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[Suze]

I think unlike God the Father, Jesus the Son experienced what it is like to be human and in the flesh, so he knew what it was like to be vulnerable, naked and ashamed and exposed.

God the Father, the almighty never really did. God is spirit, He never gets hurt physically, although I do recall He actually regretted that He made us humans when we misbehaved.

Jesus was as human as we r so , think on this , he had a life before his ministry . That life would have mostly been ordinary , Joseph probably died , Jesus as the eldest would have had to assume a fatherly role over his siblings , finding husband's / wives for them , supporting them financially , keeping them out of trouble etc etc . All that would have been emotionally hard work and not necessarily without troubles . He experienced the things that most of us do , whilst also living under the tyrannical rule of the Romans , that would have exposed him to some horrible things that he would have had to put up with , Ronan brutality is legendary .
Maybe he fell in love and would have liked to have married but , he would have know that wasn't his path , that can't have been easy . Some people like to down play Jesus's humanity but to me it's massively important . He was tried and tested in every way that we r and yet.....he resisted everything that was not meant for him , knowing that God wanted him for a different purpose . This must have required enormous strength and faith on his part , more than any of us can imagine as we have all sinned and he never ever did ! He always only ever did what God wanted him to do , no matter how hard that was for him , he did it . This was not an emotionless life he lived for sure . How can he understand us unless.....he walked in the flesh in this world and with all the stresses and strains that come with life . He was made perfect through suffering . Why should we not walk the same path ?

 

[Lanolin]

Jesus was as human as we r so , think on this , he had a life before his ministry . That life would have mostly been ordinary , Joseph probably died , Jesus as the eldest would have had to assume a fatherly role over his siblings , finding husband's / wives for them , supporting them financially , keeping them out of trouble etc etc . All that would have been emotionally hard work and not necessarily without troubles . He experienced the things that most of us do , whilst also living under the tyrannical rule of the Romans , that would have exposed him to some horrible things that he would have had to put up with , Ronan brutality is legendary .
Maybe he fell in love and would have liked to have married but , he would have know that wasn't his path , that can't have been easy . Some people like to down play Jesus's humanity but to me it's massively important . He was tried and tested in every way that we r and yet.....he resisted everything that was not meant for him , knowing that God wanted him for a different purpose . This must have required enormous strength and faith on his part , more than any of us can imagine as we have all sinned and he never ever did ! He always only ever did what God wanted him to do , no matter how hard that was for him , he did it . This was not an emotionless life he lived for sure . How can he understand us unless.....he walked in the flesh in this world and with all the stresses and strains that come with life . He was made perfect through suffering . Why should we not walk the same path ?

I always thought his relationship with Mary (not his mother, the other Mary) was special and kind of sad that love was not fulfilled in that they didn't marry. But maybe it was meant to show us what true friendship and love was really like.

 

[Lanolin]

Apparently I detest correction.

hmm do I? As someone who has proofread for a living (by people who want it, and pay for it!) I'm kind of like...what do you know?!
Typos I can excuse. You can use autocorrect for that. It's when someone repeats or doesn't make sense or has run on sentences with too many clauses that are the biggest work.

If you don't reference the Bible and for scripture or worse, skip verses in a passage that are very concerning. People seem to do this all the time when they are arguing something that they want the Bible to back them up in their favour. And then get VERY angry when I point this out or the context of what they are quoting. Then they accuse ME of being wrong because I didn't interpret the scripture the way they have.

Huh.
Well...I stand corrected.

 

[Lanolin]

I don't have the energy for being the Bible police and correcting everyone's mistakes though. Maybe some people have if they don't have a life. I figure people are smart enough to realise when they have got something wrong, and humble enough to maybe read the passage through again. In an actual book Bible not snippets from online.

 

[Lanolin]

I watched this movie called Hope Springs last night.
The couple were having problems with their stale marriage of 31 years and the wife (played by Meryl Streep) decided to book a vacation to go to a marriage counsellor in an attempt to revive their marriage. The husband (played by Tommy Lee Jones) at first denied they had a problem, or that he had a problem being intimate with his wife.

