The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?

[vassal]

All I can say at this point is that God is very particular with His instructions. All of them matter and all of them are given for a reason. To illustrate, let us look at Moses in the desert when he struck the rock for water.

The children of Israel were thirsty and complaining in the wilderness. God gave Moses a clear and specific instruction. He told him to speak to the rock and water would flow from it. Simple. Clear. Specific. Here is what God said:

Take the rod and gather the assembly together thou and Aaron thy brother and speak ye unto the rock before their eyes and it shall give forth his water and thou shalt bring forth to them water out of the rock so thou shalt give the congregation and their beasts drink. (Numbers 20:8)

Speak to the rock. That was the instruction. But Moses was frustrated with the people and instead of speaking to the rock he struck it twice with his rod:

And Moses lifted up his hand and with his rod he smote the rock twice and the water came out abundantly and the congregation drank and their beasts also. (Numbers 20:11)

Now here is where it gets deeply sobering. The water still came out. The miracle still happened. The people still drank. By every outward measure it looked like a success. But God's response was immediate and devastating:

And the Lord spake unto Moses and Aaron because ye believed me not to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel therefore ye shall not bring this congregation into the land which I have given them. (Numbers 20:12)

Moses who had walked with God for decades, who had stood before Pharaoh, who had parted the Red Sea, who had received the Ten Commandments on the mountain, who had interceded for Israel time and time again was told he would not enter the promised land. Not because the miracle failed. Not because the people did not get water. But because he did not follow God's instruction precisely as given.

Think about that for a moment. The outcome looked the same from the outside. Water came out of the rock either way. But God said Moses had not sanctified Him in the eyes of the people. The way you obey matters just as much as whether you obey. God is not just interested in the result. He is interested in the precise obedience that reflects trust in His word and honor for His character.

And this was not the only time God demonstrated how seriously He takes precise obedience to His instructions.

Think about Nadab and Abihu the sons of Aaron the high priest. God had given detailed and specific instructions about how fire was to be offered before Him in the tabernacle. But these two priests decided to offer what Scripture calls strange fire:

And Nadab and Abihu the sons of Aaron took either of them his censer and put fire therein and put incense thereon and offered strange fire before the Lord which he commanded them not. And there went out fire from the Lord and devoured them and they died before the Lord. (Leviticus 10:1-2)

They were priests. Sons of the high priest. They were in the right place doing what looked like the right thing. But they substituted their own method for God's specific instruction and the consequence was immediate and final. God then said to Aaron through Moses:

I will be sanctified in them that come nigh me and before all the people I will be glorified. (Leviticus 10:3)

God will be sanctified in the way He specifies. Not in the way that seems convenient or reasonable or close enough to us.

Think also about King Saul who was told by God through the prophet Samuel to completely destroy the Amalekites and everything belonging to them. Saul went to battle and won the victory but decided to keep the best of the sheep and oxen and spare the Amalekite king Agag. When Samuel confronted him Saul actually said he had obeyed God and that the animals were kept to sacrifice to the Lord. It sounded reasonable. It even sounded religious. But Samuel's response cuts to the heart of this entire discussion:

Hath the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices as in obeying the voice of the Lord? Behold to obey is better than sacrifice and to hearken than the fat of rams. For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry because thou hast rejected the word of the Lord he hath also rejected thee from being king. (1 Samuel 15:22-23)

To obey is better than sacrifice. Saul thought he was honoring God with those animals. He thought close enough was good enough. God called it rebellion and it cost him his kingdom.

Now bring all of this back to the Sabbath. God did not say rest on a day that feels convenient to you or on the day your church tradition has chosen or on whatever day fits your schedule. He was specific. He was precise. He embedded the Sabbath into the very rhythm of creation itself before any law was given, before Israel existed, before Moses was born:

And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. (Genesis 2:2-3)

God blessed the seventh day. God sanctified the seventh day. Not a day of your choosing. The seventh day. And when He wrote the commandment on tablets of stone with His own finger He was equally specific:

Remember the sabbath day to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour and do all thy work but the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God. (Exodus 20:8-10)

The seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God. Not the first day. Not any day that feels spiritual to you. The seventh day specifically.

And Jesus Himself confirmed that not one detail of what God commanded would be changed:

For verily I say unto you till heaven and earth pass away one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law till all be fulfilled. (Matthew 5:18)

A jot and a tittle are the smallest marks in the Hebrew alphabet. Jesus was saying that not even the tiniest detail of what God commanded has been set aside. Not the day. Not the method. Not the precision.

The lesson of Moses, of Nadab and Abihu, of King Saul is the same lesson running through all of Scripture. God's instructions are not suggestions. They are not starting points from which we can improvise our own version that seems close enough. They are precise expressions of His character and His holiness and He takes them seriously even when we do not fully understand why.

The water came out of the rock when Moses struck it. But Moses paid a devastating price for the substitution. The Sabbath blessing may feel present on whatever day you choose. But the question God is asking is the same one He asked Moses, the same one He asked Nadab and Abihu, the same one He asked Saul:

Did you do what I said or did you do what seemed good to you?

And the God who sanctified the seventh day from the foundation of the world is still asking that question today.

God does not Change. For our own good and the good of everyone, God wants we do his will and not our own. Scripture is clear about it. What difference a day makes? to God it matters deeply.

 

[SabbathBlessing]

Great post @vassal !

What you put your finger one is exactly what happened with the fall of mankind.

After God made the heaven and earth and everything in it, He made man in His image and likeness and than rested on the seventh day. God blessed the seventh day, sanctified and named it, the Sabbath. Everything God did at Creation was for man, including the Sabbath made for man. Mark2:27-28 God doesn't need to rest, He does not tire, He does not need to make a day holy because He is holy, He does not need sanctification, the Sabbath was all done for man as a gift to humanity to rest in God's creative and redemptive work. Keeping the Sabbath points us back to Creation, before sin, when God made everything for us without us. Why we are told to worship only this God and a reminder in the last days people people have followed another master Rev14:7 Exo20:11

The only job Adam and Eve had was to keep what God created and made. That would include maintaining the garden and resting with God on the seventh day Sabbath.

Gen 2:15Then the Lord God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to tend and keep it

God gave them clear instructions, you can eat from every tree but one.

The devil put doubt in their mind

Gen 3:2 And the woman said to the serpent, “We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden; 3 but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said, ‘You shall not eat it, nor shall you touch it, lest you die.’ ”

4 Then the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. (the opposite of what God said)5 For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

Do you really think God cared about a tree? They could eat from the abundance of trees but not one. This was the difference between maintaining their robe of righteousness and eating from the Tree of Life and being thrown out of the garden separated from God. It was really a test of loyalty.

Why do we think God does not care about the only day that He set aside from Creation that comes with the power of His blessings and sanctification, because we can't do this ourselves. Isa66:17 God is very specific for a reason. He cared about 1 tree, He cares about His written spoken will and Testimony Exo31:18 the holy day of the LORD Isa58:13 , the Sabbath of the LORD that is on the seventh day Exo20:10 that He warned us His adversary would change. Dan7:25 and we see this in history plainly.

