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The whole book is based on this virgin birth. And please read closly what the whole thing of what I wrote instead of hitting on one little topic thet you dont understand and not read the rest as most of you do.
Again I will post this. Every single person who receives from God His Spirit is virgin to His Spirit until that seed be planted in you and you are no longer virgin. It doesnt come naturally it comes supernaturally. He is Spirit not a man. His seed be planted in you is the same seed He planted in Mary, and remember, He never changes, why haven’t you all given birth to that same Christ, Gods anointing by His same Spirit? That what was conceived in Mary is the same one conceived in all who will receive Him. God ejaculating in you His Spirit, His mind, His everything, and we being His bride do give birth to His seed. Christ formed in you. When are you guys going to put all this together that you read from the word and act on it instead of making excuses why you can’t have in you that what Mary had in her and Jesus had in Him and Paul and John and all of these?

The message in the virgin birth is Gods Spirit planted in you and you giving birth to the Christ within.

What makes you better than Mary that He isn’t able, or better put, not welcomed do that what He came for and that is to put into you His disposition. What makes you better than Jesus that you can’t be like Him? And this is exactly what you are telling me that it isn’t possible for you to have His same Spirit in you He put in Mary, and Jesus, and John, and Paul and all of these we read of.

Put it together folks! Why do you think it is paramount that His Spirit come to you and be in you and you give birth to the Christ that is supposed to be in you? Put it together, why would He want you to have the mind of Christ and why do you think He would want you to be one with Him He in you and you in Him as one. Put it together folks, why would he want you to be perfect even as He is? Why would all these things be said for you if He didnt want that of you?

You guys are not getting His message for you at all. It is YOU He seeks, It is YOU He came and gave His life so YOU may live His life, It is YOU that He comes and puts in you that which is Holy, and righteous and everything He stands for as a son or daughter of His. How can you be an ambassador if you do not believe you can have in you that what Jesus had in him?

Tie it together. The message in the cross is death to the flesh man an resurrection of the Spirit man, a new birth, Born again, Christ birthed in you, His life giving seed reproducing a duplicate of the Father, begotten of Him, adopted into His kingdom by redemption of your spirit. A setting asides of yourself and giving birth to His seed.

You are written in the Lambs book of life. It is YOU this is written to and for and is about, it is about YOU and who YOU are in Him. It is written for no other reason than to lead YOU to that place where you can stand before God and He can say this is my son in whom I am well pleased.

All the examples you read of in the book is for YOU and about YOU and who YOU are.
I hav no idea wa ur tryin to say its complicated weird n different gosple
 

lil_christian

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I don't butt heads over and over again with Christians who have good doctrine and read their Bible and pray.

, we have coffee and tea, would you like to join?
Sounds lovely :) of course I'd like to!
 
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MissCris

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Nobody is disagreeing that we are to receive the Holy Spirit and be Christ-like.

We ARE supposed to be dead to sin, alive to Christ.

We ARE supposed to put aside self, and live as Jesus lived.

The problem with your message, Gary, is that it makes zero allowance for the fact that our sinful flesh causes us to still struggle with sin, which is something that even the Bible allows for:

Romans, chapter 7- read it please. It's not very long.

Christians WILL struggle with sin, IN OUR FLESH!

If we are truly IN CHRIST, if Christ is truly IN US, then YES, we have the Spirit of God, and God purifies our spirits, our hearts and minds.

But the BODY, the FLESH, causes us to stumble!

It happens!

Gary, your message repeatedly implies that once we are IN CHRIST, once Christ is IN US, we will never again fall short of the Glory of God. Maybe that isn't what you mean, but that is how it sounds. And it's simply not true.

"Those who live according to the sinful nature have their minds set on what that nature desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires." -Romans 8:5

When we receive Christ in our hearts, we set our minds on what God desires- but that doesn't mean we will never struggle with our sinful flesh.

So if you are not, in fact, MEANING to preach PERFECTION (as in, once we accept Christ we ARE EXACTLY AS GOD IS), then please, please, PLEASE would you ALSO share with others WHY we need Jesus in the first place? And why we CONTINUE to need Him, even after we are saved?

If you're going to share Truth, share ALL of the Truth, please.
 

lil_christian

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Nobody is disagreeing that we are to receive the Holy Spirit and be Christ-like.

We ARE supposed to be dead to sin, alive to Christ.

We ARE supposed to put aside self, and live as Jesus lived.

