The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?

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Gideon300 said:
If you actually knew what God said to gentile believers, then you would have a point. Your spiritual blindness keeps you bound to dead legalism. You are clueless even as to why Adam and Eve fell. I won't explain further. You are willfully blind, so there is no point.
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You are a modern pharisee. SB is right, you just don't like what she says as it it makes you uncomfortable and means you would have to change. The whole purpose of the law is for us to change our hearts.
 
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Inquisitor said:
Exodus 24:7-8
Then he took the book of the covenant and read it in the hearing of the people; and they said,
“All that the Lord has spoken we will do, and we will be obedient!” So Moses took the blood and
sprinkled it on the people, and said, “Behold the blood of the covenant, which the Lord has made
with you in accordance with all these words.”

After the covenant had been established between God and Israel and the blood, had been
sprinkled on the people.

Then your quotation takes place.

Exodus 24:12
Now the Lord said to Moses, “Come up to Me on the mountain and remain there, and I will give you
the stone tablets with the law and the commandment, which I have written for their instruction.”

Nice try, but the covenant had already been established on the spoken law which Moses wrote.

Your stone tablets are an afterthought.
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So instead of admitting you were wrong, you just changed your argument.

You can tell God His Testimony written personally by God is an "afterthought" The Testimony of God that tells us to only worship Him and not murder our neighbor. The Ten Commandments were spoken directly by God Exo20:1-17 before the law of Moses was given, so hardly an "afterthought". They started way before Mt Sinai according to the Testimony of God Exo20:11

I can't even begin to understand or comprehend this statement that the Ten Commandments that His blood atones for is an afterthought.

So I am going to agree to disagree and God will sort it out in His time.
 
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vassal said:
You are a modern pharisee. SB is right, you just don't like what she says as it it makes you uncomfortable and means you would have to change. The whole purpose of the law is for us to change our hearts.
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I thought the purpose of the law was for the Spirit to change our hearts.
 
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vassal said:
Sometimes it becomes necessary to say these things so truth can prevail.
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Some have made the same claim concerning you. Who spoke with authority? But making such claims was not my point. You hypocrisy was. You claim someone to be pharisaical while acting pharisaically.
 
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SabbathBlessing said:
Sure. God is not going to judge someone like in the dark ages when they had no access to the word of God as He would us, where we have the word of God. This principle is found in our Bibles

Luke 12:48 — more knowledge = more responsibility
Romans 2:12–16 — judged according to the law or conscience you had
Acts 17:30 — God was patient with ignorance, but now calls people to respond to the truth
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Those who have accepted Christ and live for Him are not judged by the law. You either choose Him or you choose judgement.
 
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pinebeach said:
Those who have accepted Christ and live for Him are not judged by the law. You either choose Him or you choose judgement.
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If we choose Him, we serve Him, the way He asks Isa 56:6 not on our terms.

Everyone is Judged by God

2Cor5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.

He is the one deciding those who really choose Him or those who say Lord Lord, but do their own will.
 
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pinebeach said:
Yet the op continues with the delusional presentation of the 10 commandments being the covenant. for 231 pages now. :cautious:
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A covenant is an agreement, the agreement changed, it had to because it was void since the people broke it. So God wants to be in a covenant with His people and wrote a New Covenant, not like the first one because God placed His laws from being on stone, to being on the heart- same laws, just a different and better location, internal Heb8:10 2Cor3:3 why it’s established on better promises and not all new laws. Heb8:6 God makes no mistakes, the mistakes have always been the harden heart of man. God’s laws are perfect Psa 19:7 holy Rom7:12 how could they not be, they were written by the Holy Spirit. Exo31:18. Sadly many people still reject God’s covenant because they don’t like the condition Rom8:7-8 so those who are in a Covenant with God enter by faith. They allow God to govern their life and not man and serve Him above all Isa 56:6
 
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SabbathBlessing said:
If you choose Him, you serve Him, the way He asks Isa 56:6 not on our terms.
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And foreigners who bind themselves to the Lord
to minister to him,
to love the name of the Lord,
and to be his servants,
all who keep the Sabbath without desecrating it
and who hold fast to my covenant—

And yet you and several others here continually choose the law. That puts you under the judgement of God. The fact you and a few others actually teach the law rather than Christ, and present OT scripture addressed to the Israelites, is illustrative of people who do not understand salvation as God has given it to us.

The covenant is through Jesus; He fulfilled the Law, all of it. What you call unclean, is now made clean through His blood. People do not go to hell, as you have stated more than once, if they go to church on Sunday rather than Saturday. That, is a pernicious lie repeated by those in deception.

I am not bothering with your last post. Garbage in, garbage out. Take out your own trash
 
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SabbathBlessing said:
A covenant is an agreement, the agreement changed, it had to because it was void since the people broke it. So God wants to be in a covenant with His people and wrote a New Covenant, not like the first one because God placed His laws from being on stone, to being on the heart- same laws, just a different and better location, internal Heb8:10 2Cor3:3 why it’s established on better promises and not all new laws. Heb8:6 God makes no mistakes, the mistakes have always been the harden heart of man. God’s laws are perfect Psa 19:7 holy Rom7:12 how could they not be, they were written by the Holy Spirit. Exo31:18. Sadly many people still reject God’s covenant because they don’t like the condition Rom8:7-8 so those who are in a Covenant with God enter by faith. They allow God to govern their life and not man and serve Him above all Isa 56:6
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It wasn't changed. It was ended. A new covenant was given.
 
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SabbathBlessing said:
A covenant is an agreement, the agreement changed, it had to because it was void
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Thank you. Now that you have admitted that, please "cease and desist" your otherwise endless ranting against saving faith apart from the works of the Law.
 
vassal said:
You are a modern pharisee. SB is right, you just don't like what she says as it it makes you uncomfortable and means you would have to change. The whole purpose of the law is for us to change our hearts.
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2Ti 2:24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,
 
pinebeach said:
And foreigners who bind themselves to the Lord
to minister to him,
to love the name of the Lord,
and to be his servants,
all who keep the Sabbath without desecrating it
and who hold fast to my covenant—

And yet you and several others here continually choose the law. That puts you under the judgement of God. The fact you and a few others actually teach the law rather than Christ, and present OT scripture addressed to the Israelites, is illustrative of people who do not understand salvation as God has given it to us.

The covenant is through Jesus; He fulfilled the Law, all of it. What you call unclean, is now made clean through His blood. People do not go to hell, as you have stated more than once, if they go to church on Sunday rather than Saturday. That, is a pernicious lie repeated by those in deception.

I am not bothering with your last post. Garbage in, garbage out. Take out your own trash
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Not sure what translation you are using but here is a better one- but even with yours what professed Christian doesn’t want to bind themselves to the LORD.

Isa 56:6 “Also the sons of the foreigner (Gentiles)
Who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him,
And to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants—
Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And holds fast My covenant

We either serve the LORD or by default are serving another- His invitation is for everyone- all are called, few chosen because few respond to the call. They want all of the Blessings God’s brings, but not on His terms Isa 56:2, but theirs. That’s been the issue since the beginning- our will over God’s. This is what cost the Israelites out of their inheritance Eze20:15-16 why in the NT we are told not to harden our heart Heb3:7-19 to the same example of disobedience Heb4:11

I won’t respond to your last statement, its really a reflection of where someone is spiritually, and I guess a person not interested in reasoning in a Christian manner- so I will just agree to disagree and it will sort out in God’s time.
 
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