The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?

[vassal]

this is off topic but ill make this exception since it was discussed.

The Sabbath Still Stands: Why "Any Day Will Do" Cannot Be Found in the Words of Jesus​

Many believers today are told the seventh day Sabbath no longer applies, that Jesus is now our Sabbath rest and any day will do. But Jesus Himself said:

"Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled."(Matthew 5:17-18 NKJV)

He also declared: "For the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath." (Matthew 12:8 NKJV). You do not declare yourself Lord of something you are abolishing. And keeping it was His own regular habit: "As His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day." (Luke 4:16 NKJV)

The "any day is the Sabbath" teaching comes from three passages in Paul's letters that have been seriously misread.

Romans 14:5 says one person esteems one day above another. But the word Sabbath does not appear once in Romans 14. The entire chapter is about food and fasting. Paul was addressing fast days, not the weekly Sabbath.

Galatians 4:10-11 mentions observing days and seasons. But the whole letter addresses people trying to earn salvation through ceremonies. Paul was opposing that specific abuse, not cancelling the Sabbath commandment.

Colossians 2:16 does mention sabbaths. But the context is Gnostic teachers imposing rules on believers. Paul was protecting them from outside judgment, not eliminating God's appointed day.

Colossians 2:17 calls the Sabbath a shadow of things to come. But notice the tense. Paul writes that it still IS a shadow of things to come, not that it WAS. The Sabbath still points forward to Christ's coming kingdom rest. The shadow has not yet fully landed.

Hebrews 4:9 makes this even clearer: "There remains therefore a rest for the people of God." (NKJV). The Greek word used is sabbatismos, meaning literal Sabbath keeping. The writer says it REMAINS. That word points forward, not backward.

The clearest proof that Jesus expected the Sabbath to continue after His resurrection is this. Speaking about the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD, decades after the cross, He told His followers: "And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath." (Matthew 24:20 NKJV). Why mention the Sabbath at all if the day had already been spiritualised away?

Matthew 11:28 where Jesus says come to Me and I will give you rest is a real and beautiful promise. But it is rest for your soul in relationship with Him. It is not a calendar announcement cancelling the fourth commandment. These are two different kinds of rest and mixing them creates confusion Jesus never intended.

The honest conclusion is this. The "any day Sabbath" teaching cannot be found in the words of Jesus. It comes from misreading Paul's letters out of context. Romans 14 is about food. Galatians 4 is about pagan calendar superstition used for justification. Colossians 2 is about Gnostic teachers judging believers. None of them cancel the seventh day.

"There remains therefore a rest for the people of God." (Hebrews 4:9 NKJV)

The seventh day Sabbath still stands. Not because of tradition. Not because of Moses. Because Jesus said so, and His words are first and final.

 

[Dino246]

This is God speaking. Exo20:1 This is His own written Testimony Exo31:18 the Ten Commandments. In the Ten Commandments He tells us His Sabbath was made at Creation Exo20:11 for man Mark2:28- before Jew, before Moses, before Israel just man and God. Where there is no law there is no sin. Rom4:15 Did Adam and Eve sin from the very beginning? They did, therefore they broke the law of God. Did God say it was sin for Cain to murder his brother- where did that commandment come from? No law no sin. I can prove from Scripture all Ten Commandments were sin before Mt Sinai, because its the law of God- God wrote them, they are in God's Heavenly Temple Rev11:19 they belong to God, its His standard of righteousness Psa119:172 Isa 56:1-2 which is eternal which means no beginning no end- its the foundation of His throne Psa89:14

All irrelevant because you cited Exodus 20:11 with the claim that the Ten Commandments existed before Moses. That verse does not support your assertion. That is you misrepresenting the Scripture.

 

[SabbathBlessing]

All irrelevant because you cited Exodus 20:11 with the claim that the Ten Commandments existed before Moses. That verse does not support your assertion. That is you misrepresenting the Scripture.

when did God make heaven and earth? Not at Mt Sinai.