The problem with your message, Gary, is that it makes zero allowance for the fact that our sinful flesh causes us to still struggle with sin, which is something that even the Bible allows for:

Romans, chapter 7- read it please. It's not very long.

Christians WILL struggle with sin, IN OUR FLESH!

If we are truly IN CHRIST, if Christ is truly IN US, then YES, we have the Spirit of God, and God purifies our spirits, our hearts and minds.

But the BODY, the FLESH, causes us to stumble!

It happens!

Gary, your message repeatedly implies that once we are IN CHRIST, once Christ is IN US, we will never again fall short of the Glory of God. Maybe that isn't what you mean, but that is how it sounds. And it's simply not true.

"Those who live according to the sinful nature have their minds set on what that nature desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires." -Romans 8:5

When we receive Christ in our hearts, we set our minds on what God desires- but that doesn't mean we will never struggle with our sinful flesh.

So if you are not, in fact, MEANING to preach PERFECTION (as in, once we accept Christ we ARE EXACTLY AS GOD IS), then please, please, PLEASE would you ALSO share with others WHY we need Jesus in the first place? And why we CONTINUE to need Him, even after we are saved?

If you're going to share Truth, share ALL of the Truth, please.
Thumbs up to you, MissCriss!
 
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Nobody is disagreeing that we are to receive the Holy Spirit and be Christ-like.

We ARE supposed to be dead to sin, alive to Christ.

We ARE supposed to put aside self, and live as Jesus lived.

The problem with your message, Gary, is that it makes zero allowance for the fact that our sinful flesh causes us to still struggle with sin, which is something that even the Bible allows for:

Romans, chapter 7- read it please. It's not very long.

Christians WILL struggle with sin, IN OUR FLESH!

If we are truly IN CHRIST, if Christ is truly IN US, then YES, we have the Spirit of God, and God purifies our spirits, our hearts and minds.

But the BODY, the FLESH, causes us to stumble!

It happens!

Gary, your message repeatedly implies that once we are IN CHRIST, once Christ is IN US, we will never again fall short of the Glory of God. Maybe that isn't what you mean, but that is how it sounds. And it's simply not true.

"Those who live according to the sinful nature have their minds set on what that nature desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires." -Romans 8:5

When we receive Christ in our hearts, we set our minds on what God desires- but that doesn't mean we will never struggle with our sinful flesh.

So if you are not, in fact, MEANING to preach PERFECTION (as in, once we accept Christ we ARE EXACTLY AS GOD IS), then please, please, PLEASE would you ALSO share with others WHY we need Jesus in the first place? And why we CONTINUE to need Him, even after we are saved?

If you're going to share Truth, share ALL of the Truth, please.

If you are in Christ and in Christ there is no sin. Why are you struggling?
 
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AnandaHya

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Care if i serve some?

of course, you know I have a tendency to spill. ;)

not a prob NotInChrist, you can join us too if you like.

don't know your theology but so far you seem like a decent guy ;)

Ms. Cris what is that saying about the word

"ASS-U-ME" ?
 
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MissCris

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If you are in Christ and in Christ there is no sin. Why are you struggling?
...is this the part where you claim to never feel any temptation whatsoever? Where you are going to tell us that the moment you began your walk IN CHRIST, you stopped doing ANYTHING wrong?
 

lil_christian

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...is this the part where you claim to never feel any temptation whatsoever? Where you are going to tell us that the moment you began your walk IN CHRIST, you stopped doing ANYTHING wrong?
Nooo not at all. They're just trying to achieve that....they're still workin' on that, MissCriss. They haven't done it yet.
 
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MissCris

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of course, you know I have a tendency to spill. ;)

not a prob NotInChrist, you can join us too if you like.

don't know your theology but so far you seem like a decent guy ;)

Ms. Cris what is that saying about the word

"ASS-U-ME" ?
Hahaha hmm...I don't know...:p
 

cronjecj

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Not a different gospel at all. Christ came to give to you Himslef, Christ in you.
Do you not know that Jesus was the only one ever that was born of a virgin?