It is well to remind the Presbyterians, Baptists, Methodists, and all other Christians, that the Bible does not support them anywhere in their observance of Sunday. Sunday is an institution of the Roman Catholic Church, and those who observe the day observe a commandment of the Catholic Church.
—Priest Brady, in an address, reported in the Elizabeth, NJ ‘News’ on March 18, 1903.

Question: Which is the Sabbath day?
Answer: Saturday is the Sabbath day.

Question: Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
Answer: We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday.
—Rev. Peter Geiermann C.SS.R., The Convert’s Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, p. 50

... you may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctify.
—The Faith of Our Fathers, by James Cardinal Gibbons, Archbishop of Baltimore, 88th edition, page 89. Originally published in 1876, republished and Copyright 1980 by TAN Books and Publishers, Inc., pages 72-73.

If Protestants would follow the Bible, they would worship God on the Sabbath Day. In keeping the Sunday they are following a law of the Catholic Church.
—Albert Smith, Chancellor of the Archdiocese of Baltimore, replying for the Cardinal, in a letter dated February 10, 1920.

Our only safeguard it to abide in Christ, keep His commandments the way He said and allow Him to Shepard us. He will only lead us on the narrow path back to the Tree of Life

Rev 22:14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.

God said Remember- lets not let the devil and deceive us and put doubt in our minds to what God says. God only cares about our best interest, the devil wants to destroy our relationship from God. Jesus said join yourselves to Me, keep the Sabbath and invitation to everyone Isa56:6 don't let what the devil has done for centuries and put doubt in our minds to what the LORD says. Don't let Him take our blessing! Isa56:2

 

[SabbathBlessing]

Great post @vassal !

What you put your finger one is exactly what happened with the fall of mankind.

After God made the heaven and earth and everything in it, He made man in His image and likeness and than rested on the seventh day. God blessed the seventh day, sanctified and named it, the Sabbath. Everything God did at Creation was for man, including the Sabbath made for man. Mark2:27-28 God doesn't need to rest, He does not tire, He does not need to make a day holy because He is holy, He does not need sanctification, the Sabbath was all done for man as a gift to humanity to rest in God's creative and redemptive work. Keeping the Sabbath points us back to Creation, before sin, when God made everything for us without us. Why we are told to worship only this God and a reminder in the last days people people have followed another master Rev14:7 Exo20:11

The only job Adam and Eve had was to keep what God created and made. That would include maintaining the garden and resting with God on the seventh day Sabbath.

Gen 2:15Then the Lord God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to tend and keep it

God gave them clear instructions, you can eat from every tree but one.

The devil put doubt in their mind

Gen 3:2 And the woman said to the serpent, “We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden; 3 but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said, ‘You shall not eat it, nor shall you touch it, lest you die.’ ”

4 Then the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. (the opposite of what God said)5 For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

Do you really think God cared about a tree? They could eat from the abundance of trees but not one. This was the difference between maintaining their robe of righteousness and eating from the Tree of Life and being thrown out of the garden separated from God. It was really a test of loyalty.

Why do we think God does not care about the only day that He set aside from Creation that comes with the power of His blessings and sanctification, because we can't do this ourselves. Isa66:17 God is very specific for a reason. He cared about 1 tree, He cares about His written spoken will and Testimony Exo31:18 the holy day of the LORD Isa58:13 , the Sabbath of the LORD that is on the seventh day Exo20:10 that He warned us His adversary would change. Dan7:25 and we see this in history plainly.






Our only safeguard it to abide in Christ, keep His commandments the way He said and allow Him to Shepard us. He will only lead us on the narrow path back to the Tree of Life

Rev 22:14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.

God said Remember- lets not let the devil and deceive us and put doubt in our minds to what God says. God only cares about our best interest, the devil wants to destroy our relationship from God. Jesus said join yourselves to Me, keep the Sabbath and invitation to everyone Isa56:6 don't let what the devil has done for centuries and put doubt in our minds to what the LORD says. Don't let Him take our blessing! Isa56:2

Correction

Don't let him (the devil) take our blessing! Isa56:2 Psa 37:22

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

All I can say at this point is that God is very particular with His instructions. All of them matter and all of them are given for a reason. To illustrate, let us look at Moses in the desert when he struck the rock for water.

The children of Israel were thirsty and complaining in the wilderness. God gave Moses a clear and specific instruction. He told him to speak to the rock and water would flow from it. Simple. Clear. Specific. Here is what God said:

Take the rod and gather the assembly together thou and Aaron thy brother and speak ye unto the rock before their eyes and it shall give forth his water and thou shalt bring forth to them water out of the rock so thou shalt give the congregation and their beasts drink. (Numbers 20:8)

Speak to the rock. That was the instruction. But Moses was frustrated with the people and instead of speaking to the rock he struck it twice with his rod:

And Moses lifted up his hand and with his rod he smote the rock twice and the water came out abundantly and the congregation drank and their beasts also. (Numbers 20:11)

Now here is where it gets deeply sobering. The water still came out. The miracle still happened. The people still drank. By every outward measure it looked like a success. But God's response was immediate and devastating:

And the Lord spake unto Moses and Aaron because ye believed me not to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel therefore ye shall not bring this congregation into the land which I have given them. (Numbers 20:12)

Moses who had walked with God for decades, who had stood before Pharaoh, who had parted the Red Sea, who had received the Ten Commandments on the mountain, who had interceded for Israel time and time again was told he would not enter the promised land. Not because the miracle failed. Not because the people did not get water. But because he did not follow God's instruction precisely as given.

Think about that for a moment. The outcome looked the same from the outside. Water came out of the rock either way. But God said Moses had not sanctified Him in the eyes of the people. The way you obey matters just as much as whether you obey. God is not just interested in the result. He is interested in the precise obedience that reflects trust in His word and honor for His character.

And this was not the only time God demonstrated how seriously He takes precise obedience to His instructions.

Think about Nadab and Abihu the sons of Aaron the high priest. God had given detailed and specific instructions about how fire was to be offered before Him in the tabernacle. But these two priests decided to offer what Scripture calls strange fire:

And Nadab and Abihu the sons of Aaron took either of them his censer and put fire therein and put incense thereon and offered strange fire before the Lord which he commanded them not. And there went out fire from the Lord and devoured them and they died before the Lord. (Leviticus 10:1-2)

They were priests. Sons of the high priest. They were in the right place doing what looked like the right thing. But they substituted their own method for God's specific instruction and the consequence was immediate and final. God then said to Aaron through Moses:

I will be sanctified in them that come nigh me and before all the people I will be glorified. (Leviticus 10:3)

God will be sanctified in the way He specifies. Not in the way that seems convenient or reasonable or close enough to us.

Think also about King Saul who was told by God through the prophet Samuel to completely destroy the Amalekites and everything belonging to them. Saul went to battle and won the victory but decided to keep the best of the sheep and oxen and spare the Amalekite king Agag. When Samuel confronted him Saul actually said he had obeyed God and that the animals were kept to sacrifice to the Lord. It sounded reasonable. It even sounded religious. But Samuel's response cuts to the heart of this entire discussion:

Hath the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices as in obeying the voice of the Lord? Behold to obey is better than sacrifice and to hearken than the fat of rams. For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry because thou hast rejected the word of the Lord he hath also rejected thee from being king. (1 Samuel 15:22-23)

To obey is better than sacrifice. Saul thought he was honoring God with those animals. He thought close enough was good enough. God called it rebellion and it cost him his kingdom.