I won't spoil it (it's an older movie, came out in 2012?) but if you want to know what happens maybe check it out.
If I had a husband and he no longer wanted me I wonder if I would have bolted. Meryl's character cried a lot in the movie, and I totally felt her pain. She was very passive and it took guts to go and get help and believe that things could change.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

I watched this movie called Hope Springs last night.
The couple were having problems with their stale marriage of 31 years and the wife (played by Meryl Streep) decided to book a vacation to go to a marriage counsellor in an attempt to revive their marriage. The husband (played by Tommy Lee Jones) at first denied they had a problem, or that he had a problem being intimate with his wife.

I won't spoil it (it's an older movie, came out in 2012?) but if you want to know what happens maybe check it out.
If I had a husband and he no longer wanted me I wonder if I would have bolted. Meryl's character cried a lot in the movie, and I totally felt her pain. She was very passive and it took guts to go and get help and believe that things could change.

My parents' marriage is a good example to me. It wasn't perfect but they really were each other's best friend. So their marriage survived everything! Including infidelity on both sides! I think because God is so involved in my family - my Mom and I always pray and spend time with God everyday and they grew up in the Philippines where there is no divorce. So you really had to be careful who you picked to marry and take your vows in marriage to heart. At least my parents did. Others just left each other because of no divorce in that country.

I guess that's why I'm not really trying very hard to get married here in the States. There's divorce here and people don't seem to want to stick to each other and their vows anymore. I like my freedom and not have to worry about any of that.


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[Texasgal]

You are definitely meant to turn to Jesus. If people mock you, then they are the fools. The gospel is not about going to heaven when you die. it is about being delivered from all the hurt and bondages of the past. It is about being set free from the prison of self imposed, self protection mechanisms. The gospel is for the "poor", not so much materially, but for those who are weak and beaten down by life. The strong and self confident brush the gospel away.

You'd be surprised about men. Outwardly, they may seem strong. But PTSD is commonplace among men. Men generally do not cope well with divorce. I know that from experience.

I once went to a "support" group called "Parents without rights". I went once but I could not handle the bitterness and resentment; the sorrow and grief. Women are more inclined to be emotional and are better able to cope. Men are not as emotional, so when emotion rises, they do not handle it well.

It's deep irony that men are supposed not to suppress their feelings. Next thing you know, there is a court order to go to an anger management course.

Women are more inclined to talk things through with other women. Men tend to internalise everything and pretend all is OK.

Bitterness is the result of unforgiveness. Unforgiveness is a serious hindrance to our walk with Jesus. Let me know; I can provide you a link to an article that can help with the deepest wounds.

Being a naval commander I can relate to this. I have had so many men in the service coming to me to spill. They’re not really that different from women, apart from their tough guy act. They are not able to share anything with their male superiors, but to me they really say out loud what they are feeling.

 

[tourist]

Will look out for it. Care to share a link?

I was thinking how people seem to mock me a lot. It's kind of funny - for them. Not for me.

I would share a link but unfortunately, I am challenged with a lot of computer stuff. In the search bar type in Rudolph animated movie, 1964 edition, and it will show several viewing options including the entire movie.

 

[Gideon300]

Being a naval commander I can relate to this. I have had so many men in the service coming to me to spill. They’re not really that different from women, apart from their tough guy act. They are not able to share anything with their male superiors, but to me they really say out loud what they are feeling.

One big difference between men and women is how we think. Generally, men are task oriented, which sometimes bugs my wife. She is thinking 5 things at once and has to share all 5 with me while I'm trying to work on my computer, for example. She's getting better at waiting. I hope I'm getting better at listening.

 

[Godsgirl1983]

Where do broken hearts go anyway?

I think we are meant to go to Jesus

Exactly.
People are going to hurt us, or let us down.
At times, even the people we look up to or are closest to are very likely to let us down (even if it is unintentional)


Psalm 34:18
The LORD is close to the brokenhearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit.

