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UnoiAmarah said:
Retort all you choose, if you consider the First Cause argument nonsensical argument then ipso facto.

The principle of the First Cause holds that the effectual cause cannot be its own cause. I will let you figure out the first cause of God.
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You chose to pluck "evolution vs creationism" out of nowhere without the dignity to define either, I merely responded by pointing that out.
 
I was actually referring to the evolution of the species but most do not need to have the two concepts defined.
 
UnoiAmarah said:
I was actually referring to the evolution of the species but most do not need to have the two concepts defined.
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"Evolution of the species" is VARIATION of the species. There's an evolution of technology from low, simple form to high, complex form, but there's no such evolution in species, that's the same lie from Satan - "you shall be like God".

You know, there's a term, "evolutionary mismatch", which refers to the mismatch of human physiology and modern society. We're living in a high tech, interconnected world, yet our physicality and mentality are still on the level of caveman for hunting and gathering. If that's true, then ironically, this "mismatch" has debunked the evolution theory, since we haven't "evolved" at all to match the modern society.
 
Lovette said:
The world wouldn't have sunken into such a disaster of total disarray if the officials had followed God's quarantine protocols by identifying the symptomatic ones and isolating them only, while leaving the healthy population alone. Separation the sick from the healthy, the dead from the living, the contaminated from the clean are not merely religious laws, even though nearly everyone views them in that way, they are useful guidelines in practice that had actually saved lives, believe it or not, 19th century physicians who followed these rules by merely washing their hands and sanitize their wards had far lower patient mortality rate then those who didn't.
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Well, the Jews would be saved from the world of sinners and spiritual sickness if they would believe the Levitical laws were fulfilled by Jesus and accept Him as Messiah/the Lord incarnate.
 
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UnoiAmarah said:
That's kewl, but consider what is written in the book of Job,

Job said
All the while my breath is in me, and the spirit of God is in my nostrils; Job 27:3

Elihu said
The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life .Job 33:4

So what did the LORD say to Job friends.

Job shall pray for you: for him will I accept: lest I deal with you after your folly, in that ye have not spoken of me the thing which is right, like my servant Job. Job 42:8
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I believe that all temporal earthly life comes from the 4 living beings before the throne, and eternal spiritual life comes from the 7 holy spirits before the throne. They are both spirits of God
 
Lovette said:
How would you know whether the Holy Spirit is in your heart when you're drowned in endless noises in the absurd modern life?
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It's the spirit of truth, and it witnesses in the heart to what is true in order to make one able to distinguish the truth from all of the noise.
 
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Lovette said:
"Evolution of the species" is VARIATION of the species. There's an evolution of technology from low, simple form to high, complex form, but there's no such evolution in species, that's the same lie from Satan - "you shall be like God".
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So it your understanding that all mankind on earth originated from a single set of progenitors?
Lovette said:
You know, there's a term, "evolutionary mismatch", which refers to the mismatch of human physiology and modern society. We're living in a high tech, interconnected world, yet our physicality and mentality are still on the level of caveman for hunting and gathering. If that's true, then ironically, this "mismatch" has debunked the evolution theory, since we haven't "evolved" at all to match the modern society.
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No I haven't heard of the term, or if I did, I don't remember. I am not sure I would say that would debunk the evolutionary process since evolving isn't linear, but can be regressive meaning more complex life forms can become simpler due to the loss of traits, behaviors over time.
 
GWH said:
Well, the Jews would be saved from the world of sinners and spiritual sickness if they would believe the Levitical laws were fulfilled by Jesus and accept Him as Messiah/the Lord incarnate.
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That's just antisemetic.
 
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UnoiAmarah said:
So it your understanding that all mankind on earth originated from a single set of progenitors?
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Don't ask me, read Gen. 1-2.
UnoiAmarah said:
No I haven't heard of the term, or if I did, I don't remember. I am not sure I would say that would debunk the evolutionary process since evolving isn't linear, but can be regressive meaning more complex life forms can become simpler due to the loss of traits, behaviors over time.
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Then isn't that more like DEvolution? It's not my imagination that we've grown weaker and dumber, less vitality, less concentration, less testosterone, is it?
 
ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
It's the spirit of truth, and it witnesses in the heart to what is true in order to make one able to distinguish the truth from all of the noise.
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Then hereby witness this truth, that of all the places you could go, of all the activities you could engage in, you and I are brought here, avidly discussing the "spirit of truth", amid all the noises, all the pop ups, all the notifications, all the news flashes from everywhere else on the internet.
 
ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
I believe that all temporal earthly life comes from the 4 living beings before the throne, and eternal spiritual life comes from the 7 holy spirits before the throne. They are both spirits of God
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Who are the 4? the Father, Son and two witnesses*? Not poking fun, just curious how life comes from 4 beings since I hold that all life originated from the eternal One, never hurts to listen to what inspires others.

Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the LORD of the whole earth.Zech 4:14*

The 7 spirits of God, as in the seven bands of refracted white light that appear when it is refracted. Ok, maybe poking a little bit.
 
UnoiAmarah said:
I was referring to two biological progenitors? Not sure if you mean Genesis 1:2, which I would say was very astute; or whether you were referring to Genesis chapters 1 & 2.
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Again, read Gen. 1 and Gen. 2. Or you can jump to Gen. 9, that was a new beginning.
 
UnoiAmarah said:
Who are the 4? the Father, Son and two witnesses*? Not poking fun, just curious how life comes from 4 beings since I hold that all life originated from the eternal One, never hurts to listen to what inspires others.

Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the LORD of the whole earth.Zech 4:14*

The 7 spirits of God, as in the seven bands of refracted white light that appear when it is refracted. Ok, maybe poking a little bit.
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No, the 4 living beings mentioned in Revelation that cry holy, holy, holy. It's either Ezekiel or Isaiah that describes a spirit emanating from them like lightning, that I am convinced is the spirit that animates life in the natural world.
 
Lovette said:
Then hereby witness this truth, that of all the places you could go, of all the activities you could engage in, you and I are brought here, avidly discussing the "spirit of truth", amid all the noises, all the pop ups, all the notifications, all the news flashes from everywhere else on the internet.
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Are you overwhelmed? The spirit teaches me to just filter it out and ignore it.
 
ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
No, the 4 living beings mentioned in Revelation that cry holy, holy, holy. It's either Ezekiel or Isaiah that describes a spirit emanating from them like lightning, that I am convinced is the spirit that animates life in the natural world.
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And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come. Rev 4:8
 
UnoiAmarah said:
And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come. Rev 4:8
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Beast is a weird translation. It means a living being

G2226 ζῶον zoon (zō'-on) n.
a live thing, i.e. an animal.
 
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