Revolution in Iran

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Yeah, right.

Take a close look........ALL WOMEN and CHILDREN.

Forced people....women and children.

Hope and pray Trump changes this regime and frees those poor people.

Your hero has explicitly stated "the whole civilization is going to die tonight" they are saying "go for it we are not afraid of you, bully'

Please stop with "we are rescuing them" nonsense, so obviously a lie from the start.

We have two possible scenarios, a dying empire, desperately trying to maintain its hegemony, but is actually making it worse.

Or,

They are on a path of purposeful self-destruction, meaning that "liberty and the pursuit of happiness for all" is done and the technocrats will share the spoils and institute the age of techno feudalism, but hey we have Darby the false teacher who promised the rapture .. who cares about the following generations.

Dispensationalism is one of the most self-centered doctrines, no wonder it was promulgated largely by boomers.
 
Still a slim chance, hurry, run fast to your evil lovers and tell them to surrender if you actually value their lives. We warned them enough, gave them ample chances and time. Praise Jesus.

 

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1 Thessalonians 4:15 -- "those who are alive and remain" indicating there are some that are no longer there, that is, they have already been taken.

In 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4 Paul says the day of the Lord cannot have already past until the man of sin is revealed and sits in the temple, portraying himself as God. That takes place in the middle of the seven years. The Thessalonians thought they had missed the entire seven years, not simply the rapture.

Revelation 13:7 yes, the saints are present during the tribulation. They are called the "left behind". There are three harvests: Firstfruits, general harvest and gleanings. The firstfruits are offered to God and represent the "raptured saints". During the tribulation you will have the general harvest and the gleanings.

Yes, during the tribulation the saints are protected by the Lord, we have a promise that He will never leave us or forsake us. That said we are also told they are beheaded if they refuse the mark of the beast.

Yes, the Wheat and tares grow together. Wheat is harvested using a Tribulum, a heavy roller that breaks the chaff away from the grains. This is where we get the term "tribulation". The purpose of the tribulation is to separate the wheat from the chaff (Christians holding onto the world). However, prior to the harvest the firstfruits must be offered to God, He blesses them and that blesses the whole harvest.

Another shadow of the rapture is the sanctification of the priests. They are separated from the congregation for seven days, ie the seven years of the tribulation.

Another shadow is that the high priest is brought to the temple and kept in a chamber for seven days prior to the day of Atonement, the day of Judgement which would be the last year of the seven year tribulation.
Your interpretation of those verses doesn't make any sense, the bible never mentions anything about being 3 raptures.
1 Thessalonians 4:15 as a comforting assurance that believers who have died ("fallen asleep") will not miss or be disadvantaged at Christ’s Second Coming. It teaches that the dead in Christ will be resurrected first, followed by the immediate catching up of living believers to meet the Lord, emphasizing a unified, single resurrection event.
2 Thessalonians 2:1-4 is emphasizing that the "day of the Lord" is not imminent because a significant "apostasy" (falling away) and the revelation of the "man of lawlessness" (Antichrist) must occur first. It focuses on God’s sovereignty in history, the reality of a final spiritual rebellion, and the ultimate destruction of evil by Jesus.
Revelation 13:7—where the beast is allowed to make war on and conquer the saints—is the ongoing persecution of the Church by antichristian, totalitarian, or state-worshiping systems, rather than exclusively a future event. It highlights that this power is allowed by God (sovereignty), impacts all tribes/nations (global scope), and is a spiritual attack against the faithful.

Yes, the saints—the Church—will be present on earth during the tribulation and many will be killed (martyred) for their faith. The Bible does not support a secret pre-tribulation rapture that rescues the church from persecution, viewing the tribulation as a period where the church overcomes through faithfulness even unto death.

Your interpretation of the harvest doesn't make sense, because (Christians don't hold on to the world). You need to understand that Christians don't hold onto the world, that's what the children of the Devil do. Gods people hold on to Christ.
 
"We have around 120 members, and not a single ones has ever found any fault in anything he teaches."

Frankly, this person is batting zero as regards the primary and most important eschatological and soteriological doctrinal pillars.
But certainly nothing unusual nowadays. Most seminaries are packed with unbelieving professors. Garbage in garbage out.
Thank you for proving my point, you attack the man but you can't find a single fault in anything he preaches. That's the typical response of those who, can't defend their own theology.
 
God's way is higher than any other way. Who He uses or doesn't use isn't up to us. He used a fish for Jonah, he used a donkey for Balaam, a rooster for Peter.

There's not one instance in the bible of God using a foreign power to protect Israel. In fact, God sharply rebuked kings for forming foreign alliances to that end. The reason you have to believe God is doing so now is because you're following the doctrine of the pharisees, and not the faith of Christ..
 
Oh and BTW, that which you have concluded is standard error for newbies who stumble into an Augustininan amillennial "Church".

It may take 20 years for you to discover the actual intended meaning of those passages.

Good luck kid. You are gonna need it.

Oh and BTW, the PRE-TRIB rapture is the ONLY "order/rank" of resurrection where STILL LIVING believers are "TRANSFORMED".
Like the OT "types" Enoch and Elijah, and MANY others, all of whom of whom are portrayals of a pre-trib rapture.

