The Parable of the Ten Virgins, a Condensed Study

[Psalm1]

And if some still think this is primarily a rapture parable, consider that Jesus told another parable in that same chapter, same Olivet Discourse, same setting — and it makes the same point from a completely different angle. The parable of the faithful and evil servant:

But if that evil servant says in his heart, 'My master is delaying his coming,' and begins to beat his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunkards, the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him and at an hour that he is not aware of, and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. — Matthew 24:48–51 (NKJV)

This servant is not an outsider or unbeliever. He is part of the master's household, given position and responsibility — yet his true character is revealed by the delay. Sound familiar? It is the foolish virgin all over again. Both knew the master was coming. Both had an outward position of belonging. Both were caught completely off guard. Both faced the same verdict of exclusion and judgment.

And notice Jesus does not call him an unbeliever at the end. He calls him a hypocrite — someone whose outside does not match his inside. A lamp with no oil.

Weeping and gnashing of teeth is the language Jesus consistently uses for final judgment — not for a believer temporarily left behind in a rapture scenario.

Both parables told back to back, to the same audience, make the same singular point. Neither is a rapture chart. Both are a mirror held to the heart asking one question:

If your master came home tonight, what would He find you doing?

Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect. — Matthew 24:44 (NKJV)

QUOTE
"This servant is not an outsider or unbeliever. He is part of the master's household, given position and responsibility — yet his true character is revealed by the delay. Sound familiar? It is the foolish virgin all over again. Both knew the master was coming. Both had an outward position of belonging. Both were caught completely off guard. Both faced the same verdict of exclusion and judgment."

I don't think you're making any sense here.
Because post tribbers believe the rapture happens, basically, at the white horses.
That would be after the 7 year tribulation.
Where that entire post trib rapture argument goes off the rails, is that the setting of every rapture verse is pretrib.

Every rapture verse is a pre-tribulation setting.
Another off the rails, is that in the 10 virgins parable, they go with the groom into the wedding chamber.
In the post tribber model, they never go into heaven. They erroneously do a u turn back to earth.
(A u turn back to Earth), but no, in the Virgin parable, the groom takes the wise TO HIS HOME IN HEAVEN. NOT TO their home on planet earth, but into the wedding chamber which is in heaven.

All components of the parable need no modifying.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

QUOTE
"This servant is not an outsider or unbeliever. He is part of the master's household, given position and responsibility — yet his true character is revealed by the delay. Sound familiar? It is the foolish virgin all over again. Both knew the master was coming. Both had an outward position of belonging. Both were caught completely off guard. Both faced the same verdict of exclusion and judgment."

I don't think you're making any sense here.
Because post tribbers believe the rapture happens, basically, at the white horses.
That would be after the 7 year tribulation.
Where that entire post trib rapture argument goes off the rails, is that the setting of every rapture verse is pretrib.

Every rapture verse is a pre-tribulation setting.
Another off the rails, is that in the 10 virgins parable, they go with the groom into the wedding chamber.
In the post tribber model, they never go into heaven. They erroneously do a u turn back to earth.
(A u turn back to Earth), but no, in the Virgin parable, the groom takes the wise TO HIS HOME IN HEAVEN. NOT TO their home on planet earth, but into the wedding chamber which is in heaven.

All components of the parable need no modifying.

You seem driven, like your time is short.... Do you think you're going to get a prize for causing a large numbrr of people to fall away when Jesus doesn't come for them before the end of the GT?

You're only going to cause the fall of people who don't belong to God. Your master won't be happy.

John 6:39 "And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all that he has given me, but raise them up at the last day."


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[Psalm1]

You seem driven, like your time is short.... Do you think you're going to get a prize for causing a large numbrr of people to fall away when Jesus doesn't come for them before the end of the GT?

You're only going to cause the fall of people who don't belong to God. Your master won't be happy.

John 6:39 "And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all that he has given me, but raise them up at the last day."