Now bring all of this back to the Sabbath. God did not say rest on a day that feels convenient to you or on the day your church tradition has chosen or on whatever day fits your schedule. He was specific. He was precise. He embedded the Sabbath into the very rhythm of creation itself before any law was given, before Israel existed, before Moses was born:

And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. (Genesis 2:2-3)

God blessed the seventh day. God sanctified the seventh day. Not a day of your choosing. The seventh day. And when He wrote the commandment on tablets of stone with His own finger He was equally specific:

Remember the sabbath day to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour and do all thy work but the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God. (Exodus 20:8-10)

The seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God. Not the first day. Not any day that feels spiritual to you. The seventh day specifically.

And Jesus Himself confirmed that not one detail of what God commanded would be changed:

For verily I say unto you till heaven and earth pass away one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law till all be fulfilled. (Matthew 5:18)

A jot and a tittle are the smallest marks in the Hebrew alphabet. Jesus was saying that not even the tiniest detail of what God commanded has been set aside. Not the day. Not the method. Not the precision.

The lesson of Moses, of Nadab and Abihu, of King Saul is the same lesson running through all of Scripture. God's instructions are not suggestions. They are not starting points from which we can improvise our own version that seems close enough. They are precise expressions of His character and His holiness and He takes them seriously even when we do not fully understand why.

The water came out of the rock when Moses struck it. But Moses paid a devastating price for the substitution. The Sabbath blessing may feel present on whatever day you choose. But the question God is asking is the same one He asked Moses, the same one He asked Nadab and Abihu, the same one He asked Saul:

Did you do what I said or did you do what seemed good to you?

And the God who sanctified the seventh day from the foundation of the world is still asking that question today.

God does not Change. For our own good and the good of everyone, God wants we do his will and not our own. Scripture is clear about it. What difference a day makes? to God it matters deeply.

I'm sorry, but you're stuck on that. Who is Lord of the Sabbath? Lord Jesus or the shadow that is Saturday that was only meant for Jews?

Matthew 12:8 For the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath,"

Mark 2:28 "So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.”

Luke 6:5 Then Jesus said to them, “The Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.”

So it's Jesus who is Lord of the Sabbath. Notice that scripture says "Sabbath" and not the seventh day, Saturday. That should hint to you that Saturday is not what God was aiming at concerning our rest. The fourth commandment written on our hearts is pointing to Jesus as our Sabbath rest.

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Hebrews 4:9 "So then, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God, 10 for whoever has entered God’s rest has also rested from his works as God did from His."

Matthew 11:28 “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”

So it's not just Saturday anymore - that's was just introductory to help us understand the concept of Jesus being actually our Sabbath rest. So any day can be the Sabbath in Christ, even everday.


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[SabbathBlessing]

I'm sorry, but you're stuck on that. Who is Lord of the Sabbath? Lord Jesus or the shadow that is Saturday that was only meant for Jews?

Matthew 12:8 For the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath,"

Mark 2:28 "So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.”

Luke 6:5 Then Jesus said to them, “The Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.”

What's the point of being LORD of the Sabbath if the Sabbath is not what the LORD of the Sabbath said it is when He made it Exo20:11 Exo20:8-11 that makes someone else the lord of the Sabbath if the LORD who created the Sabbath can't tell us how He created to be kept and who He made it for.

So it's Jesus who is Lord of the Sabbath. Notice that scripture says "Sabbath" and not the seventh day, Saturday. That should hint to you that Saturday is not what God was aiming at concerning our rest. The fourth commandment written on our hearts is pointing to Jesus as our Sabbath rest.

Because once God establishes something, no one can change it because no one is above God.

Heb 4:10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God.

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Hebrews 4:9 "So then, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God, 10 for whoever has entered God’s rest has also rested from his works as God did from His."

This is self explanatory there is no need to add everyday to this passage when the Text didn't.

What remains? The Sabbath rest. What is the Sabbath rest? Lets let Scripture interpret Scripture

Luke 23:Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment.

The Sabbath rest is according to the commandment and the commandment of God says the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD Exo20:10

Why this verse literally translates into Sabbath-keeping which remains (not changed) for God's people

Original Word: σαββατισμός
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: sabbatismos
Pronunciation: sab-bat-is-mos'
Phonetic Spelling: (sab-bat-is-mos')
sabbatismos: Sabbath rest
Definition: Sabbath rest
Meaning: a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest.

10 for whoever has entered God’s rest has also rested from his works as God did from His."

There is the word "also" here which means in addition. Those who have enter God's rest also- do something additional they also rest from their works as God did from His.

When did God rest from His works? This very passage tells us quoting OT

Heb 4:4 For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”

Those who enter God's rest also rest on the seventh day as God did, because man was always made in the image of Christ, not to do something different.

 

[SabbathBlessing]

Matthew 11:28 “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”

Mat 11:28 Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am [a]gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”

Many believe and teach Christ's rest some how relieves our moral obligation to obey the Sabbath commandment, but is this what Jesus is teaching?

Jesus said this and still kept the Sabbath going to church reading God's word Luke 4:16 as the apostles did following in His footsteps keeping every Sabbath in the same manner decades after the Cross Acts 15:21 Acts 13:42 Acts 13:44 Acts 18:4 as the Sabbath is a holy convocation Lev 23:3 and we see that continuing on in the New Heaven and New Earth Isa 66:22-23

So what rest is Christ referring to?

Psa 38:3 There is no soundness in my flesh because of thine anger; neither is there any rest in my bones because of my sin.4 For mine iniquities are gone over mine head: as an heavy burden they are too heavy for me.

The rest Jesus is giving us when we come to Him is rest from our sins. Jesus came to save us from our sins Mat 1:21 we are not saved in our sins Heb 10:26-30

Sin is:
1 John 3:4 Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness.
James 2:11-12 For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. quoting and contrasting directly from the Ten Commandments breaking one we break them all
Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, “You shall not covet.”
Rom 14:23 But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because he does not eat from faith; for whatever is not from faith is sin.


We also see this play out in the last days

Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”

Compared to the antidote found in the next verse

Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.

If we understand Christ rest, it will help us understand Hebrews 4 much better as it is speaking of two rests, not one.