 

[Dino246]

when did God make heaven and earth? Not at Mt Sinai.

You just keep sidestepping accountability for misrepresenting Scripture.

You lack integrity.

 

[vassal]

Your correct Dino, the written law did not exist until Exodus 24.

As usual Dino is wrong he does know his bible, its a shame that man is smart, imagine if he did. The scriptural evidence suggests the Hebrews had at least partial knowledge of divine commandments well before the formal covenant ceremony of Exodus 24. The most pointed example is Exodus 16, where God rebukes the people saying "How long do you refuse to keep my commandments and my laws?" using the full legal vocabulary of mitzvot and torah before the Decalogue is even given in Exodus 20. This creates a real textual tension: the people are being held accountable for laws that haven't yet been formally promulgated.

The Sabbath case is particularly telling because the text roots it in creation itself (Genesis 2:3), implying it was part of the created order and not a Sinaitic innovation. When God rebukes Israel in Exodus 16, he seems to be reminding them of something they were already responsible for knowing. Just prior to this, in Exodus 15:25-26 at Marah, God gives Israel "a statute and a rule" and speaks conditionally about obedience, which many commentators read as a preliminary legal transaction, a kind of foretaste of Sinai.

Going further back, Genesis 26:5 records God saying Abraham obeyed "my commandments, my statutes, and my laws," using the same legislative vocabulary as the Mosaic code, which strongly implies a prior body of divine instruction existed in the patriarchal period. The moral substance of the law also appears to be assumed throughout Genesis. Joseph appeals to sin against God when rejecting Potiphar's wife, Judah presupposes norms around sexual conduct, and murder carries formal divine sanction as far back as the Noahic covenant in Genesis 9.

That said, Exodus 24 is clearly presented as something genuinely new. The people's solemn response, the blood of the covenant, and the inaugural ceremony all point to a formal, corporate, and explicit ratification that had not happened before. Paul's argument in Romans 5:13 and Galatians 3:17 also treats the Mosaic law as a distinct historical introduction. The best reading of the evidence is probably that the moral and ritual core of the law was known and operative through natural law, the Noahic covenant, and patriarchal tradition, but Sinai represents its formal covenantal promulgation to Israel as a constituted nation, binding them in a way that was qualitatively new even if the content was not entirely so.

 

[vassal]

You need to correct the following sentence.



The following sentence is the correct version as per the N.T.

Do you understand now the importance of the ten commandments that God called the old Covenant?

What i post here You know already but you're are still poking and prodding trying...
The claim that the Ten Commandments should be relabeled "the old covenant" reflects a common but imprecise reading of Scripture. Here is what the biblical text actually says.

God himself named the Ten Commandments "the covenant." In Exodus 34:28 it is written that Moses "wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments." Deuteronomy 4:13 is even more direct: "He declared to you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, that is, the Ten Commandments, and he wrote them on two tablets of stone." And in Deuteronomy 9:9 Moses refers to "the tablets of the covenant." The identification is not a theological inference, it is a plain statement repeated multiple times in the text. God called the Ten Commandments the covenant. That is the language of Scripture itself.

Nowhere in the Old Testament does God call this covenant "old." The word "old" is never applied to it by God or by Moses. It is simply the covenant, spoken directly by God, written by the finger of God, and placed inside the ark which was itself called the ark of the covenant.

The designation "new covenant" does not originate with a revision of the Ten Commandments. It originates with Jeremiah 31:31-33, where God promises "I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel," and crucially he describes its content as "I will put my law within them and write it on their hearts." The law is not replaced in this passage, it is internalized. The newness is about the mode of the covenant, not the abolition of its moral content.

Jesus himself is the one who formally inaugurates this new covenant. At the Last Supper in Luke 22:20 he takes the cup and says "This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood." In Matthew 26:28 he says "this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins." Jesus is the one who introduces the word "new" into the covenant language, and he does so by pointing to his own blood as the inaugurating act, not by relabeling the Ten Commandments.

