Christ in You is the Hope of Glory.
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...I don't think anyone is arguing against the words Christ Himself spoke. Not as far as I can tell, anyway.
The problem I'm seeing with this is that people are saying that if we are not perfect as God is perfect, then we are not God's children, and that we are following our own 'gods'.
And I'm still not understanding why we need to be covered by grace if it's possible to BE EXACTLY LIKE JESUS...because it still sounds to me like if we can BE EXACTLY LIKE JESUS, then....WE DON'T NEED JESUS.
We are supposed to TRY to be Christ-like. We are to STRIVE to be Christ-like. The fact that it isn't HUMANLY POSSIBLE TO BE PERFECT AS CHRIST WAS PERFECT is no excuse to go out and sin, but it is WHY WE NEED CHRIST.
Am I yelling...?
Maybe I should have a burger.
The problem I'm seeing with this is that people are saying that if we are not perfect as God is perfect, then we are not God's children, and that we are following our own 'gods'.
And I'm still not understanding why we need to be covered by grace if it's possible to BE EXACTLY LIKE JESUS...because it still sounds to me like if we can BE EXACTLY LIKE JESUS, then....WE DON'T NEED JESUS.
We are supposed to TRY to be Christ-like. We are to STRIVE to be Christ-like. The fact that it isn't HUMANLY POSSIBLE TO BE PERFECT AS CHRIST WAS PERFECT is no excuse to go out and sin, but it is WHY WE NEED CHRIST.
Am I yelling...?
Maybe I should have a burger.
The difference in the god you serve and the one I serve is, you make your god what you want him to be by your laws for tradition. The one I serve is in CHrist we are formed into His image to be like Him. That is the difference in who you serve and who I serve.
If the god you serve is what youant of him then go for it, But as for me, Christ is formed in me.
Read on, 1 John 3:5-9. Christ came to take away the sins of this world. If one is in sin he doent know Him at all V6. If you are a sinner then you are of the devil, V8. V9 it is impossible to be in sin and be in Christ.
All have sinned and fall short, sinned is past participle. In Christ there is no sin at all. it is outside Christ that you are a sinner. Christ in you assures you of no sin, it is impossible as 1 John 3:9 states.
All have sinned and fall short, sinned is past participle. In Christ there is no sin at all. it is outside Christ that you are a sinner. Christ in you assures you of no sin, it is impossible as 1 John 3:9 states.
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show me one post where I said that.
you can twist and wriggle but you won't find one. you might be able to dig up someone accusing me of believing that or lump me with others who have stated it.
Show me a post.
I do not preach that sin is good. I state that grace is required for all.
I say all are called to be perfect in love, grace and mercy to others and themselves as GOD is to them.
I state that to be perfect as GOD is perfect in love is something for all to strive to be.
I state to strive to be perfect in KNOWLEDGE and POWER as God is, is folly and worse.
I say that all should learn to give forgiveness as freely as God gives to each who ask Him with truly repentant hearts.
you can twist and wriggle but you won't find one. you might be able to dig up someone accusing me of believing that or lump me with others who have stated it.
Show me a post.
I do not preach that sin is good. I state that grace is required for all.
I say all are called to be perfect in love, grace and mercy to others and themselves as GOD is to them.
I state that to be perfect as GOD is perfect in love is something for all to strive to be.
I state to strive to be perfect in KNOWLEDGE and POWER as God is, is folly and worse.
I say that all should learn to give forgiveness as freely as God gives to each who ask Him with truly repentant hearts.
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Without scripture you are doing nothing more than trying to cause division.
Yet He did come to bring a sword. So be it. We know who we belong to
and who are His. And can understand who is gathering or scattering.
Oh, then I apploigize, I may have you mixed up with someone else.
