Is being homosexual a choice?

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Is being homosexual a choice or is it the way God made them?

Could not the drunkard, liar, pervert, or any other sinner claim the same is true for them? Are we now to blame God for our own short-comings?

I guess the people are correct is making this statement, at least partially. God made us with a free will. He allows us to sin or not to sin. He does not make us sin, but He also does not stop us from sinning. So God made you with a free will, and it is your decision if you are going to sin or not.

Maybe God placed a carnal desire within each of us, just as He built us with the desire to seek Him. This could be our special sin, the one we enjoy the most in this world. This is the greatest temptation you have, this is the one you put down every day when you pick up your cross, deny yourself, and follow Jesus.

I just do not understand why people are blaming God for their sin(s)!!!
 
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I've always thought it was a bit of both. There are sins I am genetically predisposed to that I purposefully avoid triggering. Yes it is "how I am" but that does not mean I have some sort of golden excuse.
 
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Surely this is a question for genetics experts, not people having a guess on an internet forum?
 
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Ritter said:
I've always thought it was a bit of both. There are sins I am genetically predisposed to that I purposefully avoid triggering. Yes it is "how I am" but that does not mean I have some sort of golden excuse.
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I tend to agree with this, for the most part.

I used to think being gay was absolutely a choice, no way anyone was born that way. Now I think that in the same way that different people have different tastes in food or music or whatever, people tend to have different "tastes" in types of sin. So it's still a choice, but it's also something more at the same time.

Either way, it should never be excused.
 
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Well i know that everything we do can be because of choice but there are other things that affect how we are. I was friends with a guy who eventually revealed that he went out kind of "intrigued" by homosexuality, but then again I have another friend who I've caught crying a couple of times because he feels that he was born that way and doesn't want to be. Keep in mind that they are both Christians.

I'm sorry if the paragraph above is grammatically incorrect, it's late and I've had a long day
 
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JesusForever said:
Surely this is a question for genetics experts, not people having a guess on an internet forum?
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Isn't that the fun of an internet forum, opining on things you ordinarily have no business opining on?
 
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It's not really up for debate, it's been essentially proven by science that some people are genetically predisposed to being homosexual. Even if it had'nt been proven yet why would one choose to be gay when they know that in our current social and cultural climate that they are in for a life of bigotry and discrimination?
 
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Isn't that the fun of an internet forum, opining on things you ordinarily have no business opining on?
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True enough, but the danger is, people then rely on those responses, rather than the correct responses from the experts.
 
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JesusForever said:
Surely this is a question for genetics experts, not people having a guess on an internet forum?
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um for those who are genetically homosexual, do they have an excuse?
 
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It's not really up for debate, it's been essentially proven by science that some people are genetically predisposed to being homosexual. Even if it had'nt been proven yet why would one choose to be gay when they know that in our current social and cultural climate that they are in for a life of bigotry and discrimination?
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...what the heck does "essentially proven" mean? Totally proven? Absolutely proven? Mostly proven? Almost proven?
 
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So are you suggesting that people who have no choice to be born homosexual should be punished?
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Not at all, and keep in mind I'm not attacking you, I just thought typing "lol" to lighten the comment would be inappropriate, I was simply trying to find out your view on whether the genetically homosexual should try to become straight, in order to do as the Bible says?
 
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no they do not have an excuse to sin

and the so called experts, no nothing other than what they decide say is correct

do a little research on early medical practices, they say what they expect us to hear, it will always be this way

then years down the road, someone will disprove the earlier and propose something new
 
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So are we saying that homosexuality should be stopped whether or not a person was " born that way"? And if there is a trait that makes them homosexual, like with alcoholism, then are they somewhat excused?
 
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JesusForever said:
So are you suggesting that people who have no choice to be born homosexual should be punished?
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I guess, I'm curious if you have a reason as to why they should not if that is indeed ordered by God.
 
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Science is about evidence and refining theories to be more and more accurate. That is the best method we have for finding truth in genetics.
 
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inaweirdplace said:
So are we saying that homosexuality should be stopped whether or not a person was " born that way"? And if there is a trait that makes them homosexual, like with alcoholism, then are they somewhat excused?
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The bible prohibits drunkeness as well.
 
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inaweirdplace said:
So are we saying that homosexuality should be stopped whether or not a person was " born that way"? And if there is a trait that makes them homosexual, like with alcoholism, then are they somewhat excused?
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jimmydiggs said:
The bible prohibits drunkeness as well.
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But now days you are not allowed to tell the Truth, you might get someone upset

You must deny your carnal urges, this is very clear in the Gospels

REPENT, this is the part of Salvation everyone want to omit
 
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