The letter to the Hebrews develops this most fully. Hebrews 8:6-7 says Jesus "is the mediator of a better covenant, which is enacted on better promises. For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion to look for a second." Hebrews 9:15 calls Jesus "the mediator of a new covenant." The argument of Hebrews is not that the Ten Commandments were merely an old administrative arrangement to be discarded, but that the sacrificial and priestly system pointed forward to Christ and found its fulfillment in him.

So to directly answer the objection: God never called his covenant "old." That label is a retrospective one applied by New Testament writers looking back after the inauguration of the new covenant by Jesus. The new covenant was not introduced by revising the name of the Ten Commandments. It was introduced by Jesus Christ himself, through his blood, his death, and his resurrection, by his Grace and mercy, in direct fulfillment of what Jeremiah had foretold. Changing the phrase in your original sentence to read "the old covenant" is not a correction the New Testament makes. It is an addition that subtly implies the Ten Commandments have been superseded in a way that neither Jesus nor the apostles actually taught.

 

[vassal]

It is always true that we must OBEY what God tells us but there is ample evidence in the writings of the Apostles that we no longer have to obey every statute and practice which was commanded under the Old Covenant because that covenant has now been rendered OBSOLETE by the advent of a NEW and better Covenant.

prove it show us the verses, (there is none except the 4 items in acts 15, just want to save you time) if you find a verse let me know.

Also define the new covenant what is it according to scripture?

 

[Inquisitor]

As usual Dino is wrong he does know his bible, its a shame that man is smart, imagine if he did. The scriptural evidence suggests the Hebrews had at least partial knowledge of divine commandments well before the formal covenant ceremony of Exodus 24. The most pointed example is Exodus 16, where God rebukes the people saying "How long do you refuse to keep my commandments and my laws?" using the full legal vocabulary of mitzvot and torah before the Decalogue is even given in Exodus 20. This creates a real textual tension: the people are being held accountable for laws that haven't yet been formally promulgated.

The Sabbath case is particularly telling because the text roots it in creation itself (Genesis 2:3), implying it was part of the created order and not a Sinaitic innovation. When God rebukes Israel in Exodus 16, he seems to be reminding them of something they were already responsible for knowing. Just prior to this, in Exodus 15:25-26 at Marah, God gives Israel "a statute and a rule" and speaks conditionally about obedience, which many commentators read as a preliminary legal transaction, a kind of foretaste of Sinai.

Going further back, Genesis 26:5 records God saying Abraham obeyed "my commandments, my statutes, and my laws," using the same legislative vocabulary as the Mosaic code, which strongly implies a prior body of divine instruction existed in the patriarchal period. The moral substance of the law also appears to be assumed throughout Genesis. Joseph appeals to sin against God when rejecting Potiphar's wife, Judah presupposes norms around sexual conduct, and murder carries formal divine sanction as far back as the Noahic covenant in Genesis 9.

That said, Exodus 24 is clearly presented as something genuinely new. The people's solemn response, the blood of the covenant, and the inaugural ceremony all point to a formal, corporate, and explicit ratification that had not happened before. Paul's argument in Romans 5:13 and Galatians 3:17 also treats the Mosaic law as a distinct historical introduction. The best reading of the evidence is probably that the moral and ritual core of the law was known and operative through natural law, the Noahic covenant, and patriarchal tradition, but Sinai represents its formal covenantal promulgation to Israel as a constituted nation, binding them in a way that was qualitatively new even if the content was not entirely so.

The commandments were written down by Moses in Exodus 24.

It is at this point in world history when these 10 commandments became codified LAW.

Up until Exodus 24, the ten commandments as a set of laws were not codified LAW.

Israel was ignorant of the codified LAW until Exodus 24.

The first, fourth, and tenth commandments were definitely unknown to Israel as codified LAW before Exodus 24.

Codified LAW is written LAW with penalties attached.

The first commandment is interesting in that God announces Himself to Israel, shown below.

I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.
You shall have no other gods before Me.

This first commandment was only given to Israel and to no other nation, fact!