 

[Godsgirl1983]

One big difference between men and women is how we think. Generally, men are task oriented, which sometimes bugs my wife. She is thinking 5 things at once and has to share all 5 with me while I'm trying to work on my computer, for example. She's getting better at waiting. I hope I'm getting better at listening.

hmm this sounds familiar.
sometimes, my husband comes to me focused on one thought he wants to talk on and on about and I can't follow him because I'm already juggling 5 different thoughts around my head.

 

[Gideon300]

hmm this sounds familiar.
sometimes, my husband comes to me focused on one thought he wants to talk on and on about and I can't follow him because I'm already juggling 5 different thoughts around my head.

I watched a seminar by Mark Gungor. He talks about two different brains. It's hilarious as well as enlightening.

 

[Lanolin]

hmm I think it's just women are usually lumped with all childcare so if you have more than one child, then that's multitasking already.
I don't think it's due to difference is brains, it's more the environment. Brains can grow to be different, there's not anything inherently task focused for men or multiple focused for women, I believe it's a generalisation.

 

[Lanolin]

The main difference between men and women are the y and x chromosomes. Women were always told they were the weaker sex, though, and it even says that in the Bible.

So when we women do 'hard' things or things men usually do, the men are surprised, and maybe a little threatened lol.

 

[Godsgirl1983]

I watched a seminar by Mark Gungor. He talks about two different brains. It's hilarious as well as enlightening.

AH, I think I know the one your talking about
Actually, as funny as it was, it was also very insightful.
Sometimes when these 1:5 conversations are happening (and I realize it) I picture some of his analogies, and it helps me get better focused down to hubs 1 topic (and maybe just 1 or 2 of mine).

 

[Lanolin]

My parents' marriage is a good example to me. It wasn't perfect but they really were each other's best friend. So their marriage survived everything! Including infidelity on both sides! I think because God is so involved in my family - my Mom and I always pray and spend time with God everyday and they grew up in the Philippines where there is no divorce. So you really had to be careful who you picked to marry and take your vows in marriage to heart. At least my parents did. Others just left each other because of no divorce in that country.

I guess that's why I'm not really trying very hard to get married here in the States. There's divorce here and people don't seem to want to stick to each other and their vows anymore. I like my freedom and not have to worry about any of that.


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Why is there no divorce in the Phillipines? Is it because it's Catholic? I forget that Phillipines is in Asia sometimes.
I think a lot of couples separate rather than divorce, because divorce is so much paperwork. Also so they can marry someone else I suppose.
I think to expect couples to always be faithful to each other exclusively is perhaps too big an ask? My parents were never separated but after mum had us children I don't think she had much (romantic) feeling for my dad after that. I never saw them show affection to each other. They probably did before I came along lol.

However my mum took her vows seriously so even if she was unhappy it did not matter - she was married and that was that. My dad was kind of oblivious to my mum's feelings, and he only lost his temper on rare occasions, but it was frightening when he did.

I don't think God was involved in their relationship, because they are not christians, and didn't believe. They were married in a church though, it was what everyone did in those days. I know He looked after me though, and when came to faith because I asked Him to, He did miracles I suppose you can call it, because I never really wanted for anything, (always had the basics, food, roof over my head, clothing) I mean, some marriages completely fall apart but their's was held together and they were married for 50 years.

 

[Marie-G]

The hierarchical structure in some societies create imbalance in relationships. One partner takes the dominant position and the other becomes the submissive one. Actually, both are victims of this power imbalance. This would lead to emotional isolation with time if Jesus Christ wasn't at the core of each marital relationship. Only then both would strive for equivalency, understanding, empathy and respect.

 

[Kainos]

Where do broken hearts go anyway?

Same place as those grazed knees after a fall, when we were children.

 

[Lanolin]

Same place as those grazed knees after a fall, when we were children.

The sick bay at school?