Revolution in Iran

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cv5 said:
Hi @Ruthie

Did you get the memo?
Israel is actually really truly in the land. The land granted waaaay back in Genesis 15.

Oddly enough, @HeIsHere @ChristRoseFromTheDead @Journey_man
have yet to acknowledge or comment on this startling development.

Maybe you can offer a sane, cogent reasoned answer as to why this glaring omission?
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Jaywalker,
What is happening now is very disheartening.. Does your heart not grieve about the genocide Israel is committing against the Palestinians in Gaza? Do you not care about our brothers and sisters in Christ that are dying in Gaza, Lebanon, and Iran? And so many innocent people of other faiths dying in these Countries. Our very own US troops dead and injured. Do you not have any sorrow?
There are very many evil people in power now that are trying to start WW3. Trump and Netanyahu are being used by satan.

Millions will starve in Asia with no fertilizer being able to get through the strait. The great reset is coming. Digital currency, famine, death and destruction.

And no, American Christians will not be secretly raptured out and avoid the terrible tribulation to come. I am always amazed how this false doctrine was so embraced. Remember he who endures to the end will be saved. Our Lord and Savior is only coming back one more time.

War is evil. No Christian should ever be happy and find joy in people suffering. We all should be praying for an end to this madness.

I will end with this from our precious Lord and Savior Jesus

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called Sons of God". Matthew 5-9
 
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Ruthie said:
Jaywalker,
What is happening now is very disheartening.. Does your heart not grieve about the genocide Israel is committing against the Palestinians in Gaza? Do you not care about our brothers and sisters in Christ that are dying in Gaza, Lebanon, and Iran? And so many innocent people of other faiths dying in these Countries. Our very own US troops dead and injured. Do you not have any sorrow?
There are very many evil people in power now that are trying to start WW3. Trump and Netanyahu are being used by satan.

Millions will starve in Asia with no fertilizer being able to get through the strait. The great reset is coming. Digital currency, famine, death and destruction.

And no, American Christians will not be secretly raptured out and avoid the terrible tribulation to come. I am always amazed how this false doctrine was so embraced. Remember he who endures to the end will be saved. Our Lord and Savior is only coming back one more time.

War is evil. No Christian should ever be happy and find joy in people suffering. We all should be praying for an end to this madness.

I will end with this from our precious Lord and Savior Jesus

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called Sons of God". Matthew 5-9
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I would urge actions similar to what the Gibeonites wisely chose to do.....

And why did they do it? Here is why:
"for we have heard the fame of him, and all that he did in Egypt,"

"And all that he did to the two kings of the Amorites, that were beyond Jordan, to Sihon king of Heshbon, and to Og king of Bashan, which was at Ashtaroth."

Does the whole world likewise know of these things done in those bygone days? Yes, they surely know. Therefore they are without excuse.

Jos 9:3 - And when the inhabitants of Gibeon heard what Joshua had done unto Jericho and to Ai,

Jos 9:6 - And they went to Joshua unto the camp at Gilgal, and said unto him, and to the men of Israel, We be come from a far country: now therefore make ye a league with us.

Jos 9:9 - And they said unto him, From a very far country thy servants are come because of the name of the LORD thy God: for we have heard the fame of him, and all that he did in Egypt,

Jos 9:11 - Wherefore our elders and all the inhabitants of our country spake to us, saying, Take victuals with you for the journey, and go to meet them, and say unto them, We are your servants: therefore now make ye a league with us.
 
ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
What next on your part? Christ denial? Oh n/m, you're already doing that.
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I certainly do NOT deny the Second Coming of Jesus Messiah the Kinsman Redeemer of Israel for his wife of old the Nation Israel.

And you.....?

Jdg 15:3 - And Samson said to them, “This time I shall be blameless regarding the Philistines if I harm them!”

Jdg 15:2 - Her father said, “I really thought that you thoroughly hated her; therefore I gave her to your companion. Is not her younger sister better than she? Please, take her instead.”

Jdg 15:8 - So he attacked them hip and thigh with a great slaughter; then he went down and dwelt in the cleft of the rock of Etam.

Hos 2:16 - “And it shall be, in that day,”
Says the LORD,
“That you will call Me ‘My Husband,’
And no longer call Me ‘My Master,’

Hos 2:19 - “I will betroth you to Me forever;
Yes, I will betroth you to Me
In righteousness and justice,
In lovingkindness and mercy;
 
ZNP said:
Paul is the one who came up with the gospel to the nations. It was 15 to 30 years after the crucifixion that the letters of Paul were written. Long after your "70th week" is over. So not only did the gospel not go to the nations, it didn't go to any of the nations. Peter opened the door, but they didn't have the gospel for the uncircumcision yet, didn't publish it and didn't preach it.
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I'm not defending anyone's escatology.
It is evident that God told His people throughout history to reach the Heathen.

