Obama says UFO exists

[Citizen]

You mentioned Jet Propulsion Labs founder Jack Parsons.
I've spent too many hours reading his history and listening to the documentaries on his wicked life and business dealings. As Christians we should not be deceived by the Satanists like him and Alister Crowley are often credited for the modern "higher evolved being" space alien movement.

I know, right? He was absolutely brilliant and his story is fascinating, but he was an avid satanist. It makes me wonder how many of his scientific ideas and discoveries were his, and how many potentially came through the rituals. It's strange to think that everything we know about rockets, propulsion, etc. could be down to knowledge gained from demons.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

I know people put Project Blue Beam down as conspiracy theory, which is fine, but here's how I look at it -

1. Is hologram tech quickly moving forward and progressing? Yes.
2. Can they project giant holograms in the sky right now? Yes.
2. Is it possible for a government, corporation, or organization to abuse the technology and project holograms of a spaceship, false god/false christ? Yes.

To me it doesn't matter what anyone calls it. It just matters that it's possible. The idea of tech being abused to usher in a false christ isn't impossible considering where we are technology-wise.

We see from history that evil people in positions of power will use their power to achieve their goals. Considering that, I think it's a given that they will try that if they think that enough people will fall for it.
Their goal to implode economies and mass destruction to bring in their NWO seems like a likely possibility for that.

 

[Brasspen]

If it came from the demons, I can tell you the tech is not as good as it might have been.

Stunted and heading in wrong direction for development.

 

[TruthDefender]

You mentioned Jet Propulsion Labs founder Jack Parsons.
I've spent too many hours reading his history and listening to the documentaries on his wicked life and business dealings. As Christians we should not be deceived by the Satanists like him and Alister Crowley who originated the modern "higher evolved being" space alien movement.

Demons are not flesh and blood, they’re evil spirits. You can see this from the Bible. Demons possess people.

Even the native Americans identify them as star people, not spirit; they’re physical.
If we visit another planet, are we not considered aliens? Idk why this is such a hard thing to comprehend!?

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

I know, right? He was absolutely brilliant and his story is fascinating, but he was an avid satanist. It makes me wonder how many of his scientific ideas and discoveries were his, and how many potentially came through the rituals. It's strange to think that everything we know about rockets, propulsion, etc. could be down to knowledge gained from demons.

They've had thousands of years of learning from humans as well. It seems like the nooks are for annihilating humanity, so it seems plausible that their hand is involved with D@RPA and all tech designed to destroy us.
The Devil's driving desire is to steal, kill and destroy.

 

[Brasspen]

With all the telescopes in the sky, we don't never see a ship.
The sats in orbit don't see them either.

 

[TruthDefender]

There are certain Native American groups who consider Bigfoot/ Sasquatch to be spirit. This is completely wrong, because they’re flesh and blood just like every other animal. They may possess different God given properties, but they can die. Demons and spirits live on.

 

[Brasspen]

Another problem with the aliens, is they would be a long long long way from home. A long way from home in a very small ship.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Demons are not flesh and blood, they’re evil spirits. You can see this from the Bible. Demons possess people.

Even the native Americans identify them as star people, not spirit; they’re physical.
If we visit another planet, are we not considered aliens? Idk why this is such a hard thing to comprehend!?

Demons use humanity as they use the things we make.
They even have powers to manipulate physical objects. This isn't important because they have power to manipulate humans to do exactly as told.
Is it any wonder that demons can make stuff through people?
Perhaps they have learned enough over the 6,000 years to impress unbelievers into believing their lies that there are highly evolved sentient beings like Anninakis or whatever.
L. Ron Hubbard wrote umpteen books that apparently intelligent people follow as their New Age religion. The celebrities promote it to give it credibility just like they used millions of others to promote their religion of Evil-ution.

 

[TruthDefender]

Another problem with the aliens, is they would be a long long long way from home. A long way from home in a very small ship.

How do you know? Why couldn’t they go through wormholes, Einstein’s R bridge, if they came from another galaxy?
What makes you think their crafts are small?

There are commercial pilots who have witnessed massive ships who could hold 100’s of beings. It was just hovering about 30k feet up, just over Alaska.

Many, if not all, astronauts have seen UAEs zoom past them. Also interesting to note, UFOs are able to fly higher than jets at much higher speeds, hover, and then submerse into water.

