[Strangelove]

Bingo Bud if they won't accept empiracal data then debate with them is a waste of your time!

Wheres your data?

 

[Strangelove]

Her's another one with 3 planets orbiting it can you see them Doc.

That looks like something my son knocked up on windows paint.

It's obviously computer generated.

Next!

 

[Strangelove]

Do you think the only goal of the talmudic regime is world domination?

Doc. they believe that they are gonna be able to implant their consciousnesses into mechanical bodies that never die and travel the cosmos forever.
Why do you think there was quite a push to go to the moon in the sixties?

It wasn't for cheese!

I am trying to find an ols file about what I am gabbing about but computer is being as stubborn as you soon as I find it I will c/p for your enjoyment and later ridicule I am sure. LOL

Lulwhut?.........

 

[Strangelove]

I am wondering why no one has responded to this post of mine? Is it because none of you have watched those videos. Are afraid that evidence may disprove your THEORIES?

Here is the link to the first video again. CLICK HERE

By the way: the reason I have pasted the videos is to prove that NOTHING is as it appears. Nothing is consistent and the planets behave in unscientific ways. That is because GOD created them in the way that HE determined it. Science will NEVER be able to explain the supernatural. The videos indicate a Creator because the Universe does NOT behave as it shgould according to scientists.

The videos do ALSO make certain assumptions ie that man HAS landed on the moon (which apparently is impossible). Have you wondered why there has never been any man on the moon ever since the conspiracies started. Could it be that technologies of the last 30-40 years or so can expose things more. They haven't tried because they no they will be exposed.

Although the videos make the assumption that there are mirrors on the moon, I still wanted to show the videos.

I will give the reason. Paul said "I become all things to everybody, so that I may win some. To the Jew I am a Jew, to the.........." 1 Cor 9:19-22 So for the sake of those who maintain that man has landed on the moon and therefore insist the distance to moon can be measured, these videos (using the "same" evidence disprove other things with the adherents cling to). So EVEN if the distances can be measured, the "other" finding (if it is true) can disprove other "given" assumptions. If they are wrong and man has not landed on the moon, then you can no longer use any assumptions in measuring.


I have another question that has not yet been answered. The THEORY (not absolute fact) of the size of the sun? I can understand that IF the speed of light was 100% accurate, you could calculate the sun's size by multiplying what see see with our naked eye by the amount of time it takes for its light to touch Earth. However, has anyone or anything been able to land mirrors on the sun to test out how long it takes?

Therefore, assumptions are made everywhere. assumptions that orbit speeds are constant, speed of light has been correctly measured and is constant, imperfect man's collider experiments are 100% accurate/perfect. Assumptions that there are no demon inspired conspiracies to deceive us.

Bearing in mind that the sun is so hot that nothing can get remotely close without being destroyed, how can you measure its density? It is all assumptions based on the planets which orbit the sun. The distances are calculations based on assumptions (or theories).

I am actually astounded at the reasonings used on a "christian" site. Surely Christians are those whose eyes have been opened to the satanic conspiracies in this world - all designed to disprove our faith. "the whole world lies in the hands of the evil one" 1 John 5:19
"For our struggle is not against ]flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places." Eph 6:12

ie the global scheme of things is controlled by satan. Christians wake up and smell the pungent sulphur.

DO NOT believe everything you read by the so-called scientific experts. They are all part of that satanic conspiracy and are LYING through the back of their teeth. God's Truth is to be trusted far more than the words of man. Time and time again (as science findings catch up with truth) they PROVE the bible was true all along.

Another thing to consider: "do not be conformed to this World but be transformed by the RENEWING OF YOUR MINDS" Romans 12. Do not change God's Truth to make it fit with science, but change your thinking to fit in with Scripture because it IS the ultimate truth.

Magnificent post Brother.

Cha-Ching! That post is MONEY!

 

[JohnChingford2007]

Hey Guys
It seems appropriate now to ask everyone to read the forum rules. I have just read them. It seems apparent why some get banned.

CLICK HERE

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

the existence of the lagrangian points prove that the earth revolves around the sun...

Lagrangian point - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

these points could not exist if the sun revolved around the earth

 

[zeroturbulence]

Answer, anyone? ...Bueller? .........Bueller?

 

[zone]

WOBBLE!

LOLZ!

