Some Thoughts on John 8:1-11 (The Adulteress Woman)

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Disclaimer: There parts of this article may be controversial. The author considered alternative words to soften the tone, but found them to be ambiguous and misleading. The reader is encouraged to do their own research and draw their own conclusions.

In the entire New Testament, there may not be a more significant or beautiful story than John 8:1-11. It is beautifully written, reveals a precious glimpse of the nature of our Redeemer, and provides an solid basis for following Him by example. Yet this is also considered one of the most enigmatic sections of the Bible.

This is the story of Jesus and the Adulterous Woman. On its surface, it appears to be a pretty straight-forward. Yet it has proven troublesome for two thousand years. Before there was a New testament, there was argument and controversy.

The problems arose at the very beginning, within a few years of John’s death. While early Christian writers attributed the work to John and affirmed its original content, others omitted this section entirely from their Bible translations. Historically these passages have alternatively been included and excluded in different translations. A few translations put these passages in other Bible locations. Several versions, including the venerated KJV, place the passages in brackets indicating they do not appear in early Bible versions.

It is interesting to note that most scholars, modern and ancient, do not challenge the passage’s historical or factual nature. Even more, it is near universally agreed that the words are consistent with the character and teachings of Yeshua. What then sparks all the controversy?

Early Christian writers including Ambrose and Augustine made the claim that these passages promoted sexual sin. Their claim is based on Jesus’ failure to punish the adulterer since He “Forgave her.” This argument borders on ludicrous. He did not forgive her but refused to condemn her, two entirely different acts. But more, God’s love and patience with sinners is fundamental to Christian belief. The idea of instant punishment for sins violates the basic tenants of Christian faith.

There must be a solution to this dilemma. To find it we need to take a deep dive into the Holy Scriptures. Along the way we will also discover the answer to one of the most mysterious questions in Bible history; just what Did Jesus write with his finger in the Temple dust?

Reading John 8:1-11 in context, we first note that the confrontation with the religious leaders is a continuation of events from the previous day. His critics attempted to arrest Yeshua on the last day of the feast of Tabernacles (Sukkot). Jesus was once again confronted by a group of Pharisee’s and Scribes. The Pharisees and Scribes were followers of Halakah, human made rules and traditions. The same man-made synagogue doctrines Jesus had continuously opposed throughout His minister.

Jesus’ opinion of these officials was clearly expressed in Verse 10. He asks the woman, “Where are your accusers?” For a first century Jew, “Accuser” was the word for satan; they would have heard it exactly that way.

There is agreement this was a blatant attempt to trick Jesus into error by violating Halakhah or Roman law so He could be charged. The case against the woman also broke many well-known Mosaic Laws (Torah). In their zeal to persecute Christ, these experts were unwittingly exposing themselves to God’s personal and irrevocable rejection. Christs simple statement about casting a stone against her exposed their own sin. They fully understood and walked away.

To fully understand this incident, we must look elsewhere. The keys to the story; and the solution our original dilemma, can be found in Numbers 5:11-31. In these passages God instructs His people what to do in exactly this situation. He provides a guide to follow when someone is accused of adultery while the truth remains unknown.

In Numbers 5:11-31 a husband believes his wife is an adulterer but has no proof. The wife is taken before the priest. God then provides a test for the truth. The woman is required to swear an oath before God. She agrees that if she is guilty, She will suffer a severe curse. This includes being barren and a slow, agonizing, and humiliating death. The priest writes the curse in ink on a piece of leather and rinses the ink from the leather into a bowl using living water. Dust is collected from the floor of the temple and mixed into the cup. The cup now contains “the bitter water that causes a curse.” The woman is required to drink, understanding she will experience the “curse” if guilty. If innocent, the bitter water will have no effect on her. She will be fully restored.

Now back to the temple in Jerusalem.

The woman has been brought to the Temple for judgement as required in Torah. She is presented to Jesus, the Living Water that gives life. Just the day before, Jesus had encouraged listeners to come and drink from him and receive living water. Yeshua’s connection to living water would be clearly understood.

Jesus than does something unexpected. He bends down and writes something in the dust of the Temple floor. We understand that the Temple dust is an essential part of the adultery test in Numbers 5, but what are the written words of Christ and why did he write them?

At this point in John 8:6, all the necessary elements to test the adulteress have been assembled. There is dust from the Temple floor, living water, and now the required words of the curse written by Jesus.

