Revolution in Iran

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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
Good point. In retrospect I agree with you that that prophecy doesn't pertain to the end of the world,. However, the beast in Revelation does
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The beasts in Daniel and Revelation are the same 4 kingdoms as the statue.

Chapters 2-7 of Daniel are a chiasm:
2 A kingdoms
3 B furnace
4 C Nebuchadnezzar's downfall
5 C Belshazzer's downfall
6 B lion's den
7 A kingdoms

The point being: both the statue and the beasts are concerning the same 4 kingdoms.
 
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No, not fully accurate.

Spain confirmed closing airspace to US planes tied to Iran ops (Reuters, AP, BBC).

Italy denied US bombers landing at Sigonella over missing prior approval (procedural, per Guardian/Reuters; no full airspace block).

France: Trump claims they blocked planes (likely Israeli) carrying US supplies to Israel. French military sources deny restricting US aircraft overflights/landings—policy unchanged (BFMTV/Reuters). Israel accused France of obstruction.

Context: Tensions from US-Israel Iran conflict. Source (IRanMediaco) often amplifies anti-US angles.
 
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JayWalker said:
Those claiming 30,000 Iranians have been killed need to post the proof.




So you think God has no control or authority over Heaven?

His Kingdom is "The Kings Domain" so His Kingdom includes Heaven, but it does not include earth yet.

That comes later...

We see in the Book of Hebrews that Jesus has not assumed full control over this world yet:

Hebrews 2:8
Thou hast put all things in subjection under His feet. for in that
He put all in subjection under Him, He left nothing that is not put
under Him. But now we see not yet all things put under Him

And, we also see that the devil is called the god of this world which
will not change until Jesus returns to start His 1000 year reign and
throws the devil and his demons in to hell.

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which
believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who
is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Jesus speaking of the devil, says he is the prince of this world.

John 14:30
the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

And we see that the last enemy put under foot is death which has not happened as of yet.

1 Corinthians 15:26
The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
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Proof has been posted and widely corroborated and confirmed too besides the raw videos themselves. If one buries their own head in the sand towards it that's their own problem, doesn't negate what actually happened or their ability to very very easily see for themselves.

God controls Heaven and Earth. This is why it was easy to see that the cult that massacred the people and then lied about it were going to die horrifically be turned into Hell with a timestamp of foresight. I wouldn't even call it a prophecy, it's just really easy to see it coming when they're this brazenly wicked if you know the Bible well and truly believe, praise Jesus.

Psalm 9
1 I will praise thee, O Lord, with my whole heart; I will shew forth all thy marvellous works.

2 I will be glad and rejoice in thee: I will sing praise to thy name, O thou most High.

3 When mine enemies are turned back, they shall fall and perish at thy presence.

4 For thou hast maintained my right and my cause; thou satest in the throne judging right.

5 hou hast rebuked the heathen, thou hast destroyed the wicked, thou hast put out their name for ever and ever.

6 O thou enemy, destructions are come to a perpetual end: and thou hast destroyed cities; their memorial is perished with them.

7 But the Lord shall endure for ever: he hath prepared his throne for judgment.

8 And he shall judge the world in righteousness, he shall minister judgment to the people in uprightness.

9 The Lord also will be a refuge for the oppressed, a refuge in times of trouble.

10 And they that know thy name will put their trust in thee: for thou, Lord, hast not forsaken them that seek thee.

11 Sing praises to the Lord, which dwelleth in Zion: declare among the people his doings.

12 ;When he maketh inquisition for blood, he remembereth them: he forgetteth not the cry of the humble.

13 Have mercy upon me, O Lord; consider my trouble which I suffer of them that hate me, thou that liftest me up from the gates of death:

14 That I may shew forth all thy praise in the gates of the daughter of Zion: I will rejoice in thy salvation.

15 The heathen are sunk down in the pit that they made: in the net which they hid is their own foot taken.

16 The Lord is known by the judgment which he executeth: the wicked is snared in the work of his own hands. Higgaion. Selah.

17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

18 For the needy shall not always be forgotten: the expectation of the poor shall not perish for ever.

19 Arise, O Lord; let not man prevail: let the heathen be judged in thy sight.

20 Put them in fear, O Lord: that the nations may know themselves to be but men. Selah.
 
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SonJudgment said:
Proof has been posted and widely corroborated and confirmed too besides the raw videos themselves.
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OK so post it up again!