The gift of God is Christ in you. If one have that then there is no striving, it is a gift that you cant earn. Perfection is in Christ, not trying to be in Christ. You can try and not sin but if you break even one of the laws you are guilty of all of them, that is why in Christ we are not under those stipulations placed on the flesh man, carnality. Perfected in His SPirit. The gift of God that you simply cannot earn but recieve in your being as one with Him.
Yes a born again has the mind of Christ, is as He is, one with Him, same perfection same everything. and knows all that Christ knows.
Because some arent making it all the way around that same ole mountain. Denying the perfection of the Christ in you. And we will go round and round it until one gets tired and gives up or maks the trip for himself.
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A born again person does not have the mind of Christ. That comes from renewing the mind. Which comes from
study and growing in knowledge and grace. Being transformed. It is a process not a one time event. Although
we have to be active in it its a work of the Holyspirit. There is a difference between our standing and state.
study and growing in knowledge and grace. Being transformed. It is a process not a one time event. Although
we have to be active in it its a work of the Holyspirit. There is a difference between our standing and state.
He always was Jesus, son of man, son of Mary and Joseph. Made of a woman born under the law, just as we all are. Without the reproduction of flesh there would be none.
Jesus taught the law in the temples at a young just as a lot of us have, but he didnt know Gods heaven until God came to the man and opend it to him in Matt 3:16 just as he does in all who reieve from Him the same.
Jesus taught the law in the temples at a young just as a lot of us have, but he didnt know Gods heaven until God came to the man and opend it to him in Matt 3:16 just as he does in all who reieve from Him the same.
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do you believe in the Virgin birth?
Luke 1
26 Now in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth, 27 to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David. The virgin’s name was Mary. 28 And having come in, the angel said to her, “Rejoice, highly favored one, the Lord is with you; blessed are you among women!”[c]
29 But when she saw him,[d] she was troubled at his saying, and considered what manner of greeting this was. 30 Then the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. 31 And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name JESUS. 32 He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David. 33 And He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of His kingdom there will be no end.”
34 Then Mary said to the angel, “How can this be, since I do not know a man?”
35 And the angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God. 36 Now indeed, Elizabeth your relative has also conceived a son in her old age; and this is now the sixth month for her who was called barren. 37 For with God nothing will be impossible.”
38 Then Mary said, “Behold the maidservant of the Lord! Let it be to me according to your word.” And the angel departed from her.
Luke 1
26 Now in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth, 27 to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David. The virgin’s name was Mary. 28 And having come in, the angel said to her, “Rejoice, highly favored one, the Lord is with you; blessed are you among women!”[c]
29 But when she saw him,[d] she was troubled at his saying, and considered what manner of greeting this was. 30 Then the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. 31 And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name JESUS. 32 He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David. 33 And He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of His kingdom there will be no end.”
34 Then Mary said to the angel, “How can this be, since I do not know a man?”
35 And the angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God. 36 Now indeed, Elizabeth your relative has also conceived a son in her old age; and this is now the sixth month for her who was called barren. 37 For with God nothing will be impossible.”
38 Then Mary said, “Behold the maidservant of the Lord! Let it be to me according to your word.” And the angel departed from her.
You make it sound as if its a immediate transformed mind into Christ and that is where the trouble is. as one but as the Word says that we grow in knowledge from a babe (someone new in Christ) to a warrior in Christ.
Thus you are NOT transformed immediately but it takes time to perfection in Christ.
1 Peter 2:2
Like newborn babies, crave pure spiritual milk, so that by it you may grow up in your salvation.
Christ in us is PERFECT but it takes TIME to mature into His Spirit that dwells in our heart. It's not KABOOM and WHOLA now you are perfect NO it is not so.
Thus you are NOT transformed immediately but it takes time to perfection in Christ.
1 Peter 2:2
Like newborn babies, crave pure spiritual milk, so that by it you may grow up in your salvation.
Christ in us is PERFECT but it takes TIME to mature into His Spirit that dwells in our heart. It's not KABOOM and WHOLA now you are perfect NO it is not so.
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