True, and an interesting comeback, as so much of SDA dogma cherry picks from among OT law.
Adventists, Ellen G. White, failed prophecies and scripture
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LOL! It's kabuki theatre without the finesse intended by the original performers.
For those who don't know, kabuki is a mix of dramatic performance with traditional dance. The drama is real and the dance is on the part of the SDA crowd who dance around the truth with 2 left feet
Well, I'm not calling it a ministry but you can if that is your understanding. I consider every one of these spirits as liars so.......
I've been in churches where there is no problem with it and have also seen demons acting out in people with the leadership having no clue as to what is going on, calling the rolling around and screaming the Holy Spirit. God help us.
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The internet is bulging with fake prophets and what have yous. Scripture speaks of 'teaching demons' and they are very busy.
I try to be neutral except when children are involved. As a child, I had some bad experiences. I was saved at 5 so I have alot to thank God for saving me from.
ROFL! Haven't heard that in awhile...
Yes, that's a good posture to adopt at the start, because one never knows "who is who" initially. ONLY through the blood of Jesus Christ and the assistance of the Holy Spirit can one begin to reveal the deception(s) and peel back the layers...
Some are onto it...
...and some (most) are not.
Full-on, over-the-top epidemic.
Interesting you say that. Children (and esp. abortions) just break me. Satan loves to defile innocence, and he plays it from both sides.
You got saved very young; were you fully cognizant of what that meant and has your life since been producing good fruit?
There is one church. All denominations are rejected by God. The problem with SDA is that they base salvation on a false doctrine. Now there may be SDA people in heaven, but not if they base their salvation on SDA doctrine. I've met born again Catholics. Why they stay in that cult is beyond me, but I could say the same about SDA also.
Tell me why Jesus needs to obey the sabbath? Do you really believe that there will be hours, days, weeks, months and years in heaven? God did not give me 10 Commandments. I'm not a Jew. God gave me Jesus and He is my righteousness, holiness, wisdom and sanctification. I won't need the law to tell me I must love God. In heaven we will love and worship God because it's who we are, not by compulsion. There will be no idols in heaven.
It was assembled from Methodist theology and a huge emphasis on the sabbath day.
I can understand why Catholics stay in the Catholic Church, that's easy Gideon300.
Catholics don't read their Bible rather they rely heavily on their Church tradition.
The printing press began in 1450 AD so almost no one had access to the scripture.
Most people could not even read until public education began.
This means that theology was the backbone of nearly all church organizations throughout history.
The SDA folk are different because they quote from the scripture and any SDA member who put's
a serious effort. Into understanding the N.T will eventually have issues with the SDA and leave.
Give me one good Biblical reason why spiritual gifts have ceased.
You are hilarious. You have no evidence to show that the perfect has come. You make a statement to that effect and expect people to believe you. No, the perfect has not come. If you think what we see now is perfection, you are deluded.
Catholics have had the Bible as long as anyone else. It's their choice not to study it. Catholicism has a lot in common with SDA, which seems odd since SDA opposes it so vehemently. They obviously don't like the competition.
SDA controls the same way Rome does, by fear. SDA have no assurance of salvation, same as RC teaching. SDA have "soul sleep", RC has purgatory; neither are Biblical. SDA has EG White, RC a pope. RC believes that they are the true church, which offends SDA because they believe that they are the true church.
SDA only quote from scripture selectively. They also quote EG White as if she was authoritative. RC has the pope, supposedly infallible on religious matters.
The SDA opposes every Christian denomination on earth.
You and every other church that meets on Sunday has the mark of the beast.
The mark is received through deliberate worship and pledge of allegiance to the Antichrist.
You worship the Antichrist just admit to it.
I cringe when on the internet at Christian churches pointing out the problems with other churches.
When their own theology, interpretation, is just as corrupt.
How can someone who spends years reading the N.T not understand Paul's letters.
There is something underneath this paradox that I do not understand.
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I’m hilarious?? I gave you one verse, this should be enough! Instead, you insult and criticize.
As I had already indicated:
The perfect is Jesus Christ who already came and established His church; the mystery has been revealed that was from the beginning. How much more perfect can you get??
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I’m hilarious?? I gave you one verse, this should be enough! Instead, you insult and criticize.
As I had already indicated:
The perfect is Jesus Christ who already came and established His church; the mystery has been revealed that was from the beginning. How much more perfect can you get??
Spiritual gifts, meaning prophecy; tongues; miraculous miracles like healing the deaf, dumb, mute, all matter of sickness, raising the
dead, sending out the possessed with just laying your hand on someone. All these things Jesus gave to the apostles, and some to the myriad of disciples.
Where do you see this today?? And don’t come back to me with we all have gifts. This I know! I’m specifying miraculous gifts.
Lord Jesus was revealed prior to the gifts of the Spirit. According to you, they were never of God because Jesus was perfect before those gifts were given. Jesus must have been perfect when He went to the cross, otherwise He could not have suffered for our sins.
Lord Jesus was revealed prior to the gifts of the Spirit. According to you, they were never of God because Jesus was perfect before those gifts were given. Jesus must have been perfect when He went to the cross, otherwise He could not have suffered for our sins.
I see such gifts operating in the church often. My wife has a spiritual gift of discerning of spirits. She also speaks in tongues. I prophesy from time to time. I've seen the gifts of the Spirit manifested countless times. I've been healed of two chronic aliments on the same day. The pastor had a word of knowledge about my condition. I'd told no one. He prayed for me and I was healed immediately. That was over 50 years ago. More recently, I suffered pancreatitis. My wife prayed for me. Even the doctor, an unbeliever, confessed that my wife's prayer for healing was answered.
Your doubt and unbelief robs you of God's blessing. Hopefully you will see the truth that you purport to defend.
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Again, you make WILD assumptions I never stated!! You’re not even reading correctly what I wrote.
Where on earth did I ever say that the gifts were not from God?? You need specs sunny!
That's a bit tricky as the Antichrist has yet to be revealed. I'm sealed with the Holy Spirit:
"And in Him, having heard and believed the word of truth—the gospel of your salvation—you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, who is the pledge of our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession, to the praise of His glory." Ephesians 1:13
So what did you mean in your post 707? If you are trying to confuse me, well done. You succeeded.
You say that the gifts have ceased, post 713. I'm telling you where we see gifts operating today. Do you accept that or do you stick to the idea that the gifts have ceased? You seem not to know what your own posts are saying.
SDA's follow nonsense. Last I checked you didn't need to attend Church on Sunday to buy or sell. You've been programmed by a Sabbath cult.