In Yeshua’s earlier words from the Mount:

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

We have a reasonable and biblically sound explanation of what Jesus wrote. We need to look to history to understand why John 8:1-11 was so controversial.

We noted earlier, Augustine and his teacher Ambrose were both vocal critics of John 8:1-11. They were also significant players in the development and canonization of the New Testament. They were also openly antisemitic. They defined Jews as a special subset of those damned to hell while also sanctifying collective punishment for the murder of Yeshua. They even suggested the enslavement of Jews to Christians for the crime of deicide.

Now perhaps a real motive comes clear for their opposition. John 8:1-11 plainly demonstrate Christs commitment to Torah and highlights his refusal to alter a jot or a tittle of God’s word.

Finally, let us look at how these passages are typically understood in the western church.

Perhaps the most common interpretation is that Jesus is demonstrating His grace to the adulteress; yet this ignores her lack of expressed remorse and repentance. She also makes no statements of faith in the Nazarene. This interpretation also ignores the fact that Christ did not grant her forgiveness. He instead refused to condemn her, leaving her with hope for future redemption, but gave her no grace.

Another conclusion drawn from these passages is a prohibition of sinners casting stones at others. This is a legitimate conclusion that can to drawn from these passages, but would it be cause for their exclusion from the Bible.

Perhaps we now have a historical perspective why John 8:1-11 has remained so controversial. We may also have a biblically sound interpretation of Christ’s letters in the Temple dust. Yet it will always remain an uncertainty and an issue of faith.
 
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Jesus than does something unexpected. He bends down and writes something in the dust of the Temple floor. We understand that the Temple dust is an essential part of the adultery test in Numbers 5, but what are the written words of Christ and why did he write them?

At this point in John 8:6, all the necessary elements to test the adulteress have been assembled. There is dust from the Temple floor, living water, and now the required words of the curse written by Jesus.
That is a good explanation.

Jer 17:13 O LORD, the hope of Israel, all that forsake thee shall be ashamed, and they that depart from me shall be written in the earth, because they have forsaken the LORD, the fountain of living waters.

I wonder if Jesus was writing their names down.

Since Jesus did not go by the law to test her then why would He copy the test in that way.

Especially when He said I forgive you which would be sufficient to free her.

There was no test needed literally or symbolic if Jesus said I forgive you.

And it would not be needed to do the test when Jesus knew whether she was guilty or not.

And what is the purpose of the test if there is no proof of the results.

It done in that manner is no test.
 
I can find no Bible version that indictes Jesus forgave the adulterous woman. All the elements of Numbers 5 were presented to the woman. She left after recieving the "Living Water" from Christ when he refused to condemn her. Whenshe left the results are assured, just lke the Numbers passages. She would either accept Christ's redemption or fail in her sin. Neither Numbers 5 nor John 8 tell us the results of the test.

Thnk you for your comments. I see no conflict with Jeramiah.
 
Disclaimer: There parts of this article may be controversial. The author considered alternative words to soften the tone, but found them to be ambiguous and misleading. The reader is encouraged to do their own research and draw their own conclusions.

In the entire New Testament, there may not be a more significant or beautiful story than John 8:1-11. It is beautifully written, reveals a precious glimpse of the nature of our Redeemer, and provides an solid basis for following Him by example. Yet this is also considered one of the most enigmatic sections of the Bible.

This is the story of Jesus and the Adulterous Woman. On its surface, it appears to be a pretty straight-forward. Yet it has proven troublesome for two thousand years. Before there was a New testament, there was argument and controversy.

The problems arose at the very beginning, within a few years of John’s death. While early Christian writers attributed the work to John and affirmed its original content, others omitted this section entirely from their Bible translations. Historically these passages have alternatively been included and excluded in different translations. A few translations put these passages in other Bible locations. Several versions, including the venerated KJV, place the passages in brackets indicating they do not appear in early Bible versions.

It is interesting to note that most scholars, modern and ancient, do not challenge the passage’s historical or factual nature. Even more, it is near universally agreed that the words are consistent with the character and teachings of Yeshua. What then sparks all the controversy?

Early Christian writers including Ambrose and Augustine made the claim that these passages promoted sexual sin. Their claim is based on Jesus’ failure to punish the adulterer since He “Forgave her.” This argument borders on ludicrous. He did not forgive her but refused to condemn her, two entirely different acts. But more, God’s love and patience with sinners is fundamental to Christian belief. The idea of instant punishment for sins violates the basic tenants of Christian faith.