Psalm 96:1.
O sing unto the LORD a new song: sing unto the LORD, all the earth. 2Sing unto the LORD, bless his name; shew forth his salvation from day to day. 3Declare his glory among the heathen, his wonders among all people...10 Say among the heathen that the LORD reigneth:
Immediately after Jesus ' resurrection, 15And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
Mark 16

Multiple times before His ascension He commanded them to "19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen."
Matthew 28

Acts 1. 8But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
 
HeIsHere said:
No gap correct/biblical view.

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So, for clarification- what this timeline diagram does, essentially has Daniel 9 referring to the time of Antiochus Epiphanes- not Titus/70AD. This effectively makes Daniel mostly non-eschatological- the references to Daniel resting and receiving his inheritance are there to reassure Daniel that God is still going to fulfill everything he has always said; rather than the entire prophecy pointing to end-times. Sealing up the scroll "until the time of the end", likely means "until you die", like he tells Daniel "Go you way to the end" likely means "until you die" rather than until the end of time, or the world, or anything else.
 
Ruthie said:
Jaywalker,
What is happening now is very disheartening.. Does your heart not grieve about the genocide Israel is committing against the Palestinians in Gaza? Do you not care about our brothers and sisters in Christ that are dying in Gaza, Lebanon, and Iran? And so many innocent people of other faiths dying in these Countries. Our very own US troops dead and injured. Do you not have any sorrow?
There are very many evil people in power now that are trying to start WW3. Trump and Netanyahu are being used by satan.

Millions will starve in Asia with no fertilizer being able to get through the strait. The great reset is coming. Digital currency, famine, death and destruction.

And no, American Christians will not be secretly raptured out and avoid the terrible tribulation to come. I am always amazed how this false doctrine was so embraced. Remember he who endures to the end will be saved. Our Lord and Savior is only coming back one more time.

War is evil. No Christian should ever be happy and find joy in people suffering. We all should be praying for an end to this madness.

I will end with this from our precious Lord and Savior Jesus

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called Sons of God". Matthew 5-9
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First of all you lament wars that are inevitable?
And you are terrified and think them to be avoidable?
And then in the same breath say that they are coming upon the Church who will go thru the 70th week time of Jacob's trouble?

Sorry......all of that is completely unbiblical.

Luk 21:9
But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things MUST first come to pass; but the end is not by and by.

Go ahead and check out the rapture threads here. The harpazo is doubtless boilerplate accurate Biblical doctrine.
 
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SomeDisciple said:
So, for clarification- what this timeline diagram does, essentially has Daniel 9 referring to the time of Antiochus Epiphanes- not Titus/70AD. This effectively makes Daniel mostly non-eschatological- the references to Daniel resting and receiving his inheritance are there to reassure Daniel that God is still going to fulfill everything he has always said; rather than the entire prophecy pointing to end-times. Sealing up the scroll "until the time of the end", likely means "until you die", like he tells Daniel "Go you way to the end" likely means "until you die" rather than until the end of time, or the world, or anything else.
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For the Reformed group (and others) to say that the abomination desolation refers to the crucifixion is by far the most outlandish and bizarre dogmatic device in all of Christendom. Nothing else compares in term of gravitas.

Oh......and a concurrent 70th week fits absolutely NOTHING of legit historical significance. Many have tried to glom these together, all have failed miserably.

@ChristRoseFromTheDead literally misquoted Scripture to support a "midst of the week" theory.

The truth is that the 70th week of Daniel (the time of Jacobs trouble that ushers in the Second Coming) has consumed more ink and paper in the Bible that any other topic. Nothing else even comes close.

No rational sane honest person would declare that all of the OT prophecies and their Book or Revelation fulfillments have already taken place.
 
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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
Why don't you show us what you claim?
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You have already been shown twice or three times by me already. Copied and pasted your exact words.
And now you disavow. Again. This also a recurring denial.

Cuz you know......denial is the way to avoid blame and keep the dogma shell and pea con game going.
 
HealthAndHappiness said:
I'm not defending anyone's escatology.
It is evident that God told His people throughout history to reach the Heathen.

Psalm 96:1.
O sing unto the LORD a new song: sing unto the LORD, all the earth. 2Sing unto the LORD, bless his name; shew forth his salvation from day to day. 3Declare his glory among the heathen, his wonders among all people...10 Say among the heathen that the LORD reigneth:
Immediately after Jesus ' resurrection, 15And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
Mark 16

Multiple times before His ascension He commanded them to "19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen."
Matthew 28

Acts 1. 8But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
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I based my statement on what Paul said:

Galatians 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.

Galatians 2:2 And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain.

Galatians 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;

So although the gospel he preached is based on the word of God in the Old Testament as well as what the Lord said in the gospels, I think it is clear from Galatians 2 that it wasn't until the apostles heard from him that they approved this. From Acts we can see that prior to Paul Christians were seen as a sect of Judaism.
 
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cv5 said:
You have already been shown twice or three times by me already. Copied and pasted your exact words.
And now you disavow. Again. This also a recurring denial.

Cuz you know......denial is the way to avoid blame and keep the dogma shell and pea con game going.
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You're a liar
 
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