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Now the bible is bad?
It is my job to report what is there.
You general put downs are lame

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

Now the bible is bad?
It is my job to report what is there.
You general put downs are lame

You won't be able to fool God’s people, no matter how much you distort the Bible or try to discourage them. We have God the Father and Lord Jesus watching over us and the Holy Spirit guiding and protecting us from within with His truth. Plus God’s people are always praying fo each other.


It's really weird how driven you are to promote your false pre-triv teaching in every post, even when it isn't about the end times.

Why do you want people to believe the false pre-trib doctrine so badly? Do you get a prize for the number of people you decieve? Who does that for nothing??? Who is paying you to deceive people?


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[tablet123]

Mat 25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
Mat 25:2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.

There are true saints and hypocrites.

Mat 25:3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
Mat 25:4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.

Psa 119:105 NUN. Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.

Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

The foolish was not led of the Spirit and did not have the teaching of the Spirit.

The wise had the oil in their vessels, themselves, and the teaching of the Spirit.

Mat 25:5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
Mat 25:6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
Mat 25:7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.

Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

The foolish will fall short without the Spirit.

And without the Spirit there is no relationship with God.

Mat 25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
Mat 25:9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
Mat 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

A saint cannot give of their oil to another.

And where are they going to buy it which must mean stop being a hypocrite and correct yourself.

And they got caught in their hypocrisy.

But how did the foolish who were hypocrites know their lamp went out when hypocrites think they are right with God.

They started out trimming their lamps as if they are right and then they knew their lamp had gone out.

Why did they think they lacked and if they knew why did they not correct it.

I want to know how they knew they lacked.

Mat 25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
Mat 25:12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
Mat 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

2Ti 3:4 lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

They had a form of godliness.

They confessed, they believed, but they did not allow the Spirit to lead them because they would not give up the flesh but thought they were saved.

They could not correct it for they were ever learning and never able to come to the truth.

Which Jesus never knew them.

 

[vassal]

Mat 25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
Mat 25:2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.

There are true saints and hypocrites.

Mat 25:3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
Mat 25:4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.

Psa 119:105 NUN. Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.

Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

The foolish was not led of the Spirit and did not have the teaching of the Spirit.

The wise had the oil in their vessels, themselves, and the teaching of the Spirit.

Mat 25:5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
Mat 25:6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
Mat 25:7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.

Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

The foolish will fall short without the Spirit.

And without the Spirit there is no relationship with God.

Mat 25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
Mat 25:9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
Mat 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

A saint cannot give of their oil to another.

And where are they going to buy it which must mean stop being a hypocrite and correct yourself.

And they got caught in their hypocrisy.

But how did the foolish who were hypocrites know their lamp went out when hypocrites think they are right with God.

They started out trimming their lamps as if they are right and then they knew their lamp had gone out.

Why did they think they lacked and if they knew why did they not correct it.

I want to know how they knew they lacked.

Mat 25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
Mat 25:12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
Mat 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

2Ti 3:4 lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

They had a form of godliness.

They confessed, they believed, but they did not allow the Spirit to lead them because they would not give up the flesh but thought they were saved.

They could not correct it for they were ever learning and never able to come to the truth.

Which Jesus never knew them.

The midnight cry is what exposed them. When the moment of truth arrived they could no longer hide from reality. They trimmed their lamps with confidence at first — genuinely believing they were ready — but when they reached for a supply that was never truly there, the emptiness was suddenly undeniable.

The crisis did not create the problem. It simply revealed what was always there — or rather what was never there at all.

Jesus said it best:

For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known. (Matthew 10:26)

The lamp going out was not a surprise to God. It was only a surprise to them.

 

[Psalm1]

The midnight cry is what exposed them. When the moment of truth arrived they could no longer hide from reality. They trimmed their lamps with confidence at first — genuinely believing they were ready — but when they reached for a supply that was never truly there, the emptiness was suddenly undeniable.

The crisis did not create the problem. It simply revealed what was always there — or rather what was never there at all.

Jesus said it best:

For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known. (Matthew 10:26)

The lamp going out was not a surprise to God. It was only a surprise to them.