So the idea that the first commandment existed before Exodus 24, as codified law. Is patently false,
I request that you never again say that the first commandment was eternal, moral, or known by anyone.

Rome and Egypt never knew that first commandment nor did anyone else.

 

[Inquisitor]

As usual Dino is wrong he does know his bible, its a shame that man is smart, imagine if he did. The scriptural evidence suggests the Hebrews had at least partial knowledge of divine commandments well before the formal covenant ceremony of Exodus 24.

Before Exodus 24, no country including Israel had the ten commandments as codified law.

Before Exodus 24, even Israel did not have the codified ten commandments with the penalties.

To claim before Exodus 24, that Rome or Egypt had the codified ten commandments is a blatant lie.

This proves that the ten commandments are not eternal.

 

[Dino246]

As usual Dino is wrong he does know his bible, its a shame that man is smart, imagine if he did. The scriptural evidence suggests the Hebrews had at least partial knowledge of divine commandments well before the formal covenant ceremony of Exodus 24. The most pointed example is Exodus 16, where God rebukes the people saying "How long do you refuse to keep my commandments and my laws?" using the full legal vocabulary of mitzvot and torah before the Decalogue is even given in Exodus 20. This creates a real textual tension: the people are being held accountable for laws that haven't yet been formally promulgated.

The Sabbath case is particularly telling because the text roots it in creation itself (Genesis 2:3), implying it was part of the created order and not a Sinaitic innovation. When God rebukes Israel in Exodus 16, he seems to be reminding them of something they were already responsible for knowing. Just prior to this, in Exodus 15:25-26 at Marah, God gives Israel "a statute and a rule" and speaks conditionally about obedience, which many commentators read as a preliminary legal transaction, a kind of foretaste of Sinai.

Going further back, Genesis 26:5 records God saying Abraham obeyed "my commandments, my statutes, and my laws," using the same legislative vocabulary as the Mosaic code, which strongly implies a prior body of divine instruction existed in the patriarchal period. The moral substance of the law also appears to be assumed throughout Genesis. Joseph appeals to sin against God when rejecting Potiphar's wife, Judah presupposes norms around sexual conduct, and murder carries formal divine sanction as far back as the Noahic covenant in Genesis 9.

That said, Exodus 24 is clearly presented as something genuinely new. The people's solemn response, the blood of the covenant, and the inaugural ceremony all point to a formal, corporate, and explicit ratification that had not happened before. Paul's argument in Romans 5:13 and Galatians 3:17 also treats the Mosaic law as a distinct historical introduction. The best reading of the evidence is probably that the moral and ritual core of the law was known and operative through natural law, the Noahic covenant, and patriarchal tradition, but Sinai represents its formal covenantal promulgation to Israel as a constituted nation, binding them in a way that was qualitatively new even if the content was not entirely so.

Blah blah blah.

Does Exodus 20:11 say that the Ten Commandments existed before Moses?

No, it doesn’t.

Whether they did is irrelevant in light of the fact that the Scripture was misrepresented.

 

[vassal]

Before Exodus 24, no country including Israel had the ten commandments as codified law.

Before Exodus 24, even Israel did not have the codified ten commandments with the penalties.

To claim before Exodus 24, that Rome or Egypt had the codified ten commandments is a blatant lie.

This proves that the ten commandments are not eternal.

look in the book revelation where the ARK of the COVENANT was seen.... not eternal? when will they be void?

 

[Inquisitor]

look in the book revelation where the ARK of the COVENANT was seen.... not eternal? when will they be void?

Your joking.

I told you that Rome and Egypt had no natural, legal sense, of the written first commandment.

The first commandment was given to Israel in written form with penalties, codified law in Exodus 24.

Don't you dare infer that Egypt and Rome knew the first commandment as codified law.

Do not ever say that Rome had the first commandment because it was only known to Israel.

The ark of the covenant that Israel had was after the codified law given in Exodus 24, not before.

There were no stone tablets in Exodus 24 and Rome never knew of the stone tablets.