There must be a solution to this dilemma. To find it we need to take a deep dive into the Holy Scriptures. Along the way we will also discover the answer to one of the most mysterious questions in Bible history; just what Did Jesus write with his finger in the Temple dust?

Reading John 8:1-11 in context, we first note that the confrontation with the religious leaders is a continuation of events from the previous day. His critics attempted to arrest Yeshua on the last day of the feast of Tabernacles (Sukkot). Jesus was once again confronted by a group of Pharisee’s and Scribes. The Pharisees and Scribes were followers of Halakah, human made rules and traditions. The same man-made synagogue doctrines Jesus had continuously opposed throughout His minister.

Jesus’ opinion of these officials was clearly expressed in Verse 10. He asks the woman, “Where are your accusers?” For a first century Jew, “Accuser” was the word for satan; they would have heard it exactly that way.

There is agreement this was a blatant attempt to trick Jesus into error by violating Halakhah or Roman law so He could be charged. The case against the woman also broke many well-known Mosaic Laws (Torah). In their zeal to persecute Christ, these experts were unwittingly exposing themselves to God’s personal and irrevocable rejection. Christs simple statement about casting a stone against her exposed their own sin. They fully understood and walked away.

To fully understand this incident, we must look elsewhere. The keys to the story; and the solution our original dilemma, can be found in Numbers 5:11-31. In these passages God instructs His people what to do in exactly this situation. He provides a guide to follow when someone is accused of adultery while the truth remains unknown.

In Numbers 5:11-31 a husband believes his wife is an adulterer but has no proof. The wife is taken before the priest. God then provides a test for the truth. The woman is required to swear an oath before God. She agrees that if she is guilty, She will suffer a severe curse. This includes being barren and a slow, agonizing, and humiliating death. The priest writes the curse in ink on a piece of leather and rinses the ink from the leather into a bowl using living water. Dust is collected from the floor of the temple and mixed into the cup. The cup now contains “the bitter water that causes a curse.” The woman is required to drink, understanding she will experience the “curse” if guilty. If innocent, the bitter water will have no effect on her. She will be fully restored.

Now back to the temple in Jerusalem.

The woman has been brought to the Temple for judgement as required in Torah. She is presented to Jesus, the Living Water that gives life. Just the day before, Jesus had encouraged listeners to come and drink from him and receive living water. Yeshua’s connection to living water would be clearly understood.

Jesus than does something unexpected. He bends down and writes something in the dust of the Temple floor. We understand that the Temple dust is an essential part of the adultery test in Numbers 5, but what are the written words of Christ and why did he write them?

At this point in John 8:6, all the necessary elements to test the adulteress have been assembled. There is dust from the Temple floor, living water, and now the required words of the curse written by Jesus.

In Yeshua’s earlier words from the Mount:

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

We have a reasonable and biblically sound explanation of what Jesus wrote. We need to look to history to understand why John 8:1-11 was so controversial.

We noted earlier, Augustine and his teacher Ambrose were both vocal critics of John 8:1-11. They were also significant players in the development and canonization of the New Testament. They were also openly antisemitic. They defined Jews as a special subset of those damned to hell while also sanctifying collective punishment for the murder of Yeshua. They even suggested the enslavement of Jews to Christians for the crime of deicide.

Now perhaps a real motive comes clear for their opposition. John 8:1-11 plainly demonstrate Christs commitment to Torah and highlights his refusal to alter a jot or a tittle of God’s word.

Finally, let us look at how these passages are typically understood in the western church.

Perhaps the most common interpretation is that Jesus is demonstrating His grace to the adulteress; yet this ignores her lack of expressed remorse and repentance. She also makes no statements of faith in the Nazarene. This interpretation also ignores the fact that Christ did not grant her forgiveness. He instead refused to condemn her, leaving her with hope for future redemption, but gave her no grace.

Another conclusion drawn from these passages is a prohibition of sinners casting stones at others. This is a legitimate conclusion that can to drawn from these passages, but would it be cause for their exclusion from the Bible.

Perhaps we now have a historical perspective why John 8:1-11 has remained so controversial. We may also have a biblically sound interpretation of Christ’s letters in the Temple dust. Yet it will always remain an uncertainty and an issue of faith.
The Law of God instructs both the man and the woman accused of committing adultery be brought before a judge in order to do a thorough investigation, that no one is to be put to death without at least two or three witnesses, and that the witnesses are to throw the first stone, so if Jesus had stoned her, then he would have sinned. Witnesses should be free from sin in the matter that they testify about so that they are not required to condemn themselves through their own testimony, but there was no one who came forward as a witness. It is possible that Jesus writing in the dirt was a reference to Jeremiah 17:13.
 