I almost hit the like button until you changed the parable to "they never had oil"

 

[Psalm1]

Mat 25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
Mat 25:2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.

There are true saints and hypocrites.

Mat 25:3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
Mat 25:4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.

Psa 119:105 NUN. Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.

Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

The foolish was not led of the Spirit and did not have the teaching of the Spirit.

The wise had the oil in their vessels, themselves, and the teaching of the Spirit.

Mat 25:5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
Mat 25:6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
Mat 25:7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.

Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

The foolish will fall short without the Spirit.

And without the Spirit there is no relationship with God.

Mat 25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
Mat 25:9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
Mat 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

A saint cannot give of their oil to another.

And where are they going to buy it which must mean stop being a hypocrite and correct yourself.

And they got caught in their hypocrisy.

But how did the foolish who were hypocrites know their lamp went out when hypocrites think they are right with God.

They started out trimming their lamps as if they are right and then they knew their lamp had gone out.

Why did they think they lacked and if they knew why did they not correct it.

I want to know how they knew they lacked.

Mat 25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
Mat 25:12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
Mat 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

2Ti 3:4 lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

They had a form of godliness.

They confessed, they believed, but they did not allow the Spirit to lead them because they would not give up the flesh but thought they were saved.

They could not correct it for they were ever learning and never able to come to the truth.

Which Jesus never knew them.

In the virgin parable " I never knew you" is not there.

It does not need changing.

 

[Psalm1]

You won't be able to fool God’s people, no matter how much you distort the Bible or try to discourage them. We have God the Father and Lord Jesus watching over us and the Holy Spirit guiding and protecting us from within with His truth. Plus God’s people are always praying fo each other.


It's really weird how driven you are to promote your false pre-triv teaching in every post, even when it isn't about the end times.

Why do you want people to believe the false pre-trib doctrine so badly? Do you get a prize for the number of people you decieve? Who does that for nothing??? Who is paying you to deceive people?


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Maybe post an item that I said that was false.

Or stop falsely accusing the brethren.
You are on a mission against everything I say, but have no idea whatvexactly it is.
Neither you or vassel can pinpoint anything.

 

[Psalm1]

You won't be able to fool God’s people, no matter how much you distort the Bible or try to discourage them. We have God the Father and Lord Jesus watching over us and the Holy Spirit guiding and protecting us from within with His truth. Plus God’s people are always praying fo each other.


It's really weird how driven you are to promote your false pre-triv teaching in every post, even when it isn't about the end times.

Why do you want people to believe the false pre-trib doctrine so badly? Do you get a prize for the number of people you decieve? Who does that for nothing??? Who is paying you to deceive people?


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So sad, a driven person that hates a segment of the body of christ.

News flash to you and vassel: the bible destroys false doctrine.
The 10 virgin parable needs none of you guys changes.

When I listed the facts of the parable All you or vassel could do was chant:
"Psalm1 bad, Psalm1 bad, Psalm1 bad."

 

[Psalm1]

Rebuilder 455 said.
""Yes all 10 are believers.
What link was this taken from.
Post the link.

All 10 had oil
All 10 had light.
All 10 had lamps.
All 10 were waiting for Jesus.
All 10 born again believers.
Half taken, the same 50% Jesus used in his previous rapture analogy with Noah in the ones taken before tge flood.

Both stories in a pretrib setting.
Half taken in a pretrib setting.""

All facts.
All declared in the 10 virgin parable.

Any postribs care to go against the bible?

"Psalm1 bad, Psalm1 bad, Psalm1 bad."
SMH.

There you go postribbers.
I saved you the trouble of your "well thought out answers" to bible facts.

Joke.
No ability to debate facts.

 

[Psalm1]

You won't be able to fool God’s people, no matter how much you distort the Bible or try to discourage them. We have God the Father and Lord Jesus watching over us and the Holy Spirit guiding and protecting us from within with His truth. Plus God’s people are always praying fo each other.


It's really weird how driven you are to promote your false pre-triv teaching in every post, even when it isn't about the end times.

