Paul is wrong and you are right. Is that what you are trying to say?
No, I'm saying you are an unbelieving Christian neo-pharisee
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No, I'm saying you are an unbelieving Christian neo-pharisee
"Is the Church an enemy of the Gospel? Is the Church in partial blindness until the fullness of the gentiles have come in?"
Good call. And a superb demonstration of the abject nuttery and appalling failure to rightly comprehend even the most straightforward Biblical doctrine. Really this amounts to straight up brazen denial of Paul's teaching by the replacement theology crew.
I fear that things will go badly for them at the end.
Go ahead. Lash out in denial. All will be accounted for and settled by the Judge.
As it will be for these who likewise despise Israel.
BTW, the context is "end-times" and the nations surrounding ISRAEL.
Mat 25:32
And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
Mat 25:33
And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
Mat 25:41
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
Mat 25:46
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
"They chant “Death to America,” yet send their own children to study and live there. The hypocrisy is staggering."
The sheep, ie., Christ's brothers, in that parable are those who do the will of God. Again, you are teaching the doctrine of the pharisees that rewards unbelief and rebellion against God
And He answered them, saying, Who is My mother or My brothers? And having looked around on those sitting around Him in a circle, He said, Behold, My mother and My brothers! For whoever does the will of GOD, this one is My brother, and My sister, and My mother. Mark 3:33-35
I disagree with your view cause these verses differentiate between gentiles and unbelieving Israel
Abject failure and denial. Your calling card.
Mat 25:32
And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
You guys are seriously disturbed and double-minded. On one hand, Israel is a nation; on the other, it isn't a nation. All nations means all nations.
With all due respect, I must reject your views and believe what the Bible teaches instead.
John the Baptist was a date setter, he said that Jesus was the lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world indicating that he would be crucified on Passover.
Jesus was a date setter because He told the disciples that He would be crucified when He got to Jerusalem.
Daniel was a date setter because he gave us the year that Jesus would be crucified.
Jeremiah was a date setter because he told Israel how many years they would be in Babylon before God gave them permission to return.
Abraham was a date setter because he told us that God told him how many years his descendants would be in Egypt before they would be allowed to leave.
Your "minister" taught you that, "Every date-setter in history has been wrong. Such predictions bring disrepute to the Gospel and cause unnecessary trauma when the date passes". He is wrong, because I just have you five examples in the Bible where they were not wrong, and five examples in the Bible that did not bring disrepute to the Gospel.
Yes, silencing the replacement theology crew. This is the way.
Leave them babbling incoherently for all the world to see. This is also the way.
The principle is identical. In both cases only a remnant of the whole that identifies as a particular group is actually the true group. The rest are tares and dried branches that are burned.
So again, you are stating that in these passages, every identity specified is actually the Church?
Nonsensical bafflegab like that defies every principle of context, identity, Greek terminology, Greek grammatical construction, and hermeneutics. Spouting garbage like that is how cults are formed and rubber rooms are populated.
Rom 11:25
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, ***until*** the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:28
As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
I have always stated that the NATION Israel will be Redeemed by Christ yet future.
Precisely the inverse of their NATIONAL rejection.
You may think that this is all a joke. But stay tuned. You will have plenty of time for regrets.
Christ knows the thoughts of the heart so duck and cover!
Let me paraphrase this for you:
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness to Israel has happened only in part until the fulness of the gentiles be come in. In other words, God has not cast Israel completely away, so that you can boast in yourselves because you are better than them; and there will always be a part of Israel that believes until the end.
And so all of the believing remnant of Israel throughout all of time will saved in the same manner, ie, by the new covenant removal of their sins.
As concerning the gospel, the unbelieving part of Israel (the part that's blinded) are enemies for your sake, but as touching the election of God, the believing remnant of Israel are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
So simple a child could understand
Bafflegab and gobbledygook are both slang terms for confusing, jargon-filled, or unintelligible language, and they are frequently used as synonyms for each other. However, they have different origins and slight nuances in how they are applied:
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- Gobbledygook refers specifically to the overinvolved, pompous talk of officialdom or professional jargon that fails to communicate. Coined in 1944 by Texas politician Maury Maverick, it was originally used to mock the "turkey noise" of bureaucratic jargon.
- Bafflegab is a mid-20th-century (circa 1952) term used to describe confusing, oratory, or written jargon that is specifically intended to "baffle" or deceive the recipient. It is considered a more targeted form of jargon used to obscure meaning.
- Origin: Gobbledygook (1944) was coined to mean long-winded, ridiculous official speech. Bafflegab (1952) was coined by a lawyer to describe, specifically, a "confusing mix of jargon".
- Implication: While both are nonsense, gobbledygook often implies a "nonsensical turkey gobble" (rambling, long-windedness), whereas bafflegab implies a deliberate effort to create confusion using complicated, specialized language.
- Usage: Both are used to describe complex legal, financial, or corporate reports, but "bafflegab" often points more directly to the deceitful, confusing nature of the text.
I would use gobbledygook for nonsensical speech that is pompous while Bafflegab seems more deceitful, a deliberate effort to confuse people. So are you implying that the poster is intentionally being deceitful?
This is a pharisaical fantasy. Nations can't have faith; only people can. There is no such thing as a national salvation as pertains to the nation (kingdom) of God.
Already debunked many times. Proven conclusively by enormous quantities and finest quality of actual Bible references.
The doctrine of the redemption of the Nation Israel is so VASTLY overwhelming that only a nutter or heretic would dare despute it.
You follow the rubber room fantasy of Augustin. He was the originator of this monsterous heresy. Easily proven.
An heresy never known nor spoken to by the ante-Nicene fathers and legit early Church.