You see kid, some of us actually DO know what we are talking about. And DO rightly divide the truth and preach sound doctrine.

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Enoch left
Lot left
Rahab left
Ruth married
Joseph’s bride secured
Isaac’s bride sheltered
Daniel absent
Elijah taken

OT patterns confirm the pre-trib rapture:
-The HEBREW Passover pattern
-The HEBREW marriage protocol pattern

What needs to be understood is that God embeds prophetic patterns (“types”) in the Old Testament long before He reveals the doctrine plainly in the New Testament (1 Cor 10:11).

God removes or shelters the righteous before He pours out global or regional judgment.

Below are the major OT rapture-types that form a unified prophetic pattern.

1) Enoch — Removed before judgment

Genesis 5:24
“And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.”

Enoch was:
• Righteous
• Walking with God
• Removed before the Flood (the greatest judgment in history)

This is the purest rapture type in the Bible.

Noah (Israel) goes through the Flood
Enoch (the Church) is taken out beforehand

This is not accidental — Hebrews 11:5 explicitly says Enoch was translated (Greek: metatithēmi = moved from one place to another without dying).

2) Noah & the Ark — Israel protected, Church removed

The Flood is the OT type of the Tribulation.

Person What happened Prophetic role
Enoch Taken away Church raptured
Noah Preserved through wrath Israel protected
World Judged Tribulation

Jesus directly linked His Second Coming to the days of Noah (Matthew 24:37).

The structure is identical to Revelation.

3) Lot — Removed before fire fell

Genesis 19:22
“Haste thee… for I cannot do anything till thou be come thither.”

God literally says:

“I cannot judge Sodom until Lot is gone.”

This is massive.

Lot is not a great saint — yet he is righteous (2 Peter 2:7-8).
God forcibly removes him before judgment falls.

Jesus explicitly ties Lot to end-time judgment in Luke 17:28-30.

4) Isaac — The bride never goes into the wilderness

In Genesis 24:

• Isaac (the son) stays home
• A servant (Holy Spirit) goes to get a bride
• Rebekah is taken to Isaac
• She never enters the wilderness

Israel goes through the wilderness
The Bride does not

This is the clearest picture of the Church being taken to Christ before Jacob’s trouble begins.

5) Joseph — The Gentile bride before the famine

Joseph is rejected by his brothers (Israel), then:

• Exalted to Gentile ruler
• Takes a Gentile bride
• Then the 7-year famine begins
• Then he is revealed to Israel

This is textbook:
Christ → Church → Tribulation → Israel restored

6) Ruth — The Church gathered before judgment

You already noted this one, but here’s the prophetic key:

• Ruth (Gentile bride) is married to Boaz
• Before Naomi (Israel) is restored
• Before famine ends
• Before the kingdom blessing comes

Ruth is not present during Israel’s time of national chastening — she is already in union with the Redeemer.

7) Elijah — Taken before Israel enters tribulation

Elijah is:
• Taken up
• Then Elisha ministers to Israel during a time of judgment and apostasy

Elijah = Church
Elisha = Israel’s prophetic witness during tribulation

Malachi 4 ties Elijah to the end times.

8) Rahab — Taken out before Jericho falls

Rahab (a Gentile believer) is:
• Sealed
• Removed
• Then judgment falls on the city

Again: rescued before destruction.

9) Daniel removed before the furnace

Daniel (a type of the Church) is absent from Daniel 3.

The three Hebrew men (Israel) go into the fire
Daniel (Church) is nowhere to be found

Exactly like Revelation: the Church is gone, Israel is refined.

10) The consistent rule

Throughout the OT:

God never pours out covenantal wrath on His redeemed people.

That is why:
• Enoch left
• Lot left
• Rahab left
• Ruth married
• Joseph’s bride secured
• Isaac’s bride sheltered
• Daniel absent
• Elijah taken

And then judgment comes.

Why this matters

The pre-tribulation rapture is not built on one verse — it is built on the entire architecture of Scripture.

It is how God has always worked.

“For God hath not appointed us to wrath…” (1 Thess 5:9)
You need to either ignore or twist the meaning of many scriptures for your eschatology to float. The reality is, you're borrowing irrelevant scriptures from the OT and misapplying them to the NT, while sidestepping the NT scriptures which expose your interpretation as misguided.

Without getting bogged down in futile disputes, I'll just mention a couple of verses from the NT which destroy the pre-trib rapture theory.

1. Matthew 24:29-31 Jesus states that "immediately after the tribulation of those days" he will gather his elect, aligning the gathering (rapture) with his post-tribulation return.
2. John 6:39-40 44, 54: Jesus repeatedly promises to raise believers up "on the last day," reinforcing that the resurrection/gathering happens at the end of time, not years prior as you're suggesting.
"Meeting" the Lord: The Greek term for "meet" (apantesis) in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 refers to a welcoming delegation going out to meet a visiting dignitary and escorting him back into the city, suggesting believers meet Christ in the air to escort him to earth, not to flee to heaven.
 
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