Why do you want people to believe the false pre-trib doctrine so badly? Do you get a prize for the number of people you decieve? Who does that for nothing??? Who is paying you to deceive people?


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Bring a quote or a statement by me that is false you lying deciever.

Bring one.
Stop your little general accusations

Either debate substance, or take your little stalking, lying baloney, personal attack accusations elsewhere.

Either get real or off to "ignore land", you and lies will go.

It is against the rules to follow members around just to spew accusations against them personally.

Ahem....troll award

 

[Psalm1]

The parable of the ten virgins was not primarily about the rapture. The rapture debate — pretrib, midtrib, posttrib — came centuries later as a theological framework. Jesus had one driving purpose when He told this parable and He stated it plainly at the very end:

Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming. — Matthew 25:13 (NKJV)

The main goal was a personal warning about readiness. Jesus was addressing people who already identified as believers — people with lamps, people waiting, people who called Him Lord — and He was telling them that outward religious appearance is not the same as genuine inner relationship with Him. The oil is the issue. Not timing. Not theological categories. Oil — the Holy Spirit truly dwelling within a person.

The most sobering proof that this is not a rapture parable is what Jesus said to the five shut out:

Assuredly, I say to you, I do not know you. — Matthew 25:12 (NKJV)

That is not a rapture statement. That is a salvation statement. Jesus was warning that an entire category of religious people who look ready, talk ready, and feel ready will discover at His coming that they never truly knew Him at a deep and real level.

The parable has one message. Stay close to God. Keep your oil fresh.
Do not assume. Be ready.​

The virgin parable is the groom gathering the bride.
Her being ready is inferred and declared, but in NO WAY is it the main subject


It is like saying the school bus picked up the kids, and the bus, or the busses destination, have nothing to do with it.

Them being ready is beyond obvious.
Them missing the bus are fools.

 

[homwardbound]

The Parable of the Ten Virgins — Condensed Study​

Matthew 25:1–13 (NKJV)

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The Text​

Then the kingdom of heaven shall be likened to ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. Now five of them were wise, and five were foolish. Those who were foolish took their lamps and took no oil with them, but the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. But while the bridegroom was delayed, they all slumbered and slept. And at midnight a cry was heard: 'Behold, the bridegroom is coming; go out to meet him!' Then all those virgins arose and trimmed their lamps. And the foolish said to the wise, 'Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.' But the wise answered, 'No, lest there should not be enough for us and you; but go rather to those who sell, and buy for yourselves.' And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding; and the door was shut. Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, 'Lord, Lord, open to us!' But he answered, 'Assuredly, I say to you, I do not know you.' Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming. — Matthew 25:1–13 (NKJV)

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Background & Characters​

This parable is set against the picture of a first-century Jewish wedding where bridesmaids had one role — to escort the bridegroom with lit lamps into the celebration. No lit lamp meant no entry. Jesus uses this most joyous of occasions to describe the most anticipated event in history: His return.

The Bridegroom is Jesus Christ. He identified Himself this way directly:

Can the friends of the bridegroom mourn as long as the bridegroom is with them? But the days will come when the bridegroom will be taken away from them. — Matthew 9:15 (NKJV)​

The Ten Virgins represent professing Christians — not unbelievers, but people who identify with the faith, carry lamps, and are waiting for the Lord. The parable is not about believers versus unbelievers. It is about genuine faith versus superficial faith.

The Lamps represent outward Christian profession — church attendance, religious language, visible participation in the faith community. Both groups had lamps. It was not enough.

The Oil represents the Holy Spirit — the inner, genuine, transforming work of God in a person's soul. The prophet Zechariah confirmed this symbol when he saw the lampstand fed by flowing oil and heard:

'Not by might nor by power, but by My Spirit,' says the Lord of hosts. — Zechariah 4:6 (NKJV)​

Oil cannot be borrowed. It cannot be transferred. It must be personally and continually received through genuine relationship with God.

The Extra Vessels the wise carried represent a deep, sustained inner reservoir built over time through prayer, repentance, surrender, and living faith.