Telling someone "hey man, you go look for it" reeks of there not being any proof.

Seems like it there is p[roof you would have saved it in your notes to be able to post it again or may have book marked it for easy access so you could repost again as needed..

So if no proof is posted, we'll put that down as there is no proof because if there was it would and could be reposted as needed.


SonJudgment said:
This is why it was easy to see that the cult that massacred the people and then lied about it were going to die horrifically be turned into Hell with a timestamp of foresight.
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And how do we know that it was all propaganda put out by Iranian leadership to scare their citizens in to not revolting and there has not actually been 30k Iranian citizens murdered?
 
JayWalker said:
OK so post it up again!

Telling someone "hey man, you go look for it" reeks of there not being any proof.

Seems like it there is p[roof you would have saved it in your notes to be able to post it again or may have book marked it for easy access so you could repost again as needed..

So if no proof is posted, we'll put that down as there is no proof because if there was it would and could be reposted as needed.




And how do we know that it was all propaganda put out by Iranian leadership to scare their citizens in to not revolting and there has not actually been 30k Iranian citizens murdered?
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i'll do it one more time, but other than that if you're too lazy to click, then you're too lazy, that's you're problem not mine.

 
I don't listen to these, so maybe someone can fill me in. Are these guys who are campaigning Netanyahu for US president backing off on his war now?

 
SonJudgment said:
i'll do it one more time, but other than that if you're too lazy to click, then you're too lazy, that's you're problem not mine.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=iran+massacre+body+bags
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Looks like maybe a few hundred, far far short of 30,000
This is what I'm talking about. Claiming 30k dead is speculation when the videos only show a few hundred.

And that's assuming those are actual dead people in the body bags and this isn't all propaganda

If a regime puts on a good enough propaganda show and gets citizens scared of dying then there's no need to kill 30k people which is much less work for the regime
 
JayWalker said:
Looks like maybe a few hundred, far far short of 30,000
This is what I'm talking about. Claiming 30k dead is speculation when the videos only show a few hundred.

And that's assuming those are actual dead people in the body bags and this isn't all propaganda

If a regime puts on a good enough propaganda show and gets citizens scared of dying then there's no need to kill 30k people which is much less work for the regime
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Remember they blacked out their own internet to cast a veil of shadows over it with lies and dismassals. The count rose from the thousands to tens of thousands easily, there's a ton of different videos from different locales. 30,000~ is actually the more conservative estimate at this point. Indeed assessing and their war of information and the cult regime's propaganda trying to dismiss and downplay their wicked and heinous massacre are part of the earlier plotline of this topic. Just go back and read the earlier pages I suppose. The massacre happened at the start of January remember, the strike happened last day of February.here we are last day of March. God has seen and God has answered, indeed Psalm 9 fits this topic well, praise Jesus.
 
JayWalker said:
Which cannot be proven to be nothing more than propaganda used to try and scare their own citizens




Yes, lots of speculation but no proof.

With AI they can make almost anything seem true
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It's already proven, you're quibbling over the numbers to try to downplay it to run cover for the Enemy, but its a self-defeating tactic because you've already tacitly admitted the massacre happened affirming the videos and images of hundreds of bodies from just one town. It be wiser for you to just surrender, admit your error, you don't have to put a show on it you can do this internally in your heart and head, and adjust, the massacre happened, and happily at this point most of those responsible are now punished, as they deserve. We look to now how to wrap up the remainders and finish the job, that will the be the plotline of this month. God has ensured these villains will never get away with it, praise Jesus.
 
SonJudgment said:
It's already proven, you're quibbling over the numbers to try to downplay it to run cover for the Enemy, but its a self-defeating tactic because you've already tacitly admitted the massacre happened affirming the videos and images of hundreds of bodies from just one town. It be wiser for you to just surrender, admit your error, you don't have to put a show on it you can do this internally in your heart and head, and adjust, the massacre happened, and happily at this point most of those responsible are now punished, as they deserve. We look to now how to wrap up the remainders and finish the job, that will the be the plotline of this month. God has ensured these villains will never get away with it, praise Jesus.
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I really wonder how much you are receiving for your services.;)
 
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HeIsHere said:
Well then you have a problem because eternal life is not a reward.
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Ya'll really wanna suck me into that BDF side digression, alright, just a little taster of milk then before bed I guess, and then back to the central topic tomorrow. Praise Jesus.