We are invited to enter into Christ rest, just like the Israelites, Heb 4:1 but many didn't enter due to disobedience (sin) even through the same gospel was preached Heb 4:6

Why the Holy Spirit is calling us "TODAY" to come our of our rebellion (sin) and enter His rest quoting directly from Psa 95

Heb 3:7 Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says:

“Today, if you will hear His voice,
8 Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion,
In the day of trial in the wilderness,
9 Where your fathers tested Me, tried Me,
And saw My works forty years.
10 Therefore I was angry with that generation,
And said, ‘They always go astray in their heart,
And they have not known My ways.’
11 So I swore in My wrath,
‘They shall not enter My rest.’ ”

Why there is another day spoken of, which is TODAY God is calling us from our sins and come unto Him and He will give us rest from the burdens of sin but we need to enter through faith Heb 4:2

What did the Israelites disobey during their trial of the wilderness that led them to not enter into Christ rest

Eze 22:13 Yet the house of Israel rebelled against Me in the wilderness; they did not walk in My statutes; they despised My judgments, ‘which, if a man does, he shall live by them’; and they greatly defiled My Sabbaths. Then I said I would pour out My fury on them in the wilderness, to consume them.

Why the next verse says there remains a Sabbath-rest for the people of God Heb 4:9 and the Sabbath rest is according to the commandment Luke 23:56 because breaking God's law is sin 1 John 3:4 James 2:11-12

The next verse clearly shows these two rests

Heb 4:10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also (in addition) ceased from his works as God did from His.

God ceased from His works on the seventh day, Heb 4:4 Gen 2:1-3 just like God commanded us to Exo 20:8-11 as we were made in His image and likeness so to enter His rest one also ceases from work on the seventh day Sabbath. Exo 20:10

Heb 4:11 Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience

We don't want to follow the same mistakes of the Israelites who sinned and never entered their rest in Canaan, which is a type of heaven. The same applies to us to enter in Heaven Rev 22:14

12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13 And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.

In Christ rest no one is in rebellion or breaking God's law, why there is just peace
Isa 48:18
Oh, that you had heeded My commandments!
Then your peace would have been like a river,
And your righteousness like the waves of the sea.

Jesus is coming soon and we need to come out of our rebellion to Him and obey Him and His commandments, His version, God’s own personal Testimony Exo 31:18 written personally by God, His law and will Psa 40:8, It’s why we see the ark of the covenant, which holds God’s personal Testimony, the Ten Commandments written and spoken by the God of the Universe revealed at the last Trumpet before Jesus comes in all His Glory Rev 11:19 as it is the standard of what God will judge all man 2 Cor 5:10 James 2:10-12 Ecc 12:13-14 Mat 5:19-30 Rev 11:18-19 Rev 22:14-15 and removing anything God covers under His mercy seat which below sits God’s Testimony His Ten Commandments, laying it aside as to say its not for me, I do not believe that's going to work out so well as Jesus taught plainly Mat 15:3-14 Mark 7:7-13

So lets be willing to forsake our sins Pro 28:13 and come to Jesus, He will give us rest.

 

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Mat 11:28 Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am [a]gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”

Many believe and teach Christ's rest some how relieves our moral obligation to obey the Sabbath commandment, but is this what Jesus is teaching?

Jesus said this and still kept the Sabbath going to church reading God's word Luke 4:16 as the apostles did following in His footsteps keeping every Sabbath in the same manner decades after the Cross Acts 15:21 Acts 13:42 Acts 13:44 Acts 18:4 as the Sabbath is a holy convocation Lev 23:3 and we see that continuing on in the New Heaven and New Earth Isa 66:22-23

So what rest is Christ referring to?

Psa 38:3 There is no soundness in my flesh because of thine anger; neither is there any rest in my bones because of my sin.4 For mine iniquities are gone over mine head: as an heavy burden they are too heavy for me.

The rest Jesus is giving us when we come to Him is rest from our sins. Jesus came to save us from our sins Mat 1:21 we are not saved in our sins Heb 10:26-30

Sin is:
1 John 3:4 Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness.
James 2:11-12 For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. quoting and contrasting directly from the Ten Commandments breaking one we break them all
Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, “You shall not covet.”
Rom 14:23 But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because he does not eat from faith; for whatever is not from faith is sin.


We also see this play out in the last days

Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”

Compared to the antidote found in the next verse

Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.

If we understand Christ rest, it will help us understand Hebrews 4 much better as it is speaking of two rests, not one.

We are invited to enter into Christ rest, just like the Israelites, Heb 4:1 but many didn't enter due to disobedience (sin) even through the same gospel was preached Heb 4:6

Why the Holy Spirit is calling us "TODAY" to come our of our rebellion (sin) and enter His rest quoting directly from Psa 95

Heb 3:7 Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says:

“Today, if you will hear His voice,
8 Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion,
In the day of trial in the wilderness,
9 Where your fathers tested Me, tried Me,
And saw My works forty years.
10 Therefore I was angry with that generation,
And said, ‘They always go astray in their heart,
And they have not known My ways.’
11 So I swore in My wrath,
‘They shall not enter My rest.’ ”

Why there is another day spoken of, which is TODAY God is calling us from our sins and come unto Him and He will give us rest from the burdens of sin but we need to enter through faith Heb 4:2

What did the Israelites disobey during their trial of the wilderness that led them to not enter into Christ rest

Eze 22:13 Yet the house of Israel rebelled against Me in the wilderness; they did not walk in My statutes; they despised My judgments, ‘which, if a man does, he shall live by them’; and they greatly defiled My Sabbaths. Then I said I would pour out My fury on them in the wilderness, to consume them.

Why the next verse says there remains a Sabbath-rest for the people of God Heb 4:9 and the Sabbath rest is according to the commandment Luke 23:56 because breaking God's law is sin 1 John 3:4 James 2:11-12

The next verse clearly shows these two rests

Heb 4:10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also (in addition) ceased from his works as God did from His.

God ceased from His works on the seventh day, Heb 4:4 Gen 2:1-3 just like God commanded us to Exo 20:8-11 as we were made in His image and likeness so to enter His rest one also ceases from work on the seventh day Sabbath. Exo 20:10

Heb 4:11 Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience

We don't want to follow the same mistakes of the Israelites who sinned and never entered their rest in Canaan, which is a type of heaven. The same applies to us to enter in Heaven Rev 22:14

12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13 And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.

In Christ rest no one is in rebellion or breaking God's law, why there is just peace
Isa 48:18
Oh, that you had heeded My commandments!
Then your peace would have been like a river,
And your righteousness like the waves of the sea.

Jesus is coming soon and we need to come out of our rebellion to Him and obey Him and His commandments, His version, God’s own personal Testimony Exo 31:18 written personally by God, His law and will Psa 40:8, It’s why we see the ark of the covenant, which holds God’s personal Testimony, the Ten Commandments written and spoken by the God of the Universe revealed at the last Trumpet before Jesus comes in all His Glory Rev 11:19 as it is the standard of what God will judge all man 2 Cor 5:10 James 2:10-12 Ecc 12:13-14 Mat 5:19-30 Rev 11:18-19 Rev 22:14-15 and removing anything God covers under His mercy seat which below sits God’s Testimony His Ten Commandments, laying it aside as to say its not for me, I do not believe that's going to work out so well as Jesus taught plainly Mat 15:3-14 Mark 7:7-13

So lets be willing to forsake our sins Pro 28:13 and come to Jesus, He will give us rest.

Just posting long posts isn’t going to convince God's people when the Holy Spirit is showing us in Scripture that Jesus is our Sabbath rest.

If you won't listen to the Holy Spirit about that, what else are you not listening to Him about?

Don't bother, we know about your dietary laws too.