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The Delay, The Cry, and The Tragedy​

All ten fell asleep during the long wait — not just the foolish. The difference was what they had prepared before sleeping. Jesus warned of exactly this drift:

Lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that Day come on you unexpectedly. — Luke 21:34 (NKJV)​

When the midnight cry came — sudden, unexpected, in the darkest hour — the foolish found their lamps going out. They asked for oil and were refused, not out of selfishness but because inner spiritual life cannot be transferred. No one can give you their walk with God.

The bridegroom arrived while they sought oil elsewhere. The door shut. Their cry of "Lord, Lord, open to us" was met with the most devastating words in Scripture:

Assuredly, I say to you, I do not know you. — Matthew 25:12 (NKJV)​

Jesus had already warned this would happen:

Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven... And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me.' — Matthew 7:21–23 (NKJV)​

Religious activity — even miraculous works done in His name — cannot substitute for truly knowing Him. Like the seed on stony ground:

He has no root in himself, but endures only for a while. For when tribulation or persecution arises because of the word, immediately he stumbles. — Matthew 13:21 (NKJV)​

No root. No oil. No depth. The lamp goes out.

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The End Times We Are Living In​

This parable sits inside the Olivet Discourse — Jesus' own teaching on the signs of the end. He intended it specifically for the generation that would see those signs converge:

Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of sorrows. — Matthew 24:7–8 (NKJV)​

And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. — Matthew 24:12 (NKJV)​

We are that generation. Wars, moral collapse, global pestilence, and the Gospel reaching every nation through technology are all converging simultaneously. And the sign Jesus emphasized most — the fig tree representing Israel — has been fulfilled:

When its branch has already become tender and puts forth leaves, you know that summer is near. So you also, when you see all these things, know that it is near — at the doors! — Matthew 24:32–33 (NKJV)​

Israel's rebirth as a nation in 1948, after 2,000 years of dispersion, is one of the greatest prophetic fulfillments in history. To the last days Church — comfortable, presumptuous, unaware — Jesus speaks directly through Revelation:

Because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth. Because you say, 'I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing' — and do not know that you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked. — Revelation 3:16–17 (NKJV)​

This is a lamp going out. And yet He immediately follows with:

Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me. — Revelation 3:20 (NKJV)​

The oil is still available. But the door will not always be open.

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How to Get Ready​

Repent and surrender daily. If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow Me. — Luke 9:23 (NKJV)

Seek God wholeheartedly. You will seek Me and find Me, when you search for Me with all your heart. — Jeremiah 29:13 (NKJV)

Pray persistently. Men always ought to pray and not lose heart. — Luke 18:1 (NKJV)

Live in the Word. Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God. — Matthew 4:4 (NKJV)

Set your priorities on eternity. But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you. — Matthew 6:33 (NKJV)

Stay in genuine community. Exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching. — Hebrews 10:25 (NKJV)

Walk in obedience. If you love Me, keep My commandments. — John 14:15 (NKJV)

Examine yourself honestly. By this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. — 1 John 2:3 (NKJV)

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Final Word​

The door will shut. Jesus was clear:

When once the Master of the house has risen up and shut the door, and you begin to stand outside and knock, saying, 'Lord, Lord, open for us,' He will answer, 'I do not know you, where you are from.' — Luke 13:25 (NKJV)​

But that same Master says right now:

Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. — Matthew 11:28 (NKJV)​

The bridegroom has not yet come. The midnight cry has not yet sounded. There is still time — but not unlimited time — to fill your lamp with oil.

Surely I am coming quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus! — Revelation 22:20 (NKJV)

Do not wait. Do not assume. Get ready today.

Thank you Vassal and be willing, then one, anyone will begin to see new from God for them not ever against them
These will be in with Father and Son to be taught what the new born new life is of love and mercy to all is
Humility one, anyone learns and does without any flesh fights at all
Seeing what Jesus did first, no flesh fight back, not even after risen Col 2 Amazing, Lord teach me about me, my selfishness to lay that down as dead Romans 6 thank you

 

[Dino246]

Ok... Now this is why your view of eschatology effects your entire view of scripture.
The Post tribbers have such a polluted starting place, and try to make that fit every single scripture in the entire Bible.