The Law of God instructs both the man and the woman accused of committing adultery be brought before a judge in order to do a thorough investigation, that no one is to be put to death without at least two or three witnesses, and that the witnesses are to throw the first stone, so if Jesus had stoned her, then he would have sinned. Witnesses should be free from sin in the matter that they testify about so that they are not required to condemn themselves through their own testimony, but there was no one who came forward as a witness. It is possible that Jesus writing in the dirt was a reference to Jeremiah 17:13.
I agree. Jesus was in full compliance with Torah. By telling the Priests and Scribes to throw the first stone, He was reminding them that by doing so, they would sin and be alienated from YHWH. They refused to do so, not because of any sense of mercy, but because they did not want to live separate from their God.

I understand Jeremiah could apply here, but personally, I don't think so. Jeremiah appears to relate to the fate of those who die while deliberately rejecting God. For me, Jeremiah appears to reference the grave. The Hebrew Interlinear Bible has an alternative translation of the Hebrew word 'eres. It can also mean Shoel, the place of the dead. I also note Jesus did not condemn anyone during this encounter; all left with instructions to “sin no more.” Jeremiah was a final judgement. That is another reason I personally do not think it applies, but I cannot rule out that interpretation.

Thank you for the post.
 
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Where is that in Scripture?

According to Scripture, the Mosaic Law required that both the man and the woman involved in adultery be brought before the community and put to death.
The Law in the Old Testament:

  • Leviticus 20:10 &
    Deuteronomy 22:22
    :
    Both the adulterer and the adulteress were to be put to death, aiming to "put away evil from Israel".
  • Deuteronomy 22:23-24
    :
    Specific instructions required that a betrothed woman and the man with her be taken to the city gate and stoned to death.
    Bible Gateway
Key Aspects of the Law:
  • Equal Penalty: The law demanded equal punishment for both parties involved.
  • Evidence: Capital punishment required the testimony of two or three witnesses (Deut 17:6).
    Got Questions +1
The Case of the Woman Caught in Adultery (John 8:3-11):
  • Violation of Law: The Pharisees brought only the woman to Jesus, failing to follow the Mosaic requirement to bring both parties.
  • Jesus’ Judgment: Jesus challenged the accusers to act only if they were without sin, resulting in them leaving.
  • Result: Jesus did not condemn the woman, telling her to "go, and sin no more".
 
Disclaimer: There parts of this article may be controversial. The author considered alternative words to soften the tone, but found them to be ambiguous and misleading. The reader is encouraged to do their own research and draw their own conclusions.

In the entire New Testament, there may not be a more significant or beautiful story than John 8:1-11. It is beautifully written, reveals a precious glimpse of the nature of our Redeemer, and provides an solid basis for following Him by example. Yet this is also considered one of the most enigmatic sections of the Bible.

This is the story of Jesus and the Adulterous Woman. On its surface, it appears to be a pretty straight-forward. Yet it has proven troublesome for two thousand years. Before there was a New testament, there was argument and controversy.

The problems arose at the very beginning, within a few years of John’s death. While early Christian writers attributed the work to John and affirmed its original content, others omitted this section entirely from their Bible translations. Historically these passages have alternatively been included and excluded in different translations. A few translations put these passages in other Bible locations. Several versions, including the venerated KJV, place the passages in brackets indicating they do not appear in early Bible versions.

It is interesting to note that most scholars, modern and ancient, do not challenge the passage’s historical or factual nature. Even more, it is near universally agreed that the words are consistent with the character and teachings of Yeshua. What then sparks all the controversy?

Early Christian writers including Ambrose and Augustine made the claim that these passages promoted sexual sin. Their claim is based on Jesus’ failure to punish the adulterer since He “Forgave her.” This argument borders on ludicrous. He did not forgive her but refused to condemn her, two entirely different acts. But more, God’s love and patience with sinners is fundamental to Christian belief. The idea of instant punishment for sins violates the basic tenants of Christian faith.

There must be a solution to this dilemma. To find it we need to take a deep dive into the Holy Scriptures. Along the way we will also discover the answer to one of the most mysterious questions in Bible history; just what Did Jesus write with his finger in the Temple dust?