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[SabbathBlessing]

Just posting long posts isn’t going to convince God's people when the Holy Spirit is showing us in Scripture that Jesus is our Sabbath rest.

If you won't listen to the Holy Spirit about that, what else are you not listening to Him about?

Don't bother, we know about your dietary laws too.


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Than just listen to the Holy Spirit on when He said the Sabbath is in this one Text, written by God spoken by God. Exo 31:18

Exo 20:10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God.

No need to change what God said He would not. Not a jot or tittle Mat5:18-19 Psa89:34

Sadly, doing this is from the other spirit we are warned about.

Isa8:20 To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

If the God of the Bible can't define what things are and tell us do not add or change it Deut4:2 Ecc3:14 Rev22:18-19 because I won't Mat5:18-19 Psa89:23 I am not sure the point of the Bible is we wont allow God to speak.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

Than just listen to the Holy Spirit on when He said the Sabbath is in this one Text, written by God spoken by God.

Exo 20:10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God.

No need to change what God said He would not. Not a jot or tittle Mat5:18-19 Psa89:34

Sadly, doing this is from the other spirit we are warned about.

Isa8:20 To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

See? You're stuck in the old testament as if Jesus is not your Sabbath rest. He isn't to you, is He?

I'm sticking with Lord Jesus and won't further discuss this with you or anyone else.


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[SabbathBlessing]

See? You're stuck in the old testament as if Jesus is not your Sabbath rest. He isn't to you, is He?

I'm sticking with Lord Jesus and won't further discuss this with you or anyone else.


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Mat5:18-19 is not OT nor is Luke23:56 or Mat24:20 Acts 13:42 Acts 13:44 Acts 15:21 Acts 18:4 Acts 17:2 Rev14:12 Mark 3:4 Mark2:27-28 etc and the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the OT is our God too. He changes not.

God is eternal, what He deems righteous is eternal. Isa56:1-2 Psa119:142 its the foundation of His Throne Psa89:14 What hasn't changed is our harden heart and being in rebellion like the those who were tested before us Heb3:7-19 we are told not to follow in their same example of disobedience Heb4:11 Eze20:15-16

There is no commandment to keep everyday as a holy day or keep the first day holy. This is a man-made tradition. There is a commandment to keep the seventh day Sabbath holy, written by God Himself- as far as I know there is no one above Him to change a jot or tittle. Mat5:18-19 not according to Jesus who is God made flesh. This literally breaks all of God's commandments.

 

[vassal]

I'm sorry, but you're stuck on that. Who is Lord of the Sabbath? Lord Jesus or the shadow that is Saturday that was only meant for Jews?

Matthew 12:8 For the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath,"

Mark 2:28 "So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.”

Luke 6:5 Then Jesus said to them, “The Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.”

So it's Jesus who is Lord of the Sabbath. Notice that scripture says "Sabbath" and not the seventh day, Saturday. That should hint to you that Saturday is not what God was aiming at concerning our rest. The fourth commandment written on our hearts is pointing to Jesus as our Sabbath rest.

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Hebrews 4:9 "So then, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God, 10 for whoever has entered God’s rest has also rested from his works as God did from His."

Matthew 11:28 “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”

So it's not just Saturday anymore - that's was just introductory to help us understand the concept of Jesus being actually our Sabbath rest. So any day can be the Sabbath in Christ, even everday.


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Please don't be offended you know I always go with scripture, I am very careful with what I write and it is never my personal opinions.

Jesus said something that is either the most powerful confirmation of the Sabbath or the most misunderstood statement about it depending on how you read it:

And he said unto them the sabbath was made for man and not man for the sabbath. Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath. (Mark 2:27-28)

Think about what this actually means. When someone is Lord of something they have authority over it. They own it. They govern it. A king is not lord of a kingdom that no longer exists. A landlord is not lord of a property that has been demolished. You cannot be Lord of something that has been abolished.

When Jesus declared Himself Lord of the Sabbath He was not cancelling it. He was claiming ownership of it. He was saying this is Mine. I made it. I govern it. I define what it truly means. And what it truly means is a gift of rest and restoration that God built into creation for the benefit of humanity before any law was ever given.

He confirmed this by pointing back to creation itself not to Moses:

The sabbath was made for man. (Mark 2:27)

Made. At creation. For all humanity. Not given temporarily to Israel and then withdrawn. Made for man. And its Lord is still Jesus. Still on the seventh day. Still standing exactly as God sanctified it at the beginning:

And God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it. (Genesis 2:3)

What God blessed and sanctified Jesus confirmed as Lord. That is not abolishment. That is the highest possible confirmation.

Remember the sabbath day to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour and do all thy work but the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God. (Exodus 20:8-10)

The seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God. Not the first day. Not any day that feels spiritual to you. The seventh day specifically.

Now here is a verse that is rarely talked about honestly in this discussion and it deserves careful attention. The writer of Hebrews writing to believers under the New Covenant says this:

There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. (Hebrews 4:9)

The word translated rest here is extraordinarily significant. In the original Greek it is the word sabbatismos. This is the only place in the entire New Testament where this specific word appears and it means quite literally a keeping of the Sabbath. Not a general spiritual rest. Not a vague metaphor for salvation. The writer chose this precise word deliberately and specifically when many other Greek words for rest were available to him.

What makes this even more powerful is the context. The writer of Hebrews is talking about the rest that God entered on the seventh day of creation and is saying that this same rest remains for the people of God. It has not been cancelled. It has not been replaced. It remains. The word remaineth in that verse comes from the Greek word apoleipo which means to leave behind or to still be there waiting. The Sabbath rest is still there waiting for God's people to enter into it.

And who established that rest? God Himself at creation:

And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it. (Genesis 2:2-3)

The writer of Hebrews is pointing his New Covenant readers back to the very same seventh day rest that God established before sin, before Israel, before any law was given. And he says it remains for the people of God. That is not the language of something abolished or replaced or made flexible. That is the language of something still standing, still available and still expected.

And Jesus Himself confirmed that not one detail of what God commanded would be changed:

For verily I say unto you till heaven and earth pass away one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law till all be fulfilled. (Matthew 5:18)

A jot and a tittle are the smallest marks in the Hebrew alphabet. Jesus was saying that not even the tiniest detail of what God commanded has been set aside.

The lesson of Moses, of Nadab and Abihu, of King Saul is the same lesson running through all of Scripture. God's instructions are not suggestions. They are not starting points from which we can improvise our own version that seems close enough. They are precise expressions of His character and His holiness and He takes them seriously even when we do not fully understand why.

The water came out of the rock when Moses struck it. But Moses paid a devastating price for the substitution. The Sabbath blessing may feel present on whatever day you choose. But the question God is asking is the same one He asked Moses, the same one He asked Nadab and Abihu, the same one He asked Saul:
Did you do what I said or did you do what seemed good to you?

And the God who sanctified the seventh day from the foundation of the world, the God whose people still have a sabbatismos waiting for them according to the writer of Hebrews, is still asking that question today. The seventh day is not a suggestion. It is a gift that God blessed, sanctified and reserved for His people from the very beginning of time. And it still remains.