You gonna believe NASA, a governemnt agency, when they tell you a giant dwarf star called planet X or nibiru or whatever they been programming us with...is on a collision course with Earth, excep we cant see ot cuz its...erm...in another dimension or summink!?

And I've never said the planets dont orbit the sun.

Operation Paperclip

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Project_Paperclip_Team_at_Fort_Bliss.jpg
A group of 104 rocket scientists (aerospace engineers) at Fort Bliss, Texas




Operation Paperclip was the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) program used to recruit the scientists of Nazi Germany for employment by the United States in the aftermath of World War II (1939–45).

It was conducted by the Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency (JIOA), and in the context of the burgeoning Soviet–American Cold War (1945–91); one purpose of Operation Paperclip was to deny German scientific knowledge and expertise to the USSR[1] and the UK.[2]

Although the JIOA’s recruitment of German scientists began after the European Allied victory (8 May 1945), US President Harry Truman did not formally order the execution of Operation Paperclip until August 1945. Truman's order expressly excluded anyone found “to have been a member of the Nazi Party, and more than a nominal participant in its activities, or an active supporter of Nazi militarism.”

Said restrictions would have rendered ineligible most of the scientists the JIOA had identified for recruitment, among them rocket scientists Wernher von Braun and Arthur Rudolph, and the physician Hubertus Strughold, each earlier classified as a “menace to the security of the Allied Forces”.

To circumvent President Truman’s anti-Nazi order, and the Allied Potsdam and Yalta agreements, the JIOA worked independently to create false employment and political biographies for the scientists. The JIOA also expunged from the public record the scientists' Nazi Party memberships and régime affiliations. Once “bleached” of their Nazism, the US Government granted the scientists security clearance to work in the United States. Paperclip, the project’s operational name, derived from the paperclips used to attach the scientists’ new political personae to their “US Government Scientist” JIOA personnel files.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Welsh_Dulles

 

[zone]

the existence of the lagrangian points prove that the earth revolves around the sun...

Lagrangian point - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

these points could not exist if the sun revolved around the earth

The Lagrangian points (pronounced /ləˈɡrɑːndʒiən/; also Lagrange points, L-points, or libration points) are the five positions in an orbital configuration where a small object affected only by gravity can theoretically be stationary relative to two larger objects (such as a satellite with respect to the Earth and Moon). The Lagrange points mark positions where the combined gravitational pull of the two large masses provides precisely the centripetal force required to rotate with them.

 

[JohnChingford2007]

The Lagrangian points (pronounced /ləˈɡrɑːndʒiən/; also Lagrange points, L-points, or libration points) are the five positions in an orbital configuration where a small object affected only by gravity can theoretically be stationary relative to two larger objects (such as a satellite with respect to the Earth and Moon). The Lagrange points mark positions where the combined gravitational pull of the two large masses provides precisely the centripetal force required to rotate with them.

Hi Zone
You have lost me with your last two posts. Please could you let us know what you are trying to say. Thanks

 

[zone]

Hi Zone
You have lost me with your last two posts. Please could you let us know what you are trying to say. Thanks

nasa is an occult nazi organization (freemasonic): ITS ALL SMOKE AND MIRRORS.

the second post just confirming I ACCEPT NO theoretical "science".
already showed you where the Big Bang theory came from.

antichrist.

LOOK AT THAT WORD IN RED.

just google : NASA OCCULT NAMES...not hard. who would believe anything from MYSTERY BABYLON?

 

[zeroturbulence]

So you're saying that NASA's just a bunch of space cadets?

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

The Lagrangian points (pronounced /ləˈɡrɑːndʒiən/; also Lagrange points, L-points, or libration points) are the five positions in an orbital configuration where a small object affected only by gravity can theoretically be stationary relative to two larger objects (such as a satellite with respect to the Earth and Moon). The Lagrange points mark positions where the combined gravitational pull of the two large masses provides precisely the centripetal force required to rotate with them.

the lagrangian points have been experimentally verified...and they are where they are supposed to be according to the heliocentric model

they put long term spacecraft at the lagrangian points because they do not need to burn fuel to stay at those points... they can stay there basically forever

there are also natural objects at the lagrangian points...like asteroids and clouds of dust... they don't move away from the lagrangian points

a geocentric model would imply totally different locations for lagrangian points...but we just don't see any such points there