Yeah arguing satan's point of view is true never works out.
I can see why that would make you tired and want to rest your case
You should REPENT from following false calvinist doctrine.
Ephesians 2 is not preaching faith alone.
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Yeah arguing satan's point of view is true never works out.
I can see why that would make you tired and want to rest your case
You should REPENT from following false calvinist doctrine.
It is simply that Paul's words have been twisted and edited as Peter said would happen 2 Peter 3:15-16.
So then with the mind I serve the law of God but with the flesh the law of sin, oh reched man that I am! Who shall save me from this body of death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord! There is therefore now no condemnation to them who belong to Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit.
Untwisted Romans 7:24 to Romans 8:1.
And they that belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts. Galatians 5:24
He that has my commands and keeps them, he it is that loves me, he that does not love me does not keep my commands. John 14:24
If anyone does not LOVE the Lord Jesus Christ, let that person be Anathema, oh Lord come!
1 Corinthians 16:22. 1 Corinthians 1:13 is the context.
So then with the mind I serve the law of God but with the flesh the law of sin, oh reched man that I am! Who shall save me from this body of death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord! There is therefore now no condemnation to them who belong to Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit.
Untwisted Romans 7:24 to Romans 8:1.
And they that belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts. Galatians 5:24
He that has my commands and keeps them, he it is that loves me, he that does not love me does not keep my commands. John 14:24
If anyone does not LOVE the Lord Jesus Christ, let that person be Anathema, oh Lord come!
1 Corinthians 16:22. 1 Corinthians 1:13 is the context.
Your response collapses the moment you say you are washed, sprinkled, and drink Jesus' natural blood on the cross.
Your continued response collapses when you invent a 2nd blood ideology, rather than making difference between the natural blood of man, and the Spirit's blood of the resurrected man Christ Jesus.
Your natural ideology continues to collapse, when saying the body of natural flesh and blood, is the same resurrected body and blood of the Spirit.
1Co 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Col 1:20
And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
Your crucifixion alone gospel collapses, by changing the God breathed Scripture, and adding redemption to the blood of the cross.
The way of peace between God and sinful man was by shedding Jesus' blood on the cross.
Heb 9:15
And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
His blood of the cross was the only means of being raised again for our redemption. His bodily death was only the means of becoming the mediator of the NT by His resurrection. Redemption of man to have peace with God is only by His resurrection, not by His crucifixion alone.
Luk 24:21
But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done.
No man was redeemed by Jesus' crucifixion alone.
Rom 4:24
But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
Only by His resurrection does Jesus mediate and make peace between God and man. Which is only for them that repent sinning against God, and of shedding His Son's blood on a cross:
Isa 48:22
There is no peace, saith the LORD, unto the wicked.
Psa 7:11
God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.
Acts{3:19}
Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
No impenitent man has any peace nor redemption of God from sins. No man is redeemed and made peace with God by wickedly crucifying His Son on a cross.
Jesus' gospel can only be preached by His resurrection from the dead, not only by means of His shed blood into the earth.
Jhn 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
All natural blood is profitless to the Spirit, but the death of Jesus' natural body was not profitless, by the Spirit raising Him from the dead.
Exactly. Jesus' death was once for all. His natural blood was shed once on earth, and no more.
The false gospel of redemption by Jesus' crucifixion alone, with continued washing of His natural blood, means that Jesus must be crucified again and again and again to redeem and justify a man from sins.
Jesus is not being crucified again, and so He is not shedding His natural blood again.
Your gospel of redemption by shedding Jesus' natural blood, has Jesus crucified for sins daily.
Unless you now say His natural blood is shed today, without His body also being crucified...
Not without sprinkling the shed blood upon the people.
Heb 9:18
Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood, For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people. Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.
No sprinkling, no covenant, no atonement made for the sins of the people.
Shedding blood alone for atonement and redemption is pagan sacrifice.
Paul preached resurrection from the dead:
1 Cor 15:2
For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Jesus' crucifixion alone saves no man from sin:
1Cor 15:16
For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
Pagan gospel is by sacrifice alone, not with resurrection from the dead.
Rom 4:24
But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
Faith-alone justification apart from works, is made even more vain by faith in crucifixion alone.
1Co 15:13
But if there be no resurrection of the dead (body), then is Christ not risen: And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
The gospel of faith-alone reconciliation is also false.
No man is reconciled with God through the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ, without repenting of sinning against God and Jesus Christ:
Act 2:36
Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
No man have faith-alone in Jesus' crucifixion is converted and reconciled with God by remission of sin.
Crucifying Jesus Christ was the ultimate act of sinful man's hatred for God:
Act 2:23
Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:
No man is justified with God by unjustly killing His Son. God does not count any man righteous for His Son' death.
His resurrection proves that every man will be resurrected to be judged by works.
His resurrection does not guarantee any man will be resurrected unto life.
The Unitarian gospel is also false, that by His resurrection every man will be resurrected unto life.
Jesus' resurrection only promises them that repent of sinning for His sake, will be resurrected unto life.
Finally. Something true.