 

[Citizen]

I gave u links that provide evidence that they exist. Some of these people worked in classified programs, and saw them. You just have to read and listen to the accounts. Many military branches know about them, and that they’re not from this world.

It’s only recently that classified documents have been declassified. There is a host of info here. Obviously, if one is not interested in this subject they won’t know the simplistic bites of info.

The same goes for BF.

Are you kidding? One link is to a series of 10 videos with free trial. Nope. Another links to a plethora of more videos on assorted subjects. Nope. I'm not wading through hours and hours of video to prove your statements. That's for you to do.

To recap: You stated that aliens exist and you know what they are, and you point to the videos as evidence. You can therefore tell me specifically where in the videos the solid, irrefutable, and verifiable evidence can be found to support your claims. Thanks.

 

[Brasspen]

Maybe, but you don't never see a picture of them. You only words. And when a picture does show up, it's always proven false.
The news stations have not talked about them in many years.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Demons are not flesh and blood, they’re evil spirits. You can see this from the Bible. Demons possess people.

Even the native Americans identify them as star people, not spirit; they’re physical.
If we visit another planet, are we not considered aliens? Idk why this is such a hard thing to comprehend!?

I comprehend that.
I just rejected the theory when I realized that God's Words are true.
The faith in the existence of higher evolved beings is a belief system that rejects God and considers it a fiction.
When I got saved, I asked myself, is the whole Bible true, or am I going to pick and choose what I want to believe like I pick and choose what I want to eat at the China buffet.

I asked and received answers that were not those of the extraterrestrial beings channeling through their human hosts.

I was raised to be a hard core Darwin macroEvolutionist.
I taught my preschool class on a Television show my beliefs about dinosaurs and how they got here. I had the books to prove it.

I am familiar with the religious beliefs of Steven Greer. He makes those known in every interview I've listened to. That took hours, not a few minutes. No doubt about it, he's intelligent and seems very sincere.
However , I wonder why he would lead people away from faith in Christ to faith in the story of beings not made in His image? Why would the foundation of his beliefs contradict the teachings of the Bible?

Believing what Jesus said and Who He is led to me trusting Him alone for His free gift of everlasting life.

Since I decided to receive that gift that He bought, I had to decide whether the entire Bible was true, or fiction. Were the writers of secular text books my final authorities?

These might be good questions to get answered considering you certainly are a truth seeker.

 

[Citizen]

I gave u links that provide evidence that they exist. Some of these people worked in classified programs, and saw them. You just have to read and listen to the accounts. Many military branches know about them, and that they’re not from this world.

Just a few other thoughts -

When you say "You just have to read and listen to the accounts" what you're really saying is that we're supposed to read, listen, and trust. That's a problem.

You are trusting that the people claiming to have worked in classified programs are telling the truth about who they are, what they did, and what they saw. People can fabricate stories, people can be deluded, people can mistake what they've seen. There are SO many variables here, so I'm not sure why you've placed your faith in people who at best can say "Trust me, I saw something.". That's not good enough and it's not actual evidence. Even videos and photos cannot be trusted anymore.

Basically, there is no way to prove the existence of flesh and blood aliens unless we observe them for ourselves, and even then we should be testing the spirits and questioning everything.

Aren’t demons spirit? Aliens aren’t spirit.

You can't prove what aliens are or are not, but 'testing the spirits' doesn't negate flesh and blood. Read this again:

1 Jn 4:1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

The passage says to test the spirits, and in this case of a flesh and blood person - such as false prophets - to see if they're from God. Similarly, if a person has an encounter with what they think is an alien, they should be testing that spirit no matter what.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Demons are not flesh and blood, they’re evil spirits. You can see this from the Bible. Demons possess people.

Even the native Americans identify them as star people, not spirit; they’re physical.
If we visit another planet, are we not considered aliens? Idk why this is such a hard thing to comprehend!?

I agree with you. The Indians were connected with this subject. They saw these creatures.
What religion were most native Americans practicing?
Wasn't it Animism, worshipping nature?

23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. 24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Romans 1

When the demon spirit appeared to the Satanist Crowley, the demons decided that the time was right to push their alien deception. The religion of Evolution was paving the way in the government schools.

What do you think this looks like?

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Two shorts @TruthDefender
An entity showed high tech to Jack Parsons.

You've probably listened to those who claimed that they were abducted.
What do they usually describe?
Creepy beings that do perverted things to them.
Those who channel them speak in another voice and teach doctrines that blaspheme Jesus Christ.
What would aliens have against Jesus?

