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I like Zac Poonen quite a bit, he's very clear and easy to understand.
and he's sweet. he's not all. gah! you failed! you're sinnnnnnerrrs! he's saying God knew we'd have this struggle when He made us this way and He did it on purpose so we'd learn to fight.
and he's right.

God could have made life easy for us. it could have been eden.
but he knew we wouldn't choose that route. so i guess purity is worth fighting for.
 
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God could have made life easy for us. it could have been eden.
but he knew we wouldn't choose that route. so i guess purity is worth fighting for.
Fo' sho'! Put on that breastplate, place that helmet on your head! Pick up that shield and that sword, and fight! (eph 6)
 
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ok. something tells me i need to seriously take a step against this. i need accountability or i will surely fall again. anyone on the market for an accountability partner?
 
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do you have any idea how many times i've convinced myself it's ok? how many times i've decided to quit? how many times i fell back into it and stopped fighting? i feel INSANE

and jimmy i'm gonna watch those teaching. thanks again :)
 
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do you have any idea how many times i've convinced myself it's ok? how many times i've decided to quit? how many times i fell back into it and stopped fighting? i feel INSANE
Been there. Done that. I know what you're talking about all too personally. :/

But hey, check this out..

James 4 said:
1 What causes fights and quarrels among you? Don’t they come from your desires that battle within you? 2 You desire but do not have, so you kill. You covet but you cannot get what you want, so you quarrel and fight. You do not have because you do not ask God. 3 When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures.

4 You adulterous people,[a] don’t you know that friendship with the world means enmity against God? Therefore, anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God. 5 Or do you think Scripture says without reason that he jealously longs for the spirit he has caused to dwell in us[b]? 6 But he gives us more grace. That is why Scripture says:
“God opposes the proud
but shows favor to the humble.”[c]
7 Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. 8 Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. 9 Grieve, mourn and wail. Change your laughter to mourning and your joy to gloom. 10 Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up. 11 Brothers and sisters, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against a brother or sister[d] or judges them speaks against the law and judges it. When you judge the law, you are not keeping it, but sitting in judgment on it. 12 There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you—who are you to judge your neighbor?
and jimmy i'm gonna watch those teaching. thanks again :)
No problemo.
 

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hey.
i know this is a topic that gets addressed a lot and hopefully if i can discuss it here in a respectful manner i won't get banned. i'm having a hard time separating what i do with who i am. i know we're sexual beings and that we need to learn to trust God with our sexuality, and that he will guide us in all righteousness and give us the desires of our hearts when we put him first.

but... why do i feel so lonely and sexually frustrated?
it's definitely been worse this last year as i haven't had a good congregation to attend and haven't many christian friends. it's why i popped on here. because i'm losing touch with what the word of God might say about modern issues. i know the bible says "don't have sex with the same gender, don't have sex with animals, don't have sex with relatives, and don't have sex with a women on her period" but it doesn't say "don't have sex with yourself" HOWEVER,

the word says that in the end people will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, greedy, proud, etc, etc. and the lovers of themselves part sticks out to me. how can i get this monkey off my back? so to speak. i feel like i'm not just craving sex. i'm craving friendship and intimacy. and i'm using this vice as a filler to almost try and replace that. there's a part of my heart that is satisfied more than my body in the things i am watching. but i also know how guilty i feel for trying to fill my "love bucket" that way.

my love language is physical touch. and i guess i really don't get much touch or fellowship in general.
i feel needy.
i feel greedy.
i feel lost.
i'm having trouble trusting God with my life, my safety, my desires, and my heart.

and i wish i knew how to really put this behind me. because even though i've only been giving into it in more recent months, it's been something i've dealt with, thought about, and wanted for years and years.
i feel like it's not just a bad habit, it's part of who i am. i've been dealing with this issue since i was a child. not the soft-core pron. but the masturbation since i was 5.

i just. i don't know how to accept what my desires are in a healthy way, that will allow me to actually let go of it. bury it until the time when i can meet them in a covenant relationship. i know my desires are mostly normal. but. i don't know how to deal with them.

sorry if this is too long <3
Bless you.
Porn is wrong, but I don't believe masturbation is. Many men have to masturbate in order for their bodies to continue in good health. But we're men. That's how we operate. :D There is nothing in the Bible that says masturbation is wrong. That is a conclusion that always has to be derived, and I believe it to be a fallible one.

At any rate, I know I've been struggling with loneliness myself. To my own shame I tried porn, but it left me hollow inside and feeling even lonelier than before. What I needed was affection from love. Not hollow sex. Porn does nothing for me, and I have little desire for it even as a man.

I can go months without a single hug, and days without even touching another person. It is hard. I agree with you. Because what we need is meaningful affection. That is what we long for, but I know I cannot have it. And there is nothing I can do that will be obeying God or disobeying him that will change anything for me.