Joseph and Mary had laid with each other for 1st time after Jesus was born.
 

cronjecj

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The whole book is based on this virgin birth. And please read closly what the whole thing of what I wrote instead of hitting on one little topic thet you dont understand and not read the rest as most of you do.
Again I will post this. Every single person who receives from God His Spirit is virgin to His Spirit until that seed be planted in you and you are no longer virgin. It doesnt come naturally it comes supernaturally. He is Spirit not a man. His seed be planted in you is the same seed He planted in Mary, and remember, He never changes, why haven’t you all given birth to that same Christ, Gods anointing by His same Spirit? That what was conceived in Mary is the same one conceived in all who will receive Him. God ejaculating in you His Spirit, His mind, His everything, and we being His bride do give birth to His seed. Christ formed in you. When are you guys going to put all this together that you read from the word and act on it instead of making excuses why you can’t have in you that what Mary had in her and Jesus had in Him and Paul and John and all of these?

The message in the virgin birth is Gods Spirit planted in you and you giving birth to the Christ within.

What makes you better than Mary that He isn’t able, or better put, not welcomed do that what He came for and that is to put into you His disposition. What makes you better than Jesus that you can’t be like Him? And this is exactly what you are telling me that it isn’t possible for you to have His same Spirit in you He put in Mary, and Jesus, and John, and Paul and all of these we read of.

Put it together folks! Why do you think it is paramount that His Spirit come to you and be in you and you give birth to the Christ that is supposed to be in you? Put it together, why would He want you to have the mind of Christ and why do you think He would want you to be one with Him He in you and you in Him as one. Put it together folks, why would he want you to be perfect even as He is? Why would all these things be said for you if He didnt want that of you?

You guys are not getting His message for you at all. It is YOU He seeks, It is YOU He came and gave His life so YOU may live His life, It is YOU that He comes and puts in you that which is Holy, and righteous and everything He stands for as a son or daughter of His. How can you be an ambassador if you do not believe you can have in you that what Jesus had in him?

Tie it together. The message in the cross is death to the flesh man an resurrection of the Spirit man, a new birth, Born again, Christ birthed in you, His life giving seed reproducing a duplicate of the Father, begotten of Him, adopted into His kingdom by redemption of your spirit. A setting asides of yourself and giving birth to His seed.

You are written in the Lambs book of life. It is YOU this is written to and for and is about, it is about YOU and who YOU are in Him. It is written for no other reason than to lead YOU to that place where you can stand before God and He can say this is my son in whom I am well pleased.

All the examples you read of in the book is for YOU and about YOU and who YOU are.
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MissCris

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Aw buddy...I'd remove that pic if I were you...
 

zone

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The whole book is based on this virgin birth. And please read closly what the whole thing of what I wrote instead of hitting on one little topic thet you dont understand and not read the rest as most of you do.
Again I will post this. Every single person who receives from God His Spirit is virgin to His Spirit until that seed be planted in you and you are no longer virgin. It doesnt come naturally it comes supernaturally. He is Spirit not a man. His seed be planted in you is the same seed He planted in Mary, and remember, He never changes, why haven’t you all given birth to that same Christ, Gods anointing by His same Spirit? That what was conceived in Mary is the same one conceived in all who will receive Him. God ejaculating in you His Spirit, His mind, His everything, and we being His bride do give birth to His seed. Christ formed in you. When are you guys going to put all this together that you read from the word and act on it instead of making excuses why you can’t have in you that what Mary had in her and Jesus had in Him and Paul and John and all of these?

The message in the virgin birth is Gods Spirit planted in you and you giving birth to the Christ within.

What makes you better than Mary that He isn’t able, or better put, not welcomed do that what He came for and that is to put into you His disposition. What makes you better than Jesus that you can’t be like Him? And this is exactly what you are telling me that it isn’t possible for you to have His same Spirit in you He put in Mary, and Jesus, and John, and Paul and all of these we read of.

Put it together folks! Why do you think it is paramount that His Spirit come to you and be in you and you give birth to the Christ that is supposed to be in you? Put it together, why would He want you to have the mind of Christ and why do you think He would want you to be one with Him He in you and you in Him as one. Put it together folks, why would he want you to be perfect even as He is? Why would all these things be said for you if He didnt want that of you?

You guys are not getting His message for you at all. It is YOU He seeks, It is YOU He came and gave His life so YOU may live His life, It is YOU that He comes and puts in you that which is Holy, and righteous and everything He stands for as a son or daughter of His. How can you be an ambassador if you do not believe you can have in you that what Jesus had in him?

Tie it together. The message in the cross is death to the flesh man an resurrection of the Spirit man, a new birth, Born again, Christ birthed in you, His life giving seed reproducing a duplicate of the Father, begotten of Him, adopted into His kingdom by redemption of your spirit. A setting asides of yourself and giving birth to His seed.