 

[TruthDefender]

I comprehend that.
I just rejected the theory when I realized that God's Words are true.
The faith in the existence of higher evolved beings is a belief system that rejects God and considers it a fiction.
When I got saved, I asked myself, is the whole Bible true, or am I going to pick and choose what I want to believe like I pick and choose what I want to eat at the China buffet.

I asked and received answers that were not those of the extraterrestrial beings channeling through their human hosts.

I was raised to be a hard core Darwin macroEvolutionist.
I taught my preschool class on a Television show my beliefs about dinosaurs and how they got here. I had the books to prove it.

I am familiar with the religious beliefs of Steven Greer. He makes those known in every interview I've listened to. That took hours, not a few minutes. No doubt about it, he's intelligent and seems very sincere.
However , I wonder why he would lead people away from faith in Christ to faith in the story of beings not made in His image? Why would the foundation of his beliefs contradict the teachings of the Bible?

Believing what Jesus said and Who He is led to me trusting Him alone for His free gift of everlasting life.

Since I decided to receive that gift that He bought, I had to decide whether the entire Bible was true, or fiction. Were the writers of secular text books my final authorities?

These might be good questions to get answered considering you certainly are a truth seeker.

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Dr Greer is not leading people away from the Bible. What he believes has nothing to do with the Bible, per se. Evolution on the other hand does lead people away!

God created us, them, and everything else in between. Who is getting answers from ETs??

 

[TruthDefender]

Just a few other thoughts -

When you say "You just have to read and listen to the accounts" what you're really saying is that we're supposed to read, listen, and trust. That's a problem.

You are trusting that the people claiming to have worked in classified programs are telling the truth about who they are, what they did, and what they saw. People can fabricate stories, people can be deluded, people can mistake what they've seen. There are SO many variables here, so I'm not sure why you've placed your faith in people who at best can say "Trust me, I saw something.". That's not good enough and it's not actual evidence. Even videos and photos cannot be trusted anymore.

Basically, there is no way to prove the existence of flesh and blood aliens unless we observe them for ourselves, and even then we should be testing the spirits and questioning everything.



You can't prove what aliens are or are not, but 'testing the spirits' doesn't negate flesh and blood. Read this again:

1 Jn 4:1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

The passage says to test the spirits, and in this case of a flesh and blood person - such as false prophets - to see if they're from God. Similarly, if a person has an encounter with what they think is an alien, they should be testing that spirit no matter what.

I never said that I was a prophet, or indicated that I’m such. You’re taking that verse out of context. It’s not meant to be used for anything and everything that you don’t believe in! Lol

Also, I never said that these aliens were from God. I said that God created ALL things. There is a difference. You don’t test the spirit unless they’re speaking about spiritual matters; again, there is a difference.

Life has variables, c’est la vie/ hayat bu, “there’s nothing new under the sun” (Solomon’s quote)! Personally, I don’t believe in evolutionary theories, and in some science— it’s a total waste of money and energy.
If you don’t want to believe in something, nobody is forcing you!!

Blessings!

 

[TruthDefender]

Two shorts @TruthDefender
An entity showed high tech to Jack Parsons.

You've probably listened to those who claimed that they were abducted.
What do they usually describe?
Creepy beings that do perverted things to them.
Those who channel them speak in another voice and teach doctrines that blaspheme Jesus Christ.
What would aliens have against Jesus?

Do you have proof that they are demons?
Do you have proof that they (meaning ALL aliens) are blaspheming??

You’re speaking in general terms. I’m pretty sure they’re just like the human race, some good and some bad.

Please be careful and mindful of what you’re accusing them of.

Do you hear yourself? I’ve never heard of people speaking this way. It’s rather mind boggling!

FYI: I’ve never heard of Jack Parsons.

 

[TruthDefender]

Two shorts @TruthDefender
An entity showed high tech to Jack Parsons.

You've probably listened to those who claimed that they were abducted.
What do they usually describe?
Creepy beings that do perverted things to them.
Those who channel them speak in another voice and teach doctrines that blaspheme Jesus Christ.
What would aliens have against Jesus?

As far as I know, channeling and demons are a part of witch craft, of which God hates.

UFOs/ UAPs/ aliens are not demons, witchcraft/ sorcery. They’re just other worldly. When astronauts go into space then they become aliens to others; simple as this.