While you may disagree vigorously with a certain eschatological perspective, using denigrating terms is not a good way to invite discussion and is inherently poor at convincing people that your position is sound… or even worth considering.

 

[Psalm1]

Thank you Vassal and be willing, then one, anyone will begin to see new from God for them not ever against them
These will be in with Father and Son to be taught what the new born new life is of love and mercy to all is
Humility one, anyone learns and does without any flesh fights at all
Seeing what Jesus did first, no flesh fight back, not even after risen Col 2 Amazing, Lord teach me about me, my selfishness to lay that down as dead Romans 6 thank you

Amen!
The virgins going to heaven with the groom!!!
Pretrib rapture!!!!

 

[Psalm1]

While you may disagree vigorously with a certain eschatological perspective, using denigrating terms is not a good way to invite discussion and is inherently poor at convincing people that your position is sound… or even worth considering.

Maybe my pushback should not be pushback.

I let them decide the tempo.
Anytime I encounter polite thoughtful study I engage them in like manner.


I can debate quite civil.
I used to bow out and just let all their nastiness slide.
Now I DEFINATELY push back.
.....and MAKE them go against the word.

Are you referring to my statement that postribbers have a polluted starting place ?

If that offends , then I would definately not fault myself, but whoever can not debate without overreacting in such fraility..

The postribbers themselves affirm that not only do they not have a biblical basis, but actually champion and celebrate that they got their position from dead men with limited knowledge and revelation.

Ahem....a polluted starting place indeed.

My starting place is studying both sides of the rapture debate rigorously.
I can actually defend their position better than they can.
I know every one of their talking points.

The problem is....when there is an "impossibility ", then that concept becomes a worthless rabbit trail.

Well 90% of their concepts are impossible.
Literally impossible.

That is WHY they can not go toe to toe in civil debate.
In their defense though , I do understand their embarrasement and frustration, when YEARS OF "STUDY" ,of their workbook , is demolished by God's word.

I do totally understand the basis of them going personal.
It is out of embarrassment and frustration.

Nonetheless, one out of a hundred or so, do indeed debate civily.

 

[Dino246]

Maybe my pushback should not be pushback.

I let them decide the tempo.
Anytime I encounter polite thoughtful study I engage them in like manner.


I can debate quite civil.
I used to bow out and just let all their nastiness slide.
Now I DEFINATELY push back.
.....and MAKE them go against the word.

Are you referring to my statement that postribbers have a polluted starting place ?

If that offends , then I would definately not fault myself, but whoever can not debate without overreacting in such fraility..

The postribbers themselves affirm that not only do they not have a biblical basis, but actually champion and celebrate that they got their position from dead men with limited knowledge and revelation.

Ahem....a polluted starting place indeed.

My starting place is studying both sides of the rapture debate rigorously.
I can actually defend their position better than they can.
I know every one of their talking points.

The problem is....when there is an "impossibility ", then that concept becomes a worthless rabbit trail.

Well 90% of their concepts are impossible.
Literally impossible.

That is WHY they can not go toe to toe in civil debate.
In their defense though , I do understand their embarrasement and frustration, when YEARS OF "STUDY" ,of their workbook , is demolished by God's word.

I do totally understand the basis of them going personal.
It is out of embarrassment and frustration.

Nonetheless, one out of a hundred or so, do indeed debate civily.

Clearly, you do not understand "civil".... and the word is "definitely".

 

[Psalm1]

Clearly, you do not understand "civil".... and the word is "definitely".

I will take all your correktion under advisement.

Nah
You gave no example of any incivility on my part. .
Your quote by me had "polluted starting place" as some great incivility.
Look , if that is some big deal to you, then don't read anything, because I am being told by postribbers I am not saved and spewed on with their name calling.
Take authority over someone else.
Mr speling police .