To infer that the ark of the covenant in heaven has significance for eternity, is a desperate and
erroneous. Attempt to justify a flawed theology that claims Adam had the ten commandments.

Adam had the ten words in written form with penalties attached.

 

[Inquisitor]

this is off topic but ill make this exception since it was discussed.

The Sabbath Still Stands: Why "Any Day Will Do" Cannot Be Found in the Words of Jesus​

Many believers today are told the seventh day Sabbath no longer applies, that Jesus is now our Sabbath rest and any day will do. But Jesus Himself said:

"Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled."(Matthew 5:17-18 NKJV)

He also declared: "For the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath." (Matthew 12:8 NKJV). You do not declare yourself Lord of something you are abolishing. And keeping it was His own regular habit: "As His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day." (Luke 4:16 NKJV)

The "any day is the Sabbath" teaching comes from three passages in Paul's letters that have been seriously misread.

Romans 14:5 says one person esteems one day above another. But the word Sabbath does not appear once in Romans 14. The entire chapter is about food and fasting. Paul was addressing fast days, not the weekly Sabbath.

Galatians 4:10-11 mentions observing days and seasons. But the whole letter addresses people trying to earn salvation through ceremonies. Paul was opposing that specific abuse, not cancelling the Sabbath commandment.

Colossians 2:16 does mention sabbaths. But the context is Gnostic teachers imposing rules on believers. Paul was protecting them from outside judgment, not eliminating God's appointed day.

Colossians 2:17 calls the Sabbath a shadow of things to come. But notice the tense. Paul writes that it still IS a shadow of things to come, not that it WAS. The Sabbath still points forward to Christ's coming kingdom rest. The shadow has not yet fully landed.

Hebrews 4:9 makes this even clearer: "There remains therefore a rest for the people of God." (NKJV). The Greek word used is sabbatismos, meaning literal Sabbath keeping. The writer says it REMAINS. That word points forward, not backward.

The clearest proof that Jesus expected the Sabbath to continue after His resurrection is this. Speaking about the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD, decades after the cross, He told His followers: "And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath." (Matthew 24:20 NKJV). Why mention the Sabbath at all if the day had already been spiritualised away?

Matthew 11:28 where Jesus says come to Me and I will give you rest is a real and beautiful promise. But it is rest for your soul in relationship with Him. It is not a calendar announcement cancelling the fourth commandment. These are two different kinds of rest and mixing them creates confusion Jesus never intended.

The honest conclusion is this. The "any day Sabbath" teaching cannot be found in the words of Jesus. It comes from misreading Paul's letters out of context. Romans 14 is about food. Galatians 4 is about pagan calendar superstition used for justification. Colossians 2 is about Gnostic teachers judging believers. None of them cancel the seventh day.

"There remains therefore a rest for the people of God." (Hebrews 4:9 NKJV)

The seventh day Sabbath still stands. Not because of tradition. Not because of Moses. Because Jesus said so, and His words are first and final.

Some how your going to explain how the first commandment was known from creation.

When we know, for a fact, that no one knew the first commandment of Exodus 24.

I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.
You shall have no other gods before Me.

There is the first commandment, how could anyone know that as a commandment with a penalty.

Your house of cards has collapsed.

 

[Just_A__Follower]

Happy Sabbath my friend. There will always be mockers, keep them in your prayers.

God bless.

And @vassal If you’re claiming to observe the Sabbath, it’s worth remembering that traditionally the Sabbath is meant to be a day of rest from work and ordinary activities including using technology. In Jewish observance of Shabbat, for example, people avoid things like computers, phones, and posting online so the day can stay focused on rest and worship. Just something to think about if you’re saying you’re honoring the Sabbath while actively posting here.

 

[JimiSurvivor]

The New Covenant was formed between God and the human race when the perfect Lamb gave Himself to die and shed His blood to atone for our sins. His Resurrection demonstrated that His mission succeeded and that He now has the authority to overthrow Satan's dominion over us and RELEASE us (and ultimately, the whole cosmos) from bondage. If you do not believe these fundamental truths let me know now before we get into an extended discussion.