Jesus' coming to be crucified and die for our sins, is all about us sinning against Him.
Having faith-alone justification with sinning against Him, is all about you justifying yourself, not the Lord.
Actually Peter denied Jesus at least 6 times that night, as recorded in the gospels.
In any case, all men forsaking Jesus, is why no one believed Jesus was the Son of God on the cross.
Which of course is why no one is saved by believing His crucifixion alone. Since no one believes He was the Son of God being crucified.
People who say they are saved by faith-alone in Jesus' crucifixion, are boasting that they would not have forsaken Him as all others, and would have believed on Him at the cross unto death.
It's the same hindsight vanity and pride of them, that say they would not have shed the blood of the prophets, especially not of the Son of God.
Mar 6:56
And whithersoever he entered, into villages, or cities, or country, they laid the sick in the streets, and besought him that they might touch if it were but the border of his garment: and as many as touched him were made whole.
5:14
Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.
Jesus Christ does not have broken people and members of His body on earth.
Only an impenitent sinner would preach guaranteed justification and resurrection unto life, while declaring how borken they still are and worthy of death for shedding the blood of the Son of God.
You see, people think they are showing how really humble they are, when only condemning themselves by their own words of condemnation against themselves:
Matth 12:37
For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned…for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.
And they always make sure to speak of everyone as being the same broken and sinful people as themselves, thinking they are thereby justified with numbers...
He makes it abundantly clear that no man is made whole by Him without repenting of sinning against Him.
As well as making it plainly clear that no man can be saved by their faith-alone, nor justified without works.
And yet, people still mess that up and insist on it anyway.
Jesus died for all man's sins, but He doesn't repent for any man's sinning.
Only broken sinners can and must repent for their own sinning for His sake. Else they remain broken sinners without being made wholly righteous by Jesus Christ.
And no amount of a broken sinners' faith-alone will justify them with Jesus Christ the righteous.
Which is purely on the basis of our repentance of sinning against Him.
Your broken sinful Christian life is altogether the same subject of a free gift of faith-alone justification.
My Christian life by Jesus' free gift of His faith to wholly do good, and not sin against Him, is a different subject altogether from your Christian life of broken sinning.
The verses below are the gospel of Jesus Christ from Romans 10.
10 For with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses,
resulting in salvation.
11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes in Him will not be disappointed.”
13 for “Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
So you would disagree with each of these verses because unless you repent, you die?
Your saying that I will be judged because my repentance is minimal?
John 3:18
He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because
he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
How can I be judged if I believe and confess the name of Jesus Christ?
Hebrews 9:11-15
But when Christ appeared as a high priest of the good things to come, He entered through
the greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this creation;
and not through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood, He entered the holy place
once for all, having obtained eternal redemption. For if the blood of goats and bulls and the ashes
of a heifer sprinkling those who have been defiled sanctify for the cleansing of the flesh, how much
more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without blemish to God,
cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? For this reason He is
the mediator of a new covenant, so that, since a death has taken place for the redemption of
the transgressions that were committed under the first covenant, those who have been called
may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
You misunderstood that the crucifixion was the fulfillment of the sacrifice of the lamb once a year.
No blood shed means no redemption and no new covenant.
The new covenant was based on that fulfillment of the law, the death of the lamb of God.
Luke 22:20
And in the same way He took the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup which is poured out for you
is the new covenant in My blood.
1 Corinthians 11:25
In the same way He took the cup also after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood;
do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.”
Hebrews 12:24
And to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood, which speaks better than
the blood of Abel.
You have actually crucified your passions and desires?
Wow, not often I get to meet a bona fide Christian.
Obviously your living in the Holy Spirit continually.
All the fruit, gifts, and ministries of the Holy Spirit, as we were commanded.
1 Corinthians 14:37-38
If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, let him recognize that the things which I write to
you are the Lord’s commandment. But if anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized.
It is not often that I meet someone attaining to the fullness of the Holy Spirit.
Well done.
Which blood was shed on the cross? Jesus' natural blood. Which blood was then offered in the heavenly tabernacle? Jesus' natural blood. For there to have been another kind of blood, Jesus would have to have been sacrificed more than once. You said it yourself below: Jesus was sacrificed ONCE for all.
You have a wacky idea of Jesus' atoning sacrifice... almost like you've been steeped in cultic lore instead of actual Scripture and sound teaching.
That's an idiotic misrepresentation of the truth and verges on heresy.
Jesus' blood shed on the cross is an effectual sacrifice for sin. Your view is pretense built on lies. The blood Jesus shed two thousand years ago pays for the sin of repentant believers today, just as it paid for the sin of repentant believers throughout history.
Our hope is in the resurrection, as exemplified by Jesus' resurrection. The resurrection is part of the gospel, but the atonement is through Jesus' death, not through His resurrection.
That's a better post. No one is saved nor justified by Jesus' death alone, but by His resurrection from the dead for repentance unto life.
Rom 4:25
Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
Acts{11:18}
When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the nations granted repentance unto life.
Not without His resurrection and our repentance unto life.