Hebrews 11:6
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

John 5:24-29
24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.

26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.

28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
 
ZNP said:
The Bible teaches us that God is precise. That the proof that He is God is that He alone can tell us the end from the beginning. The Bible also teaches us that it is the honor of kings to search a matter out.

For a prophecy like the dry bones returning to the land to be fulfilled is a glory to God. Seeing the Israelites walking out of the death camps and into the good land and for all that to take place in a single day is an extraordinary fulfillment of prophecy that is a glory to God. But for that same prophecy to have occurred in 1948, the very year prophesied in Ezekiel makes all those who want to deny God without excuse. Think of these ones who claim that God's covenant with Israel was cut off after they rejected Jesus, this proves beyond any doubt that they are wrong because the time line was given in the covenant. It shows the covenant with Israel is still in force, they were punished, they were given a time out, and when the time was up God brought them back.

1.
We limit not the truth of God
To our poor reach of mind,
By notions of our day and sect,
Crude, partial, and confined.
No, let a new and better hope
Within our hearts be stirred:
The Lord hath yet more light and truth
To break forth from His Word.
2.
Who dares to bind to their dull sense
The oracles of heav'n,
For all the nations, tongues, and climes,
And all the ages given?
That universe, how much unknown!
That ocean unexplored!
The Lord hath yet more light and truth
To break forth from His Word.

(George Rawson, 1853)
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The book of Ezekiel does not provide a precise, chronological timeline for the modern return of Israel to Jerusalem in 1948. Instead, Ezekiel’s prophecies regarding the return of Israel as having a primary fulfillment in the return from the Babylonian exile (6th century BC) and a ultimate spiritual fulfillment in the gathering of believers (both Jew and Gentile) into the Church through Jesus Christ.
Ezekiel was speaking to a specific audience in Babylonian captivity. The "return" prophesied in chapters 34-48 is primarily about God bringing a remnant back from Babylon to rebuild the Temple under Zerubbabel, Ezra, and Nehemiah.
The famous vision of the valley of dry bones (Ezekiel 37) is a metaphor for the restoration of Israel from Babylonian exile, not necessarily a prophecy of the 1948 establishment of the modern State of Israel.
The bones coming to life represents God’s "Spirit" bringing dead Israel back to life, spiritually regenerating them.
The two sticks (Ezekiel 37:15-28) represent the reunion of the Northern (Israel) and Southern (Judah) kingdoms, which align with the gathering of all God's people under the one King, Jesus Christ (the new David).
The days are viewed as symbolic sign-acts representing the duration of the punishment of iniquity, which ended when Jerusalem fell to Babylon in 586 BC.

Israel's physical restoration is a type/shadow of the spiritual gathering of the Church (the "Israel of God," Galatians 6:16) and the ultimate bringing in of the new covenant, where God's Spirit dwells in his people.

Many follow a view (similar to Jonathan Edwards) that there will be a widespread conversion of ethnic Jews to Christ in the future, yet this is distinct from viewing the modern secular State of Israel as the literal, direct fulfillment of Ezekiel's prophecies.

In summary, Ezekiel's prophecies are focusing on God's faithfulness to his covenant, fulfilled in the return from Babylon and realized fully in Christ, rather than as a calculator for modern political events.
 
cv5 said:
A lot of pastors fumble, disbelieve or despise prophecy. For others, its just past their pay grade.
Fortunately, every time a specific time-constrained prophecy is recorded, it unfailingly resolves to absolute perfection.

Such as the 173,880 days to the 10th Nisan.

Or the 2520 prophetic years to May 14, 1948 and June 7, 1967.

Oh yes, the math is spot on. Are you handy with math? Maybe you can calculate this and get back to us.

Hag 2:18
Consider now from this day and upward, from the four and twentieth day of the ninth month, even from the day that the foundation of the LORD'S temple was laid, consider it.

Lev 26:18
And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins.
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My Pastor rejects the view that the modern, secular state of Israel is the direct fulfillment of biblical prophecy. Instead, we believe the spiritual promises to Israel are fulfilled in Jesus Christ and the church.

We reject the use of numerology to set dates (e.g., creating calculations to identify 1948) and we reject the "prophetic year" (360-day) calculations used in this interpretation.

We consider the "return of Israel" in Scripture as fulfilled by: The return from Babylon in the 6th century BC and the gathering of all believers (Jew and Gentile) into the Church through the Gospel.
 
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