You are written in the Lambs book of life. It is YOU this is written to and for and is about, it is about YOU and who YOU are in Him. It is written for no other reason than to lead YOU to that place where you can stand before God and He can say this is my son in whom I am well pleased.

All the examples you read of in the book is for YOU and about YOU and who YOU are.

GNOSTIC
FALSE GOSPEL
FALSE TEACHER.

another christ.

REJECT.
 
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Abiding

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The whole book is based on this virgin birth. And please read closly what the whole thing of what I wrote instead of hitting on one little topic thet you dont understand and not read the rest as most of you do.
Again I will post this. Every single person who receives from God His Spirit is virgin to His Spirit until that seed be planted in you and you are no longer virgin. It doesnt come naturally it comes supernaturally. He is Spirit not a man. His seed be planted in you is the same seed He planted in Mary, and remember, He never changes, why haven’t you all given birth to that same Christ, Gods anointing by His same Spirit? That what was conceived in Mary is the same one conceived in all who will receive Him. God ejaculating in you His Spirit, His mind, His everything, and we being His bride do give birth to His seed. Christ formed in you. When are you guys going to put all this together that you read from the word and act on it instead of making excuses why you can’t have in you that what Mary had in her and Jesus had in Him and Paul and John and all of these?

The message in the virgin birth is Gods Spirit planted in you and you giving birth to the Christ within.

What makes you better than Mary that He isn’t able, or better put, not welcomed do that what He came for and that is to put into you His disposition. What makes you better than Jesus that you can’t be like Him? And this is exactly what you are telling me that it isn’t possible for you to have His same Spirit in you He put in Mary, and Jesus, and John, and Paul and all of these we read of.

Put it together folks! Why do you think it is paramount that His Spirit come to you and be in you and you give birth to the Christ that is supposed to be in you? Put it together, why would He want you to have the mind of Christ and why do you think He would want you to be one with Him He in you and you in Him as one. Put it together folks, why would he want you to be perfect even as He is? Why would all these things be said for you if He didnt want that of you?

You guys are not getting His message for you at all. It is YOU He seeks, It is YOU He came and gave His life so YOU may live His life, It is YOU that He comes and puts in you that which is Holy, and righteous and everything He stands for as a son or daughter of His. How can you be an ambassador if you do not believe you can have in you that what Jesus had in him?

Tie it together. The message in the cross is death to the flesh man an resurrection of the Spirit man, a new birth, Born again, Christ birthed in you, His life giving seed reproducing a duplicate of the Father, begotten of Him, adopted into His kingdom by redemption of your spirit. A setting asides of yourself and giving birth to His seed.

You are written in the Lambs book of life. It is YOU this is written to and for and is about, it is about YOU and who YOU are in Him. It is written for no other reason than to lead YOU to that place where you can stand before God and He can say this is my son in whom I am well pleased.

All the examples you read of in the book is for YOU and about YOU and who YOU are.

PURE FALSE TEACHING
1. to make small of the word of God....as always....live in the spirit(i in you...blah blah)
2. Redemption was to make you exactly like Jesus(blaspheme) Redemption was for forgiveness of sins.
3. Jesus had a new flesh body without tainted blood. He had no sin nature. WE do. Denial of His humaness
of which would disqualify Him to be our kinsman redeemer.
4. We are in the lambs book of life because He redeemed us with His blood....not because we have His Spirit
the Spirit was given for power and life....for an end...not the end in itself. And not why He came.
5. im tired and bored....i dont feel like spelling out all the false teachings this guy produces. Its just one big
dump of scriptural delusion.....ending with gnosticism.
 

zone

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PURE FALSE TEACHING
1. to make small of the word of God....as always....live in the spirit(i in you...blah blah)
2. Redemption was to make you exactly like Jesus(blaspheme) Redemption was for forgiveness of sins.
3. Jesus had a new flesh body without tainted blood. He had no sin nature. WE do. Denial of His humaness
of which would disqualify Him to be our kinsman redeemer.
4. We are in the lambs book of life because He redeemed us with His blood....not because we have His Spirit
the Spirit was given for power and life....for an end...not the end in itself. And not why He came.
5. im tired and bored....i dont feel like spelling out all the false teachings this guy produces. Its just one big
dump of scriptural delusion.....ending with gnosticism.
thank you for the patience and continuing to make sure, and to identify, comparing the false to the true.
i love you abiding.