Faith in Jesus' crucifixion alone is a false hope of resurrection in His likeness, without repentance unto His life.
Acts{3:19}
Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
Beginning of the gospel of redemption and reconciliation by His death, burial, and resurrection.
The death and resurrection is the sole means of any man repenting unto His salvation from sinning.
Mat 1:21
And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Luk 15:10
Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth.
2 Cor 7:10
For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of:
Acts 2:37
Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?...Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
No man doing nothing to repent from sinning against the Lamb of God, is not converted by His resurrection unto life.
Beginning with God granting repentance from dead works for Jesus' sake, to receive His faith unto His salvation from sinning, and and being raised from the dead in His likeness:
Acts{11:18}
When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the nations granted repentance unto life.
Heb {6:1}
Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
Collosians{3:23}
And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men; Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ. But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.
2Pe 1:3
Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
Them that repent not from sinning against God for Jesus' sake, receive nothing of the promises of the gospel of His death, burial, and resurrection.
Including them that only repent from some sinning for religious' sake:
Jerem 3:10
And yet for all this her treacherous sister Judah hath not turned unto me with her whole heart, but feignedly, saith the LORD.
Hosea{7:8}
Ephraim, he hath mixed himself among the people; Ephraim is a cake not turned.
Rev 3:15
I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
Anyone who skips repentance to have faith-alone in Christ, has only their faith-alone that does nothing to be saved and justified by their faith-alone.
Only those who do as commanded and repent from sinning against God, will He send Jesus Christ with His righteous faith to do good and not evil.
True. But the covenant and atonement by that same law, was only established and made by also sprinkling the shed blood upon the people.
Shedding alone makes no covenant, nor atones for any sins by the law of God in Jesus Christ.
Heb 9:21
Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry. And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
There is no remission of sin without the shedding of blood, because there is no sprinkling of blood for remission, without the shedding of blood.
1Pe 1:2
Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
Without the death of the Lamb, there is no justification from sin, because there is no resurrection for justification, without the death of the Lamb.
Rom 4:25
Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
Heb 9:12
And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
The shedding of blood is the necessary means to the end of sprinkling the blood for covenant atonement. The sacrifice and death of Jesus' body was the necessary means to the end of resurrection and sprinkling of the blood of the Spirit.
By law of God, there is no remission and atonement for shedding of blood alone. No man is saved nor justified by crucifying Jesus Christ alone.
Jesus needed to die bodily for sin as means of resurrection, for justifying whosoever repents of sinning against Him, with sprinkling of His blood of the Spirit for covenant remission and atonement from past sins and trespasses.
Which blood is not of the flesh, but of the Spirit, else there be crucifixion of Jesus daily for remission of sins.
Jhn 3:6
That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Jhn 6:54
Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
Jhn 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
No man is forgiven and justified by sprinkling nor drinking of Jesus' natural blood at the cross.
Lev 17:14
For it is the life of all flesh; the blood of it is for the life thereof: therefore I said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall eat the blood of no manner of flesh: for the life of all flesh is the blood thereof: whosoever eateth it shall be cut off.
Act 15:29
That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
The Scripture foreseeing the sprinkling and drinking of the risen Lamb of God's spiritual blood of the resurrection, the command is not against any blood, but only of the natural blood of any flesh on earth.
Only the carnal minded disciples of Jesus Christ turn back from His command to drink His blood, because they are blind to the eternal things of the Spirit and life.
Jhn 6:66
From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.
No, because every verse of Scripture is true, but not every verse has written the whole gospel, doctrine, and prophecy of Scripture.
Every verse of Scripture must be studied, believed, and taught in context of all Scripture from Genesis - Revelation. If any true verse of Scripture is left out of the true gospel and Jesus Christ, then it's a cursed gospel diminishing Scripture of God.
Deu 4:2
Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.
Those who diminish repentance from dead works for Jesus' sake, also diminish keeping His commandments, as being hearers of His words only, and not doers.
So you would disagree with each of these verses, because they don't include grace? Neither ought they be disagreed with, because they don't include repentance.
They should be believed as true with repentance and grace. Nor can they be done without repentance and grace.
Ezek 18:31
Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
Luke{13:2}
And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things? I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
So, do you disagree with theses verses, because they don't include 'doing nothing' to be justified by faith-alone? Or, do you agree with the Scriptures that unless we also repent, we will perish like any unrepentant sinner on earth?
Mat 4:17
From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
The gospel of Jesus Christ begins with repentance from sinning against Him.
Mark{1:15}
The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
Acts 3:19
Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
2 Cor 7:10
For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of:
No one can believe the gospel, be converted to, nor saved by Jesus Christ, without first repenting of sinning against Him.
Heb 6:1
Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
The first principle of the gospel of Jesus Christ is repenting from dead works, to have faith toward God. No one can have the faith of God to go on to perfection and resurrection unto life, without first repenting.
Any gospel diminishing or disannulling repentance from all sins and trespasses, as being unnecessary to believe, be converted, saved, and resurrected from the dead in Jesus' likeness, is another gospel of unrepentant sinful man's own making-alone.