Adventists, Ellen G. White, failed prophecies and scripture
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Raised by Protestant parents to attend, in suit and tie, weekly "services." I knew something was wrong then, with the hypocrisy and all the rest of it, and I know it's wrong today. I was even elected class President at a parochial school (I was a jock and a nice guy, strictly a popularity contest).
God sorted me out later in life, age 45. Had an incredible encounter with Jesus Christ at a time when demons were all over me because of my wicked double life. I did a 180 and have never looked back. Thank you, Jesus!
I once walked into a church and everyone were wearing formal attire.
I was so embarrassed because I was wearing a t-shirt and shorts.
It is not difficult to see through the tradition and theology of so many church denominations.
I guess, when your born into a denomination and everyone you know belongs in that church
movement. It would be so difficult to even point out the issues let alone leave that church.
So glad the Lord opened your eyes.
Your are right ! From your delusional decepted viewpoint, Truth is is a Lie ...
"in a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" ~ Venturino Venturini
But, I can do no more, nor no less ... for you... SAD !!
The anti-Christ for 500+ years has had the philosophy of, "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it" ... widely attributed to Joseph Goebbels, Adolf Hitler's Minister of Propaganda.
Isaiah 5:20 describes this deceptive pattern by declaring, "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil; who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter."
Anyone here wanting to watch an excellent presentation of "Present Truth" on the understanding of these
"Last Day Events" so that what is coming upon the Earth, doesn't take you by surprise, as Satan would have it.,
Watch any of the following videos ..
They give the Bible Truth about this battle going on in the World, between Good & Evil ...
These videos are more entertaining and spiritually advantageous, than anything Helly-Wood puts out...
Grab yur popcorn, enjoy and be enlightened, I pray
Armageddon and the Final Events of Bible Prophecy
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Revelation: The Bride, The Beast & Babylon
&The Days of Noah: The Flood (Part 1)
The Days of Noah: The Valley of Decision (part 3)
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Open doors is a good way to describe it.
Yeah we get to keep our sanctified personalities.
My excuse was my gripe was not against God. It's been a journey.
I said no more than once to opportunities others would have jumped at. I'm not into showmanship and today there is not much so called 'worship' music I actually like.
Oh listen...if you want to pick up a demon or two just go to church and accept everything especially if is a charasmatic or a church that speaks against the gifts. Can you imagine the gasps from some people reading this?
Amen. I am blessed to see a good number of godly people tuning into this thread.
Oh I dunno
Is being obnoxious and lying constantly and twisting or ignoring what people say to you to be emulated? 
I don't know how much of this thread you have read, but mr cereal was (sorry) quite insane and you can read about his musings to this very day and purchase his literary efforts still if you have the stomach for it.
truly
Same here. I have had an incredibly varied life. But one thing still yet on my bucket list is to learn to play guitar. So I finally got a good guitar, but after a bit more research, I discovered that all the learning modalities utilize modern and/or secular music. I don't wanna be a "rock star" !!!
“All music should have no other end and aim than the glory of God and the soul's refreshment; where this is not remembered there is no real music but only a devilish hubbub.” - J. S. Bach
They get an A for Ambition and an F for Fruit.Oh I dunno
But we are to "be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves" - WHOA!
Dunno about a Mr. Cereal (just as well).
Yeah, it's not a church. It's a corporation.
The SDA church itself is now a large denomination that has become just what it originally reviled. It is now just another incorporated 501(c)(3) government licensed religious entity. The ELLEN G. WHITE ESTATE INCORPORATED, which is itself a government licensed non-profit corporation accruing tax free royalties from her writings, zealously defends her work and the efficacy of her "original" teachings. Thus, the institutionalization has reached full bloom and the once vibrant movement is now thoroughly set in its dogma and unwilling to hear a true word from the Lord. It's presently trying to raise $1,000,000 for 2026.
I believe all denominations are now barren from the Spirit of the Lord and support through attendance and $$$ should immediately cease. The Seventh Day Adventist church is no exception.
Speaking of which:
..."Amazing Facts with Doug Batchelor" on TBN Inc.
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...written and directed by a "Michael McCaffrey", digital creator."
Your right ... Parts of the official "SDA Conference" is very much criticized by many of us foundational, fundamental Ellen White and Adventist Pioneer believing Church members. "Parts", as in some officials of the "Adventist Official organization" are actually, saying we need to go along ( to get along) with this Worlds Ecumenical Movement.
Jesus says "to be of the World, but not IN the World", as in don't fraternize with the Enemy, these Satan deceived world religious organizations. We local SDA's here mostly Home Church, as God's Remnant Church will have to as persecution of God People, His Church becomes more apparent, as World event's become increasingly sever. Like as in catastrophic.
Those videos I recommended by Doug Batchelor are still excellent TRUTH... Batchelor has been criticized by the Conference for being, too out outspokenly critical of the Papacy, as has Conrad Vine and Walter Veith, all leading SDA pastor, standing up for Jesus and Truth, while the Conference has become more "Worldly".