 

[vassal]

Great post @vassal !

What you put your finger one is exactly what happened with the fall of mankind.

After God made the heaven and earth and everything in it, He made man in His image and likeness and than rested on the seventh day. God blessed the seventh day, sanctified and named it, the Sabbath. Everything God did at Creation was for man, including the Sabbath made for man. Mark2:27-28 God doesn't need to rest, He does not tire, He does not need to make a day holy because He is holy, He does not need sanctification, the Sabbath was all done for man as a gift to humanity to rest in God's creative and redemptive work. Keeping the Sabbath points us back to Creation, before sin, when God made everything for us without us. Why we are told to worship only this God and a reminder in the last days people people have followed another master Rev14:7 Exo20:11

The only job Adam and Eve had was to keep what God created and made. That would include maintaining the garden and resting with God on the seventh day Sabbath.

Gen 2:15Then the Lord God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to tend and keep it

God gave them clear instructions, you can eat from every tree but one.

The devil put doubt in their mind

Gen 3:2 And the woman said to the serpent, “We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden; 3 but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said, ‘You shall not eat it, nor shall you touch it, lest you die.’ ”

4 Then the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. (the opposite of what God said)5 For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

Do you really think God cared about a tree? They could eat from the abundance of trees but not one. This was the difference between maintaining their robe of righteousness and eating from the Tree of Life and being thrown out of the garden separated from God. It was really a test of loyalty.

Why do we think God does not care about the only day that He set aside from Creation that comes with the power of His blessings and sanctification, because we can't do this ourselves. Isa66:17 God is very specific for a reason. He cared about 1 tree, He cares about His written spoken will and Testimony Exo31:18 the holy day of the LORD Isa58:13 , the Sabbath of the LORD that is on the seventh day Exo20:10 that He warned us His adversary would change. Dan7:25 and we see this in history plainly.






Our only safeguard it to abide in Christ, keep His commandments the way He said and allow Him to Shepard us. He will only lead us on the narrow path back to the Tree of Life

Rev 22:14 Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.

God said Remember- lets not let the devil and deceive us and put doubt in our minds to what God says. God only cares about our best interest, the devil wants to destroy our relationship from God. Jesus said join yourselves to Me, keep the Sabbath and invitation to everyone Isa56:6 don't let what the devil has done for centuries and put doubt in our minds to what the LORD says. Don't let Him take our blessing! Isa56:2

yes and also the sabbath, the 4th commandment is part of the ten ( the covenant) and cannot be removed or changed because we want to, God was very specific about it or he would have said something different like : you shall rest one day during the week..... the 7th day is very specific and assuredly is a test for the people of God exodus 16 proves this.

 

[Dino246]

Please don't be offended you know I always go with scripture, I am very careful with what I write and it is never my personal opinions.

Best joke I’ve read all morning!

 

[JimiSurvivor]

You are absolutely right that covenant is far deeper than a contract and that God is a covenant keeping God. That an important truth that all needs to hear.

Perhaps you need to tell others who are in your camp - so we will not get the wrong idea about what you believe and conclude that you are Judaizers or Ebionites. Personally, I see you as Judaeizers since you believe that IN ADDITION to REPENTANCE and FAITH (which tells us how to be united with Messiah His Heavenly kingdom) we must ALSO commit to following the practice of Keeping Shabbat. When did the Apostles ever add such requirements to gospel of salvation? When I was attending a Messianic Congregation no one in my Beit Cnesset would ever say this - not to Jewish or Gentile brethen.

In fact, these matters have already been discussed and decided back when the Apostles and Elders of the NT Church convened at the so-called "Jerusalam Council" In Acts 15 some believers were insisting that baptized Gentiles should ALSO be circumcised and keep kosher food laws (etc.). The Apostle Peter bore witness to the miracles that were performed when the Spirit was poured out on the Gentile believers. This revealed that Gentiles are SAVED through faith in Christ, without the necessity of receiving circumcision or adhering to all Jewish laws. The council recommended that Gentile believers abstain from some “essential” Jewish taboos, namely: “things polluted by idols" and fornication went along with ceremonies in pagan temples. No one suggested that, in addition to keeping these other directives, the Gentiles should be commanded to keep Shabbat. I do not remember where any NT Apostle or Prophet commanded this.

 

[JimiSurvivor]

All I can say at this point is that God is very particular with His instructions. All of them matter and all of them are given for a reason. To illustrate, let us look at Moses in the desert when he struck the rock for water.

The children of Israel were thirsty and complaining in the wilderness. God gave Moses a clear and specific instruction. He told him to speak to the rock and water would flow from it. Simple. Clear. Specific. Here is what God said:

Take the rod and gather the assembly together thou and Aaron thy brother and speak ye unto the rock before their eyes and it shall give forth his water and thou shalt bring forth to them water out of the rock so thou shalt give the congregation and their beasts drink. (Numbers 20:8)

Speak to the rock. That was the instruction. But Moses was frustrated with the people and instead of speaking to the rock he struck it twice with his rod:

And Moses lifted up his hand and with his rod he smote the rock twice and the water came out abundantly and the congregation drank and their beasts also. (Numbers 20:11)

Now here is where it gets deeply sobering. The water still came out. The miracle still happened. The people still drank. By every outward measure it looked like a success. But God's response was immediate and devastating:

And the Lord spake unto Moses and Aaron because ye believed me not to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel therefore ye shall not bring this congregation into the land which I have given them. (Numbers 20:12)

Moses who had walked with God for decades, who had stood before Pharaoh, who had parted the Red Sea, who had received the Ten Commandments on the mountain, who had interceded for Israel time and time again was told he would not enter the promised land. Not because the miracle failed. Not because the people did not get water. But because he did not follow God's instruction precisely as given.

Think about that for a moment. The outcome looked the same from the outside. Water came out of the rock either way. But God said Moses had not sanctified Him in the eyes of the people. The way you obey matters just as much as whether you obey. God is not just interested in the result. He is interested in the precise obedience that reflects trust in His word and honor for His character.

And this was not the only time God demonstrated how seriously He takes precise obedience to His instructions.

Think about Nadab and Abihu the sons of Aaron the high priest. God had given detailed and specific instructions about how fire was to be offered before Him in the tabernacle. But these two priests decided to offer what Scripture calls strange fire:

And Nadab and Abihu the sons of Aaron took either of them his censer and put fire therein and put incense thereon and offered strange fire before the Lord which he commanded them not. And there went out fire from the Lord and devoured them and they died before the Lord. (Leviticus 10:1-2)

They were priests. Sons of the high priest. They were in the right place doing what looked like the right thing. But they substituted their own method for God's specific instruction and the consequence was immediate and final. God then said to Aaron through Moses:

I will be sanctified in them that come nigh me and before all the people I will be glorified. (Leviticus 10:3)

God will be sanctified in the way He specifies. Not in the way that seems convenient or reasonable or close enough to us.

