Adventists, Ellen G. White, failed prophecies and scripture
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Thank you! I will check it out!
I love your attitude. Its refreshing.
Thanks. If you knew how bad my year 2025 was, you would know, it's only God that is keeping me in the right mind set. Definitely crazy times.
I appreciate chatting with SDA, they have a heart for God, I wish more people could sense that.
I appreciate that. I love my SDA family and God knows what's really going on that's what matters. I hope 2026 treats you better.
God bless sis
God is not an idiot. He did not create humans as vegetarians and then allow (and even encourage) them to eat meat.
Wrong. If I were claiming that SDA's are wrong because their beliefs are like those of Catholics, then I would have been employing that particular fallacy. I wasn't claiming that.
I was stating that SDA's are similarly wrong. They make the same kind of error.
You err by assumption.
Nothing in Scripture says that the world was ever "perfect".
Nothing in Scripture says that humans were "created" as "vegetarians". Do you honestly think God had no idea what would happen? Do you think that human physiology is best suited to the consumption of plants?
Riddle me this, Parrot-Man, why are humans unable to metabolize vitamin B12 from ANY plant source? Why are humans unable to digest insoluble fibre? Why is it that humans can function perfectly well on ONLY meat and fat?
Every logical reasonable informed person knows that humans are NOT naturally vegetarians.
Statement 1
That is no different from Catholics dogma requiring that Catholics accept the official teaching of the Catholic Church as authoritative.
Statement 2
It's also misguide, and equally dangerous.
Statement 3
This is not a logical fallacy, because "If I were claiming that SDA's are wrong because their beliefs are like those of Catholics, then I would have been employing that particular fallacy. I wasn't claiming that."
Statement 4
I was stating that SDA's are similarly wrong. They make the same kind of error.
You used the word dogma in statement 1, which are set of principles. Please show how other churches are not the same. Don't all churches are have a set of principles, that must be accepted to join a church?
Once again, you specifically mentioned the Catholic Church which has a host of serious errors, which by the way the SDA church is probably the most vocal about. Once again, your using guilt by association. Why didn't you use Baptist, Methodist, Evangelical, or any other church that has a set of principles, that must be accepted to join a church.
Once again...Please prove your point in detail and show how other churches, that are not mention above differ. If you can't distinguish how other churches, that have a set of principles that must be accepted to join a church, than you are using the Catholic church as guilt by association.
No? Then explain how it happened? You are basically saying, what is written in the Bible, isn't what happend.
I appreciate that. I love my SDA family and God knows what's really going on that's what matters. I hope 2026 treats you better.
God bless brother
Yes, SDA has a family atmosphere for sure. Definitely can sense that.
Thanks for the well wishes.
You pretty much just described my diet for the last couple years
. Protein and fat for the win. Zero fiber. I’d be curious to know the amount of supplements they ingest. If only we had a functional secum and a couple extra stomachs.
I'm not gonna pick this post a part to much, but everyone knows that babies eat chicken wings and steak the first 6 months after birth. Because I'm a logical reasonable informed person!
I will let TMS respond to the rest, since it was directed towards him. Before you get ahead of yourself...
"Yes, vegetarians can drink milk, as it does not involve consuming animal flesh and is widely accepted in most vegetarian diets."
Its funny though how they always point to Genesis 1:29 saying we were designed to be vegetarian but Genesis never mentioned eggs or any milk products. If they want to claim that then go all in vegan. They don’t want to eat the cow but they do want to tie it up and steal it’s milk.I'm not gonna pick this post a part to much, but everyone knows that babies eat chicken wings and steak the first 6 months after birth. Because I'm a logical reasonable informed person!
Before you get ahead of yourself...
"Yes, vegetarians can drink milk, as it does not involve consuming animal flesh and is widely accepted in most vegetarian diets."
Did you have time to look up on a website, How to Answer SDA Sceptics on veganism?I'm sorry, you guys are making this to easy.
What's the difference between created as vegetarians, verses later allowed to eat meat? Jeopardy timer... Of course Jesus eat fish, it was mostly likely 100% Kosher, had fins and scales. I'm gonna guess it wasn't shrimp, crab, or lobster. Just a wild guess on my part.
So, basically the rational is, that since the flood sort of wiped all the fruits and vegetables, God allowed meat, since Noah and his family would of starved, if not for this allowance.
Genesis 9
1And God blessed Noah and his sons and said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth. 2The fear and dread of you will fall on every living creature on the earth, every bird of the air, every creature that crawls on the ground, and all the fish of the sea. They are delivered into your hand. 3Everything that lives and moves will be food for you; just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you all things.
Are you planning on being a really good 7th Day Adventist, the only true church, and obeying the inspired scriptures of Ellen Gould White regarding dietary laws and veganism?