Christ's Remnant Church;
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Jn 4:45 Do not think that I will accuse you before the Father. Your accuser is Moses, in whom you have put your hope.
Jn 4:46 If you had believed Moses, you would believe Me, because he wrote about Me.
Jn 4:47 But since you do not believe what he wrote, how will you believe what I say?”
Even as a child, I must've been about 5, I understood there was a 'higher' message within it. In the end, I escaped the monster by way of holding on to a single red balloon that grew and grew until it was bigger than me and lifted me off of the balcony that would've otherwise been only a 'dead end.' I tried to help my mother who was with me to escape also, offering her one little red balloon after another, which she accepted one after another, except that they only accumulated into a big bunch of little red balloons held in her hand, none of them growing any larger in the same way as the one that I had which carried me away from the monster. She was left on the balcony with all those little red balloons, doing nothing much impressive.
You see how I've never managed to shrug that dream off even 50 years later?
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How is this incorrect? The Scripture doesn’t teach this. Please do quote some verses.
What does this even mean? Why would anyone want to cancel the power of Him? Please do elaborate with ScriptureS.
What is your point here?
God’s word is perfect.
OF COURSE there would be "in house disputes." That's the curse of all humanistic organizations. But still, it's all taking place under the same wicked worldly structure!
Satan is a sneaky SOB, Rob7. We need every advantage we can muster; if we do not "overcome," then we will perish. You're obviously ambitious. But our natural tendency is to commiserate with other flesh, which only weakens our intended position on The Rock and the unique calling that God has placed on each one of us - INCLUDING YOU. There is only one Rob7, AND YOU'RE IT! Don't waste it! We gotta be making the best of what we have been commissioned by the King to do. And "group/corporate think" won't cut it. Another vid won't cut it. Joining a corp won't cut it. Following other men (or women) won't cut it; bringing in EGW can only result in less White. Can you envision a genuinely fruitful life that is not connected to a beast-licensed corporation?
The Lord didn't tell us to settle for a bible study in the basement of the brothel. He commanded us to build our own city on a hill.
Yep, as the SDA Inc. signed up to the beast's program and so is required to jump through whatever hoops the beast demands if the corp wants the benefit$. This is how the camel gets his nose into the tent.
Do you know the biblical meaning of a church (not a building, corp, or other dead thing)? It's the ekklesia, the body of Christ, the believers - and no corporate pretenders or bench warmers.
Try separating yourself from the "we" group-think. It will NOT be a good thing to spout that when one stands before the King.
If God can use an ass (Balaam's, Num. 22) to save someone, he can certainly use a Batchelor vid. But that's not the point. Why consume junk food when you can feast on the pure words of God? Satan knows that you are not a threat when your diet is depleted of essential nutrients.
...just more political maneuvering - each one trying to preserve his slice of the corporate pie.
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Wow, is there something wrong with dressing up a bit to worship our God and Savior?
No, but there is something amiss with being embarrassed if one has not "dressed up a bit." IOW, are we God pleasers, or man pleasers?
Also, cleanliness is good, but fashionable-ness is of the world.
Meanwhile, the corp's are preening for "Showtime!"
John 3:18
He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has
not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
...with dressing up a bit to worship...
I am talking about a full suit and the women in formal dress.
Not ..."dressing up a bit"...
That one church was the only church I have ever attended where every one, was wearing formal attire.
Your under the impression that when the scripture arrives (N.T.) then the partial is done away with.
1 Corinthians 13:9
For we know in part and we prophesy in part; but when the perfect comes, the partial will be done away.
1 Corinthians 13:12
For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now I know in part, but then I will know fully just
as I also have been fully known.
Paul says in his "perfect letter" to the Corinthians that when the perfect comes...
How can a perfect letter that Paul wrote be talking about a future event, when the perfect comes...
How can the perfect letter to the Corinthians tell the Corinthians to seek the greater gifts?
That is a paradox?
Your interpretation is logically unsound.
Ellen White was formerly a Methodist (the Methodist church was a splinter church of the Church of England).
King Henry VIII started the Church of England in the 1530s because he could not get a divorce.
Help me Lord.
Then Ellen White became a Millerite; a follower of the prophet William Miller.
The Methodist church evicted Ellen White from fellowship for Ellen's association with the Millerites.
The Methodist church among other churches regarded William Miller as a false prophet.
Alas, when William Miller's prophecy was proven false.
Individuals prior to and immediately surrounding Ellen G. White, notably Hiram Edson and other
Millerite leaders, pioneered the concept that Jesus moved to the heavenly sanctuary in 1844. They
developed this doctrine immediately after the "Great Disappointment" on October 22, 1844, to explain
why Jesus did not return.
Ellen White adopted this stance and with her husband started the SDA in 1863.