Think also about King Saul who was told by God through the prophet Samuel to completely destroy the Amalekites and everything belonging to them. Saul went to battle and won the victory but decided to keep the best of the sheep and oxen and spare the Amalekite king Agag. When Samuel confronted him Saul actually said he had obeyed God and that the animals were kept to sacrifice to the Lord. It sounded reasonable. It even sounded religious. But Samuel's response cuts to the heart of this entire discussion:

Hath the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices as in obeying the voice of the Lord? Behold to obey is better than sacrifice and to hearken than the fat of rams. For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry because thou hast rejected the word of the Lord he hath also rejected thee from being king. (1 Samuel 15:22-23)

To obey is better than sacrifice. Saul thought he was honoring God with those animals. He thought close enough was good enough. God called it rebellion and it cost him his kingdom.

Now bring all of this back to the Sabbath. God did not say rest on a day that feels convenient to you or on the day your church tradition has chosen or on whatever day fits your schedule. He was specific. He was precise. He embedded the Sabbath into the very rhythm of creation itself before any law was given, before Israel existed, before Moses was born:

And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. (Genesis 2:2-3)

God blessed the seventh day. God sanctified the seventh day. Not a day of your choosing. The seventh day. And when He wrote the commandment on tablets of stone with His own finger He was equally specific:

Remember the sabbath day to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour and do all thy work but the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God. (Exodus 20:8-10)

The seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God. Not the first day. Not any day that feels spiritual to you. The seventh day specifically.

And Jesus Himself confirmed that not one detail of what God commanded would be changed:

For verily I say unto you till heaven and earth pass away one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law till all be fulfilled. (Matthew 5:18)

A jot and a tittle are the smallest marks in the Hebrew alphabet. Jesus was saying that not even the tiniest detail of what God commanded has been set aside. Not the day. Not the method. Not the precision.

The lesson of Moses, of Nadab and Abihu, of King Saul is the same lesson running through all of Scripture. God's instructions are not suggestions. They are not starting points from which we can improvise our own version that seems close enough. They are precise expressions of His character and His holiness and He takes them seriously even when we do not fully understand why.

The water came out of the rock when Moses struck it. But Moses paid a devastating price for the substitution. The Sabbath blessing may feel present on whatever day you choose. But the question God is asking is the same one He asked Moses, the same one He asked Nadab and Abihu, the same one He asked Saul:

Did you do what I said or did you do what seemed good to you?

And the God who sanctified the seventh day from the foundation of the world is still asking that question today.

God does not Change. For our own good and the good of everyone, God wants we do his will and not our own. Scripture is clear about it. What difference a day makes? to God it matters deeply.

It is always true that we must OBEY what God tells us but there is ample evidence in the writings of the Apostles that we no longer have to obey every statute and practice which was commanded under the Old Covenant because that covenant has now been rendered OBSOLETE by the advent of a NEW and better Covenant.

If we were still under the Old Covenant, initiated by Abraham and commanded to the Jews in the Mosaic covenant, then circumcision would still be required (since it had been an essential part of the Abrahamic and Mosaic covenants. It is true that God Himself does not change. Neither does the moral law change because they are embedded in creation. However, what God can change is the relationship we have with Him. All the Old Covenants were superseded when the Son of God sacrificed Himself on the cross.

 

[SabbathBlessing]

Perhaps you need to tell others who are in your camp - so we will not get the wrong idea about what you believe and conclude that you are Judaizers or Ebionites. Personally, I see you as Judaeizers since you believe that IN ADDITION to REPENTANCE and FAITH (which tells us how to be united with Messiah His Heavenly kingdom) we must ALSO commit to following the practice of Keeping Shabbat. When did the Apostles ever add such requirements to gospel of salvation? When I was attending a Messianic Congregation no one in my Beit Cnesset would ever say this - not to Jewish or Gentile brethen.

In fact, these matters have already been discussed and decided back when the Apostles and Elders of the NT Church convened at the so-called "Jerusalam Council" In Acts 15 some believers were insisting that baptized Gentiles should ALSO be circumcised and keep kosher food laws (etc.). The Apostle Peter bore witness to the miracles that were performed when the Spirit was poured out on the Gentile believers. This revealed that Gentiles are SAVED through faith in Christ, without the necessity of receiving circumcision or adhering to all Jewish laws. The council recommended that Gentile believers abstain from some “essential” Jewish taboos, namely: “things polluted by idols" and fornication went along with ceremonies in pagan temples. No one suggested that, in addition to keeping these other directives, the Gentiles should be commanded to keep Shabbat. I do not remember where any NT Apostle or Prophet commanded thi

The apostles taught what matters is keeping the commandments of God

1 Cor7:19Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters.

So can you please show me the verse where God- the God of heaven and earth and everything else who came down from heaven and personally wrote out His commandments and collectively in the unit of Ten called them "My commandments" Exo20:6 where did He say once anywhere in all of the Bible that the Sabbath is no longer one of His commandments. Jesus taught it was lawful to do good on the Sabbath and one can still do evil Mark3:4 (profane it Neh13:17 Isa56:2) God did say He would write His laws in the hearts and minds of His New Covenant people. It will be hard pressed to disprove that the Sabbath is not one of His commandments.

The very first thing we see after the death of Christ after He ratified His covenant, where no man can add or change it without Jesus dying all over again, which is death was once and for all Heb10:10

The first thing we see after His death is the Sabbath being faithful kept according to the commandment

Luke 23:56 Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment.
In the council for the Gentiles they were already keeping the Sabbath because God personally invited us Gentiles to, those who love Him and want to join themselves to Him

Isa 56:6 “Also the sons of the foreigner (Gentiles)
Who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him,
And to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants—
Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,
And holds fast My covenant—

Why the apostles were not teaching one person to not keep the Sabbath in the council for the Gentiles, they started off with 4 things and everything else they would learn on the Sabbath

Acts 15:21 For Moses has had throughout many generations those who preach him in every city, being read in the synagogues every Sabbath.

Because both the Jews and Gentiles were keeping the Sabbath, because God's commandments are for all people, those who love and want to serve the LORD

Acts 13:42 So when the Jews went out of the synagogue, the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath.

So unlike what people teach today that the Sabbath that God made for them is not for them, that day one is there day despite zero Scripture, we would have at least seen that plainly when the Jews asked for more gospel preaching the "next Sabbath" instead of day 1.

But did that happen?

Acts 13:44 On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God.
Acts 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded both Jews and Greeks.
Of course not because the change of the Sabbath did not happen in Scripture, it is what God warned us about would happen. Dan7:25. We can always follow and join ourselves to the church who changed God's Sabbath on their own authority, or we can join God. I do not beleive you can do both.
Mat6:24 No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other.

Jesus invited everyone to serve Him Isa56:6

or we can serve Rome, even if we don't think we are because whoever we obey is who we serve

It is well to remind the Presbyterians, Baptists, Methodists, and all other Christians, that the Bible does not support them anywhere in their observance of Sunday. Sunday is an institution of the Roman Catholic Church, and those who observe the day observe a commandment of the Catholic Church.
—Priest Brady, in an address, reported in the Elizabeth, NJ ‘News’ on March 18, 1903.

Question: Which is the Sabbath day?
Answer: Saturday is the Sabbath day.