Reading John 8:1-11 in context, we first note that the confrontation with the religious leaders is a continuation of events from the previous day. His critics attempted to arrest Yeshua on the last day of the feast of Tabernacles (Sukkot). Jesus was once again confronted by a group of Pharisee’s and Scribes. The Pharisees and Scribes were followers of Halakah, human made rules and traditions. The same man-made synagogue doctrines Jesus had continuously opposed throughout His minister.

Jesus’ opinion of these officials was clearly expressed in Verse 10. He asks the woman, “Where are your accusers?” For a first century Jew, “Accuser” was the word for satan; they would have heard it exactly that way.

There is agreement this was a blatant attempt to trick Jesus into error by violating Halakhah or Roman law so He could be charged. The case against the woman also broke many well-known Mosaic Laws (Torah). In their zeal to persecute Christ, these experts were unwittingly exposing themselves to God’s personal and irrevocable rejection. Christs simple statement about casting a stone against her exposed their own sin. They fully understood and walked away.

To fully understand this incident, we must look elsewhere. The keys to the story; and the solution our original dilemma, can be found in Numbers 5:11-31. In these passages God instructs His people what to do in exactly this situation. He provides a guide to follow when someone is accused of adultery while the truth remains unknown.

In Numbers 5:11-31 a husband believes his wife is an adulterer but has no proof. The wife is taken before the priest. God then provides a test for the truth. The woman is required to swear an oath before God. She agrees that if she is guilty, She will suffer a severe curse. This includes being barren and a slow, agonizing, and humiliating death. The priest writes the curse in ink on a piece of leather and rinses the ink from the leather into a bowl using living water. Dust is collected from the floor of the temple and mixed into the cup. The cup now contains “the bitter water that causes a curse.” The woman is required to drink, understanding she will experience the “curse” if guilty. If innocent, the bitter water will have no effect on her. She will be fully restored.

Now back to the temple in Jerusalem.

The woman has been brought to the Temple for judgement as required in Torah. She is presented to Jesus, the Living Water that gives life. Just the day before, Jesus had encouraged listeners to come and drink from him and receive living water. Yeshua’s connection to living water would be clearly understood.

Jesus than does something unexpected. He bends down and writes something in the dust of the Temple floor. We understand that the Temple dust is an essential part of the adultery test in Numbers 5, but what are the written words of Christ and why did he write them?

At this point in John 8:6, all the necessary elements to test the adulteress have been assembled. There is dust from the Temple floor, living water, and now the required words of the curse written by Jesus.

In Yeshua’s earlier words from the Mount:

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

We have a reasonable and biblically sound explanation of what Jesus wrote. We need to look to history to understand why John 8:1-11 was so controversial.

We noted earlier, Augustine and his teacher Ambrose were both vocal critics of John 8:1-11. They were also significant players in the development and canonization of the New Testament. They were also openly antisemitic. They defined Jews as a special subset of those damned to hell while also sanctifying collective punishment for the murder of Yeshua. They even suggested the enslavement of Jews to Christians for the crime of deicide.

Now perhaps a real motive comes clear for their opposition. John 8:1-11 plainly demonstrate Christs commitment to Torah and highlights his refusal to alter a jot or a tittle of God’s word.

Finally, let us look at how these passages are typically understood in the western church.

Perhaps the most common interpretation is that Jesus is demonstrating His grace to the adulteress; yet this ignores her lack of expressed remorse and repentance. She also makes no statements of faith in the Nazarene. This interpretation also ignores the fact that Christ did not grant her forgiveness. He instead refused to condemn her, leaving her with hope for future redemption, but gave her no grace.

Another conclusion drawn from these passages is a prohibition of sinners casting stones at others. This is a legitimate conclusion that can to drawn from these passages, but would it be cause for their exclusion from the Bible.

Perhaps we now have a historical perspective why John 8:1-11 has remained so controversial. We may also have a biblically sound interpretation of Christ’s letters in the Temple dust. Yet it will always remain an uncertainty and an issue of faith.

Okay, I asked Father God, wh at Son wrote, while Son was put in this test to accuse Son

When son bent down and wrote in the sand
Each accuser saw what Jesus wrote about each one of them. So they left one by one and could not condemn her any longer
Why? Because their own sin was being written right in front of them

They were exposed. So I see what Romans 2:1-4 means now afterwords in the risen Jesus for us all to invite in to sup with each person that chooses to believe God just loves them too
1 John 2:1-27 proves this to me thank you
 
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