Only looking at the flood, they stored enough vegetation for the animals AND themselves for the time they would need it.
Noah makes the survivalists teachers and Mormons look like kindergardeners.
They also had plenty of meat fresh on hoof. Remember how many animals? 7 of each clean kind. That's a lot of meat. They only needed to preserve 2 alive for reproduction.
And of course 9 of the 10 Commandments are found in the New Testament under the Law of Christ because these are part of the Lord's moral law. Saturday sabbath is not in the New Testament because we are to abide in Christ resting in Him at all times instead of just one day a week.
So it's OK to lie, steal, take God's Name in vain, commit adultery, etc etc as long as we do it in love then right?
Yes mam!
AI teaches false doctrine because AI is a false teacher and a false prophet because AI don't got the Holy Ghost
How do you know it wasn't Tofurky
Typical amateur trolling. You haven’t gotten any better. Go work on your skills.AI teaches false doctrine because AI is a false teacher and a false prophet because AI don't got the Holy Ghost
For several decades now, research has consistently found that a vegetarian diet, that is mainly made up of fruits and vegetables, nuts, legumes and wholegrains, can reduce your risk of major diseases and help you live longer.
A team of researchers at Loma Linda University in the United States has shown vegetarian men live for an average of 10 years longer than non-vegetarian men — 83 years compared to 73 years. For women, being vegetarian added an extra 6 years to their lives, helping them reach 85 years on average.
The China Study (2005): Argued that a whole-food, plant-based diet reduces or reverses chronic diseases like heart disease and cancer, leading to longer life.
A global study by experts at the University of Sydney has shown that countries which consume more plant-based proteins – such as chickpeas, tofu and peas – have longer adult life expectancies.
My grandpa loved meat and had lots of meat for dinner every night.
He died of bowel cancer at 55 years of age.
AI states.... "High consumption of red and processed meats is strongly linked to an increased risk of colon (colorectal) cancer. "
As for b12 I'm not a scientist but the bacteria required to change the B12 into a usable form is not in our guts. 6 thousand years of sin has caused great changes in us. We did live for 900 years after sin first entered and were much taller.
As a vegetarian I have no issue with fibre or b12. Educate yourself and you can manage fine.
But like the Israelites that came out of Egypt the flesh is very appealing to our lower natures so most people refuse to let it go and justify eating it.
Num 11:1-4
1 And when the people complained, it displeased the LORD: ..... 4 And the mixt multitude that was among them fell a lusting: and the children of Israel also wept again, and said, Who shall give us flesh to eat?
They only had a vegetarian diet and complained...
Num 11:6 KJV But now our soul is dried away: there is nothing at all, beside this manna, before our eyes.
Moses said ... Num 11:13 Whence should I have flesh to give unto all this people? for they weep unto me, saying, Give us flesh, that we may eat.
Num 11:18-20
18 And say thou unto the people, Sanctify yourselves against to morrow, and ye shall eat flesh: for ye have wept in the ears of the LORD, saying, Who shall give us flesh to eat? for it was well with us in Egypt: therefore the LORD will give you flesh, and ye shall eat. 19 Ye shall not eat one day, nor two days, nor five days, neither ten days, nor twenty days; 20 But even a whole month, until it come out at your nostrils, and it be loathsome unto you: because that ye have despised the LORD which is among you, and have wept before him, saying, Why came we forth out of Egypt?
Num 11:32-34
32 And the people stood up all that day, and all that night, and all the next day, and they gathered the quails: he that gathered least gathered ten homers: and they spread them all abroad for themselves round about the camp. 33 And while the flesh was yet between their teeth, ere it was chewed, the wrath of the LORD was kindled against the people, and the LORD smote the people with a very great plague. 34 And he called the name of that place Kibrothhattaavah: because there they buried the people that lusted.
God gave them meat but He was mad at their lustful condition.
Those trusting in AI are being primed for deception.
Prepare to be blinded troll!
Warnings about AI is for the people reading that actually want to walk with the Lord in Spirit and Truth.
Gen 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Very good.
Does God make anything imperfect?
Does God make anything bad?
Was God's creation faulty in any way?
No
It was perfect before sin.
Great points. It's crazy that some people think God makes mistakes sometimes.
They think when the Bible talks about Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 where it talks about God's creation was without form and void that He had made it without form and void and then had to fix it.
No, it was perfect, then after satan and his nutjob demons were cast out of Heaven, then God's creation became without form and void. Old lucifer (before he committed high treason and tried to over throw God) was the very highest angel and had been given authority by God over all that God had created so when he fell it caused God's creation to become without form and void.
That's the only logical explanation unless one wants to claim God messed up on His first try at creating creation and had to take another swing which is the claim that God is not perfect and makes mistakes sometimes