To tell you the truth I get so distressed about this sometimes that my limbs grow weak. I remember the feeling because it was the same feeling I had when I fell to my knees after going through what my ex put me through. Sometimes I feel like my heart has to take so much flack because I've been searching for the right woman and every woman wants to be chased. Every woman will play games and make you wait and ignore you. I understand their reasons for this. But it's not the loneliness that really hurts. It's the amount of people that ignore you when you're hurting. It's not like I'm looking for just any girl. I put girls through a number of litmus tests. lol While they're running away I'm close behind, examining how they run and then deciding if I want to continue to pursue them. lol It's quite tiring.

I don't count on people understanding me or showing me affection after reading this post, but the people here have already shown me so much affection without even being asked for it. And it has helped me considerably. I thank them for a warm welcome to this website.

In the end I don't trust God to give me someone or to give me to someone. But I hope he will help us all to follow him and finish the race and rest at last in the end. As an aside, I'm not all gloom and doom. Life has made me a little more serious, but sometimes my sense of humor is at its best when I'm emotionally exhausted. I've just tried so many tricks to occupy myself and forget my loneliness, but the inevitable always returns. It's just part of life we have to deal with. And the fact that I'm such an optimistic and motivational speaker will certainly win the ladies over in droves. :rolleyes: Seriously though, I'm just tired of being judged, coming up short and being ignored. Maybe I'll find someone. Maybe I won't. But that's my story, and I sympathize with you.
 
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Porn is wrong, but I don't believe masturbation is. Many men have to masturbate in order for their bodies to continue in good health. But we're men. That's how we operate. :D There is nothing in the Bible that says masturbation is wrong. That is a conclusion that always has to be derived, and I believe it to be a fallible one.

At any rate, I know I've been struggling with loneliness myself. To my own shame I tried porn, but it left me hollow inside and feeling even lonelier than before. What I needed was affection from love. Not hollow sex. Porn does nothing for me, and I have little desire for it even as a man.

I can go months without a single hug, and days without even touching another person. It is hard. I agree with you. Because what we need is meaningful affection. That is what we long for, but I know I cannot have it. And there is nothing I can do that will be obeying God or disobeying him that will change anything for me.

To tell you the truth I get so distressed about this sometimes that my limbs grow weak. I remember the feeling because it was the same feeling I had when I fell to my knees after going through what my ex put me through. Sometimes I feel like my heart has to take so much flack because I've been searching for the right woman and every woman wants to be chased. Every woman will play games and make you wait and ignore you. I understand their reasons for this. But it's not the loneliness that really hurts. It's the amount of people that ignore you when you're hurting. It's not like I'm looking for just any girl. I put girls through a number of litmus tests. lol While they're running away I'm close behind, examining how they run and then deciding if I want to continue to pursue them. lol It's quite tiring.

I don't count on people understanding me or showing me affection after reading this post, but the people here have already shown me so much affection without even being asked for it. And it has helped me considerably. I thank them for a warm welcome to this website.

In the end I don't trust God to give me someone or to give me to someone. But I hope he will help us all to follow him and finish the race and rest at last in the end. As an aside, I'm not all gloom and doom. Life has made me a little more serious, but sometimes my sense of humor is at its best when I'm emotionally exhausted. I've just tried so many tricks to occupy myself and forget my loneliness, but the inevitable always returns. It's just part of life we have to deal with. And the fact that I'm such an optimistic and motivational speaker will certainly win the ladies over in droves. :rolleyes: Seriously though, I'm just tired of being judged, coming up short and being ignored. Maybe I'll find someone. Maybe I won't. But that's my story, and I sympathize with you.
^_^ i like you!
i love this note. it's nice to know i'm not alone in that feeling. loneliness. it's like rampant. and knowing God doesn't make me less lonely <3 i mean. a little. but i believe human touch seriously is one of the basic human needs. i mean food and water come first. but ya know.

you're right. the porn is empty and hollow. (as well as wrong)
but yeah. if i go too long without a hug. i just almost implode <3

if you're looking for someone to talk to? i'm here :) i'm a faithful emailer.
it's nice to meet you aristocrat. and i do hope God shows you who the right girl is soon. i never thought about what it must be like to be a guy, pursue the masses, and be turned down regularly.

and i totally loled at the swearing like a sailor. lately? i've built my own boat. hahahahaha.
oh God! save me from myselfffffff!
:)
 
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oh! and if it's any consolation? not all women play games. i never ever ever ignore someone's pursuits if i'm interested in them. only if i'm not. actually. not even then. i try to tell them off the bat so they don't get their hopes up. sometimes awkward. but yeah.

not all girls will hide. the right girl won't be TOO hard to catch <3 should it be God's will to bless you with a wife <3
 
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YEAH I STRUGGLE WITH THESE ISSUES TOO. I'VE BEEN IN A FEW RELATIONSHIPS WHERE I'VE ACTUALLY SINNED BY FORNICATING. I HAD A BABY WITH A GIRL OUT OF WEDLOCK. SO THIS WHOLE ISSUE WITH SEXUAL IMMORALITY IS REALLY CONVICTING ME. IT'S SOMETHING I NEED TO LET GO OF. I BELIEVE I'M READY TO SETTLE DOWN. I'VE BEEN PRAYING FOR THE RIGHT WOMAN TO COME ALONG. I'VE TALKED TO MANY PASTORS ABOUT THIS AND I'VE GOTTEN NOWHERE. BUT I HAVE FAITH IN GOD THAT HE WILL DELIVER ME FROM THIS.
 
