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MissCris

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LOL, here ya go, misscriss :D *hands an aspirin over*
Thank you! It was much needed. I've been following this thread since it started and it's gone in so many circles and made such little sense that I think my head may explode.
 
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was Jesus of Nazareth the naturally concieved baby of procreation (sex) between Mary and Joseph?
Absoutly. But the seed of God that was planted in Mary was Gods SPirit.
 

lil_christian

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Thank you! It was much needed. I've been following this thread since it started and it's gone in so many circles and made such little sense that I think my head may explode.
Yeah it gets that way sometimes...who woulda though Christians butted heads so much?
 

zone

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Absoutly. But the seed of God that was planted in Mary was Gods SPirit.

so....mary was not a virgin when she was conceived of The Holy Spirit?

Joseph was Jesus' actual physical biological father?

JUST SOME PRECISION ON THIS AND I'LL BE DONE.
THANKS.

if you could provide scriptural support for us that might help.
 
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Then you put the cart before the horse to be colorful? To get attention? To ruffle feathers?
You still make crazy statements that on the surface sound dead wrong and mislead. Im not
at all someone who can take much back and forth. Tends to appear to be nothing of value
Its my opinion only. But the bible develops spiritual doctrine. It doesnt give the answer followed
by questions. I rekon i wanted you to say you misspoke saying the word of God cant save you,
when i followed with the Word of God that says that its the word of God that IS what saves you.
But i realize you can expect too much. You too wiggly for me..I need to do other things anyway.


Like it or not, the word can lead you to the Christ where salvation resides IF you follow the instructions in the word and in that is salvation. In the beginning was the wrod, in the beginning of every mans salvation is the word and no one excapes this if they are to be in Christ as John stated in John 1. You cannot be saved until you hear it no matter what you say.

The word of God lies within in all who have His SPirit. we are His living word. Jesus Christ came to put into any man who would let Him a new heredity which would exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees. And you must be so pure in your motives that God Almighty can see nothing to censure.


Jesus Christ claims that by His Redemption He can put into any man His own disposition, and make him as unsullied and as simple as a child. The disposition of Jesus Christ is what the Holy Spirit does in you. The purity which God demands is impossible unless I can be remade within, and that is what Jesus has undertaken to do by His Redemption.


Who can stand in His light with nothing to censure? Only a son of God who has been redeemed from the law of sin and death associated with carnality and laws for tradition which hold judgment to be censored by Him. One who is free is free indeed, Christ in you.


And no man can make himself pure by obeying laws. Christ does not give us rules and regulations, His truth can only be interpreted by the disposition He puts in. Christ alters heredity he doesnt alter human nature, he alters what motivates human nature.
 

zone

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Are you sugesting that Jesus was not born flesh and that Mary didnt recieve Gods Spirit?

not so fast GaryMac.

i asked:

was Jesus of Nazareth the naturally concieved baby of procreation (sex) between Mary and Joseph?
and you said absolutely.

may we go back to this first please?
 
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so....mary was not a virgin when she was conceived of The Holy Spirit?

Joseph was Jesus' actual physical biological father?
How did you get that from this
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Absoutly. But the seed of God that was planted in Mary was Gods SPirit.
 
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Originally Posted by zone

was Jesus of Nazareth the naturally concieved baby of procreation (sex) between Mary and Joseph?
Absoutly. But the seed of God that was planted in Mary was Gods SPirit.
Gary, are you claiming that Jesus was born through a sexual union between Mary, and Joseph?
 

lil_christian

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Are you sugesting that Jesus was not born flesh and that Mary didnt recieve Gods Spirit?
She did....but Zone asked if Jesus was conceived naturally...and you said yes...
 

lil_christian

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was Jesus of Nazareth the naturally concieved baby of procreation (sex) between Mary and Joseph?
Absoutly. But the seed of God that was planted in Mary was Gods SPirit.
That spoke VOLUMES.
 
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AnandaHya

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Yeah it gets that way sometimes...who woulda though Christians butted heads so much?
I don't butt heads over and over again with Christians who have good doctrine and read their Bible and pray.

, we have coffee and tea, would you like to join?
 

cronjecj

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I don't butt heads over and over again with Christians who have good doctrine and read their Bible and pray.

, we have coffee and tea, would you like to join?
Care if i serve some?

 
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so....mary was not a virgin when she was conceived of The Holy Spirit?

Joseph was Jesus' actual physical biological father?

JUST SOME PRECISION ON THIS AND I'LL BE DONE.
THANKS.

if you could provide scriptural support for us that might help.





The whole book is based on this virgin birth. And please read closly what the whole thing of what I wrote instead of hitting on one little topic thet you dont understand and not read the rest as most of you do.
Again I will post this. Every single person who receives from God His Spirit is virgin to His Spirit until that seed be planted in you and you are no longer virgin. It doesnt come naturally it comes supernaturally. He is Spirit not a man. His seed be planted in you is the same seed He planted in Mary, and remember, He never changes, why haven’t you all given birth to that same Christ, Gods anointing by His same Spirit? That what was conceived in Mary is the same one conceived in all who will receive Him. God ejaculating in you His Spirit, His mind, His everything, and we being His bride do give birth to His seed. Christ formed in you. When are you guys going to put all this together that you read from the word and act on it instead of making excuses why you can’t have in you that what Mary had in her and Jesus had in Him and Paul and John and all of these?

The message in the virgin birth is Gods Spirit planted in you and you giving birth to the Christ within.

What makes you better than Mary that He isn’t able, or better put, not welcomed do that what He came for and that is to put into you His disposition. What makes you better than Jesus that you can’t be like Him? And this is exactly what you are telling me that it isn’t possible for you to have His same Spirit in you He put in Mary, and Jesus, and John, and Paul and all of these we read of.

Put it together folks! Why do you think it is paramount that His Spirit come to you and be in you and you give birth to the Christ that is supposed to be in you? Put it together, why would He want you to have the mind of Christ and why do you think He would want you to be one with Him He in you and you in Him as one. Put it together folks, why would he want you to be perfect even as He is? Why would all these things be said for you if He didnt want that of you?

You guys are not getting His message for you at all. It is YOU He seeks, It is YOU He came and gave His life so YOU may live His life, It is YOU that He comes and puts in you that which is Holy, and righteous and everything He stands for as a son or daughter of His. How can you be an ambassador if you do not believe you can have in you that what Jesus had in him?

Tie it together. The message in the cross is death to the flesh man an resurrection of the Spirit man, a new birth, Born again, Christ birthed in you, His life giving seed reproducing a duplicate of the Father, begotten of Him, adopted into His kingdom by redemption of your spirit. A setting asides of yourself and giving birth to His seed.

You are written in the Lambs book of life. It is YOU this is written to and for and is about, it is about YOU and who YOU are in Him. It is written for no other reason than to lead YOU to that place where you can stand before God and He can say this is my son in whom I am well pleased.

All the examples you read of in the book is for YOU and about YOU and who YOU are.