Question: Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
Answer: We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday.
—Rev. Peter Geiermann C.SS.R., The Convert’s Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, p. 50

... you may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctify.
—The Faith of Our Fathers, by James Cardinal Gibbons, Archbishop of Baltimore, 88th edition, page 89. Originally published in 1876, republished and Copyright 1980 by TAN Books and Publishers, Inc., pages 72-73.

If Protestants would follow the Bible, they would worship God on the Sabbath Day. In keeping the Sunday they are following a law of the Catholic Church.
—Albert Smith, Chancellor of the Archdiocese of Baltimore, replying for the Cardinal, in a letter dated February 10, 1920.

 

[SabbathBlessing]

It is always true that we must OBEY what God tells us but there is ample evidence in the writings of the Apostles that we no longer have to obey every statute and practice which was commanded under the Old Covenant because that covenant has now been rendered OBSOLETE by the advent of a NEW and better Covenant.

If we were still under the Old Covenant, initiated by Abraham and commanded to the Jews in the Mosaic covenant, then circumcision would still be required (since it had been an essential part of the Abrahamic and Mosaic covenants. It is true that God Himself does not change. Neither does the moral law change because they are embedded in creation. However, what God can change is the relationship we have with Him. All the Old Covenants were superseded when the Son of God sacrificed Himself on the cross.

Can you tell me which one of these commandments of God Exo20:6 (not Moses) God forgot to write in the hearts and minds of His New Covenant believers heart in the NT

I do not see the name of Moses anywhere in these commandments, but I see God's name in the first 4 that show us how to love God, given by God directly, so we really won't have a lot of excuses


Exo 20:1 And God spoke all these words, saying:
2 “I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3 “You shall have no other gods before Me.
4 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; 5 you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, 6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.
7 “You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain, for the LORD will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.
8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
12 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the LORD your God is giving you.
13 “You shall not murder.
14 “You shall not commit adultery.
15 “You shall not steal.
16 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
17 “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.”

From the way I am reading the NC, not one of them we are free to disregard and the God of the OT still is the God that governs the NT

James 2:10 For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all. 11 For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law.

 

[JimiSurvivor]

yes and also the sabbath, the 4th commandment is part of the ten ( the covenant) and cannot be removed or changed because we want to, God was very specific about it or he would have said something different like : you shall rest one day during the week..... the 7th day is very specific and assuredly is a test for the people of God exodus 16 proves this.

When I lived in Israel, the Hasidim were agitators. Every time the Shabbat siren would sound announcing the commencement of Shabbat, they would tour the neighborhoods confronting anyone who might be trying to buy or sell. They did the same thing when the next siren sounded to announce the end of the Sabbath. I used to call them SHABBAT COPS.

Once, I and a friend of mine followed them around taking pictures to sell to the newspapers. Since taking pictures involves "completing an electric circuit" it was considered by Rabbinical Law to be equivalent to "lighting a fire" which is forbidden to do on Shabbat. Once we had taken a picture we had to flee lest the crowd of black-coated zealots lay hold of us and punish us for our transgression.

I understand you sincerely believe keeping Shabbat is mandatory for all new covenant believers in Jesus Christ. Well enough, I kept Shabbat for many years. However, in coming to these conclusions you have given insufficient attention to what the NT says through the Apostles Paul, Peter and the others who had been entrusted with gospel of salvation.

Paul, shows he was not a lawless "Antinomian" when he wrote:
5 For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure, or greedy person (that is, an idolater), has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of SUCH THINGS [ i.e., immoral behavior rather than Shabbat-breaking ] the wrath of God is coming on the sons of disobedience.…(Ephesians 5:5)
If Paul had believed that not keeping Shabbat was a "moral sin" that could potentially cause a person to inherit the wrath of God do you not think he would have warned His (largely Gentile) audience about it?
Instead, the Apostle warned them not to listen to the words of Judaizers and Ebionites who attempting to bring them back under the covenant laws of Moses and Abraham which had then completed the purpose for which they were instituted.

15 And having disarmed the powers and authorities, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross. 16 THEREFORE [in light of the supreme authority Christ has obtained]
let no one judge you by what you eat or drink, [by whether we eat a kosher diet]
or with regard to a feast, a New Moon, [i.e. by whether we keep the Jewish festivals]
or a Sabbath. [since this is left unspecified we must take it to mean ANY Shabbat whether it pertains to weekly Shabbats or festival Shabbats] 17 These are a shadow of the things to come, but the body that casts the shadow [the spiritual reality] belongs to Christ.…(Colossians 2:15-17)

 

[SabbathBlessing]

15 And having disarmed the powers and authorities, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross. 16 THEREFORE [in light of the supreme authority Christ has obtained]
let no one judge you by what you eat or drink, [by whether we eat a kosher diet]
or with regard to a feast, a New Moon, [i.e. by whether we keep the Jewish festivals]
or a Sabbath. [since this is left unspecified we must take it to mean ANY Shabbat whether it pertains to weekly Shabbats or festival Shabbats] 17 These are a shadow of the things to come, but the body that casts the shadow [the spiritual reality] belongs to Christ.…(Colossians 2:15-17)

There is some context that was left out of the passage that tells us what Paul is speaking about and its quoting OT. Its in the exact same sequence that is always used when the OT is speaking of the annual feast days that some were also called sabbath(s) I can show you this exact sequence in the NT.

That's said, lets look at the context of this passage closer:

Col 2:8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.

According to Paul everything has to be according to Christ and it even came with a serious warning of being cheated, so lets not be cheated of the blessing God is trying to give us Isa56:2. So Paul after saying this is just going to dismiss one of the commandments of God written by God Himself that He called His Testimony? Jesus in His own words said the Sabbath would not end at His cross Mat24:20 Isa66:23 and He is LORD of the Sabbath- so either Paul is a rebel or one is misunderstanding him and not allowing the context of this passage to explain itself.


This was let out for some reason:

Colossians 2:14

“Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross.”

Jesus said the Sabbath was made FOR man, not against man.

handwriting of ordinances

The Greek phrase is cheirographon tois dogmasin.

cheirographon = a handwritten record of debt or charges
dogmasin = decrees, regulations, or requirements

Its a record that was held against man.

Can you show me from Scripture who wrote the handwritten ordinances that were against man. This is what Paul is quoting.

Can you show me from Scripture what are the shadow laws? These are connected what is being discussed in Col2:14-17 its all connected. The Bible clearly defines these laws.

What was it that Jesus predicted to end at His death that is all connected to this passage? The Ten Commandments? No He came to magnify this law Isa42:21

If you can find the answers to these questions which is on our Bibles you will find it as plain as how God wrote His commandments this passage is not about the Sabbath in the 4th commandment, but the sabbath(s) that are connected to food and drink offerings and animal sacrifices in the law of Moses handwritten by Moses placed beside the ark as a witness against thee.

 

[SabbathBlessing]

There is some context that was left out of the passage that tells us what Paul is speaking about and its quoting OT. Its in the exact same sequence that is always used when the OT is speaking of the annual feast days that some were also called sabbath(s) I can show you this exact sequence in the NT.

I meant OT. I wish we could edit longer.