In addition, if you are one of those who, like the Judaizers or Ebionites who believes that we are saved by obedience to the gospel call to repentance and faith PLUS a committment to keep Shabbat, let me know that too for this is contrary to the gospel of salvation.

As Paul wrote: 19 Now we [i.e., he and the other NT teachers and apostles] KNOW that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. 20 Therefore NO ONE WILL BE JUSTIFIED [considered righteous] in His sight by works of the law (including the laws pertaining to keeping Shabbat). For the law merely brings awareness of sin.
21 But now, apart from the [Mosaic] law, the righteousness of God has been revealed, as attested by the Law and the Prophets 22 And this righteousness from God comes (to us) through faith in Jesus Christ to all who BELIEVE. There is no distinction,
23 for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.
25 God presented Him as an ATONING SACRIFICE in His blood through faith, in order to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance He had [prior to the cross] passed over the sins committed beforehand. 26 He did this to demonstrate His righteousness at the PRESENT TIME so as to be just and to justify the one who has faith in Jesus. 27 Where, then, is boasting [about keeping the Law]? It is excluded. On what principle? On that of WORKS? No, but on that of FAITH. 28 For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the law.
(Romans 3:19-25)

I always tell people to study and learn the customs, practices of the worship system as it existed before the cross. Having done it myself I have found much truth hidden in the types and shadows. However, the writer of Hebrews reminds us that
1....the law is only a shadow of the good things to come, not the realities themselves. It can never, by the same sacrifices offered year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship. 2 If it could, would not the offerings have ceased? For the worshipers would have been cleansed once for all, and would no longer have felt the guilt of their sins.…
(Hebrews 8:1-2)

 

[JimiSurvivor]

And @vassal If you’re claiming to observe the Sabbath, it’s worth remembering that traditionally the Sabbath is meant to be a day of rest from work and ordinary activities including using technology. In Jewish observance of Shabbat, for example, people avoid things like computers, phones, and posting online so the day can stay focused on rest and worship. Just something to think about if you’re saying you’re honoring the Sabbath while actively posting here.

Since travelling is also forbidden on Shabbat, this would also include traveling to a place of worship. This is why the Ultra-Orthodox can always been seen walking to their Beit Haknessets (Synogogues), wife and children following behind. It is why they choose to live in close proximity to their places of worship. After all, a "Sabbath Day's Journey" is reckoned to be about 2,000 cubits (approximately 0.6 miles or 1 kilometer). While I did not hold all their beliefs I had to admire the Hasidim's consistency. They were definitely not dilettantes.

 

[SabbathBlessing]

And @vassal If you’re claiming to observe the Sabbath, it’s worth remembering that traditionally the Sabbath is meant to be a day of rest from work and ordinary activities including using technology. In Jewish observance of Shabbat, for example, people avoid things like computers, phones, and posting online so the day can stay focused on rest and worship. Just something to think about if you’re saying you’re honoring the Sabbath while actively posting here.

This sounds like a rule of the Pharisees what Jesus was consistently correcting.

The Sabbath is about keeping the Sabbath day holy Exo20:8 resting from work and labors to do so, so we can focus and honor God Isa58:13

So please show me in Scripture where communicating with someone on the Sabbath not allowed? when was reasoning with others with the Scriptures not allowed on the Sabbath. Please post verses for me. Thanks

 

[SabbathBlessing]

Since travelling is also forbidden on Shabbat, this would also include traveling to a place of worship. This is why the Ultra-Orthodox can always been seen walking to their Beit Haknessets (Synogogues), wife and children following behind. It is why they choose to live in close proximity to their places of worship. After all, a "Sabbath Day's Journey" is reckoned to be about 2,000 cubits (approximately 0.6 miles or 1 kilometer). While I did not hold all their beliefs I had to admire the Hasidim's consistency. They were definitely not dilettantes.