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YEAH I STRUGGLE WITH THESE ISSUES TOO. I'VE BEEN IN A FEW RELATIONSHIPS WHERE I'VE ACTUALLY SINNED BY FORNICATING. I HAD A BABY WITH A GIRL OUT OF WEDLOCK. SO THIS WHOLE ISSUE WITH SEXUAL IMMORALITY IS REALLY CONVICTING ME. IT'S SOMETHING I NEED TO LET GO OF. I BELIEVE I'M READY TO SETTLE DOWN. I'VE BEEN PRAYING FOR THE RIGHT WOMAN TO COME ALONG. I'VE TALKED TO MANY PASTORS ABOUT THIS AND I'VE GOTTEN NOWHERE. BUT I HAVE FAITH IN GOD THAT HE WILL DELIVER ME FROM THIS.
good for you. i believe you can break free. <3
 
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Hello!

I've struggled with same things. I'm sure many Christians have been or are struggling with porn/masturbation. I just want to share with you what has helped me.
I used to blame my self about all those 'dirty thoughts' in my head, thoughts that usually lead to masturbation & porn. That made me feel very dirty and I really couldn't understant why do I have all these thoughts and urges, I'm a Christian! and Christians are 'good people' so why I'm still having these dirty fantasies going on in my head?

Then I did something no priest would instruct you to do, I told Father, Father I just cannot help my self, you see everything and you know what's good for me, please help me. I told Him that I'm weak, I'm incapable of doing anything, I just leave everything to You, I let you worry about everything.

That really changed everything, when I was about to give up, I just cried to Father that I give up, there is nothing I can do, only You can help me, it's not my job to to take care of these issues, it's Your job to do it!!

I really didn't think about what I had said to God untill I had that 'urge' again, then when I was doing you know what I realised this is not as 'fun' as it used to be, I don't know why, but I think I don't want to do this anymore.

The more I wanted to resist my urge to masturbate/watch porn the harder it became for me. When I honestly told God that I'm weak, I cannot do anything about this, only You can, then things started happening. I used to masturbate daily, even after I became a Christian. That went on untill I just 'raised my hands up' and told Father that I can't do anything on my own, just help me.
He really hears our prayers, I still masturbate from time to time, I know it's not good for me, but It's His job to deal with it, as long as I want Him to deal with it.

When you just admit that you can't do anything by yourself, and you need help, you'll get it.
 
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Hello!

I've struggled with same things. I'm sure many Christians have been or are struggling with porn/masturbation. I just want to share with you what has helped me.
I used to blame my self about all those 'dirty thoughts' in my head, thoughts that usually lead to masturbation & porn. That made me feel very dirty and I really couldn't understant why do I have all these thoughts and urges, I'm a Christian! and Christians are 'good people' so why I'm still having these dirty fantasies going on in my head?

Then I did something no priest would instruct you to do, I told Father, Father I just cannot help my self, you see everything and you know what's good for me, please help me. I told Him that I'm weak, I'm incapable of doing anything, I just leave everything to You, I let you worry about everything.

That really changed everything, when I was about to give up, I just cried to Father that I give up, there is nothing I can do, only You can help me, it's not my job to to take care of these issues, it's Your job to do it!!

I really didn't think about what I had said to God untill I had that 'urge' again, then when I was doing you know what I realised this is not as 'fun' as it used to be, I don't know why, but I think I don't want to do this anymore.

The more I wanted to resist my urge to masturbate/watch porn the harder it became for me. When I honestly told God that I'm weak, I cannot do anything about this, only You can, then things started happening. I used to masturbate daily, even after I became a Christian. That went on untill I just 'raised my hands up' and told Father that I can't do anything on my own, just help me.
He really hears our prayers, I still masturbate from time to time, I know it's not good for me, but It's His job to deal with it, as long as I want Him to deal with it.

When you just admit that you can't do anything by yourself, and you need help, you'll get it.
mikaeli,
thank you. that's exactly it. the thoughts and desires that precede any actual sin are frighteningly present and strong. and i feel like there's something wrong with me for even feeling that way. the actual act is almost an attempt to hide from those desires. but i can't say that works very well.

thank you for your support. i am sure if i make up my mind to squish the thoughts, i can probably conquer it with grace. <3 :)
 
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