So are you claiming Jesus and the apostles sinned because they traveled on the Sabbath to the place of worship every Sabbath. Please quote the verse saying one can't travel on the Sabbath for worship services. This sounds similar to the accusations made by the Pharisees because they too never really understood God's Sabbath.

 

[TMS]

Some how your going to explain how the first commandment was known from creation.

When we know, for a fact, that no one knew the first commandment of Exodus 24.

I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.
You shall have no other gods before Me.

There is the first commandment, how could anyone know that as a commandment with a penalty.

Your house of cards has collapsed.

Exo 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

It is the principle.

The way it is presented not the issue.

When Adam and Eve were created do you believe this principle of not having other God's was not known.

The God that created the world and made man in His image was the same God that saved Israel from Egypt and the same God that Jesus is.

The principle is the same and the God I worship does not change.

Do you think this principle of not having any other gods was different in Adam's day?

 

[SabbathBlessing]

The New Covenant was formed between God and the human race when the perfect Lamb gave Himself to die and shed His blood to atone for our sins. His Resurrection demonstrated that His mission succeeded and that He now has the authority to overthrow Satan's dominion over us and RELEASE us (and ultimately, the whole cosmos) from bondage. If you do not believe these fundamental truths let me know now before we get into an extended discussion.

In addition, if you are one of those who, like the Judaizers or Ebionites who believes that we are saved by obedience to the gospel call to repentance and faith PLUS a committment to keep Shabbat, let me know that too for this is contrary to the gospel of salvation.

As Paul wrote: 19 Now we [i.e., he and the other NT teachers and apostles] KNOW that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. 20 Therefore NO ONE WILL BE JUSTIFIED [considered righteous] in His sight by works of the law (including the laws pertaining to keeping Shabbat). For the law merely brings awareness of sin.
21 But now, apart from the [Mosaic] law, the righteousness of God has been revealed, as attested by the Law and the Prophets 22 And this righteousness from God comes (to us) through faith in Jesus Christ to all who BELIEVE. There is no distinction,
23 for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.
25 God presented Him as an ATONING SACRIFICE in His blood through faith, in order to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance He had [prior to the cross] passed over the sins committed beforehand. 26 He did this to demonstrate His righteousness at the PRESENT TIME so as to be just and to justify the one who has faith in Jesus. 27 Where, then, is boasting [about keeping the Law]? It is excluded. On what principle? On that of WORKS? No, but on that of FAITH. 28 For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the law.
(Romans 3:19-25)

I always tell people to study and learn the customs, practices of the worship system as it existed before the cross. Having done it myself I have found much truth hidden in the types and shadows. However, the writer of Hebrews reminds us that
1....the law is only a shadow of the good things to come, not the realities themselves. It can never, by the same sacrifices offered year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship. 2 If it could, would not the offerings have ceased? For the worshipers would have been cleansed once for all, and would no longer have felt the guilt of their sins.…
(Hebrews 8:1-2)

So you claim keeping the Sabbath is "work" and God said it's rest. I am going to stick with what God says.

This idea obeying God the way God asks is work and bad so the solution is to disobey God and sin so Jesus can say depart from Me Mat7:23 Heb10:26-30 Mat5:19-30.

Its why Paul comes with a salvation warning of completely misunderstanding him.

Its weird you missed the last verse in this passage

Rom3:31Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law.

The works of the law has always been animal sacrifices for sin. Taking an animal sacrifice for sin and why doing this law after the Cross is in vain, because Jesus died for our sins and only His blood can take away sins why He had to die Heb10:1-10

BUT Jesus never came so we can continue in sin, He came to save us from our sins. Sin is still breaking the law of God in both OT and NT 1John3:4 James2:11 because God's righteousness Psa 119:172 Isa56:1-2 is eternal no beginning no end. Psa119:142 its the foundation of His throne. Psa89:14

The faith part is what saves us, the action always follows true faith. Anyone can say Lord Lord but He is looking for people who does His will over their own Mat7:21-23 Luke6:46-48