Yet no person who says they disagree dare offer a cogent or effective rebuttal.
Why? Because I am undoubtedly right, and surely know exactly what I am talking about.
And they are not and do not.
Sorry fake sorry.
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Why? Because I am undoubtedly right, and surely know exactly what I am talking about.
And they are not and do not.
Sorry fake sorry.
Rubio sat down for a good exclusive interview yesterday which clips are being drawn from. The full itnerview isn't up yet but here's I guess a key clip for the oriiginal debate/plotline of the actual you know issue with Iran. I will try to get the full itnerview when it comes out its pretty good Rubio is looking strong again indeed his intelligence and view of Iran is key and works well with Hegseth's more jockish but actually brilliant in a football-iq sense for filling the gaps where diplomacy fails. We have a solid team still, great minds, big muscles, lots of heart and praise Jesus.
Granted, doctrines can be 100's of hours or more......But you sir have given a good start on many.....And if we wanted the truth, we would investigate and be Bereans.
Your "detractors" offer NOTHING. Not even a crumb.
But "we' can offer a good description of his work - end time skatology
How did Paul respond to the bogus eschatology snake oil proffered by Hymenaeus and Philetus?
Did Paul say "I'm cool bro you do you?"
No. He warned, marked them out and reaffirmed the correct doctrine.
What would you have me do in a similar situation?
Don't know if you know but some preterists actually believe Matthew 24:14 was fulfilled already because of what Paul writes in Colossians: "If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;""PLEASE get a grip on actual Biblical reality.
You are drifting aimlessly in some kind of religious fantasy of your own making.
And NO, Christians do not want any of this. Our earnest desire is for the redemption.
Rom 8:22
For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
Rom 8:23
And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
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“But when you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be troubled; for such things must happen, but the end is not yet.
Mat 24:6
And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
Mat 24:7
For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
Mat 24:8
All these are the beginning of sorrows.
Mat 24:9
Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
Mat 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; (IN PROCESS TO THIS PRESENT DAY) and then shall the end come.
Mat 24:21
For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Now ask them if the end has already come, consistent full preterist heretics will say yes. The inconsistent partial-preterists will say yeah kind of, the old covenant has ended.
It is a really far fetched position
Don't know if you know but some preterists actually believe Matthew 24:14 was fulfilled already because of what Paul writes in Colossians: "If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;""
Now ask them if the end has already come, consistent full preterist heretics will say yes. The inconsistent partial-preterists will say yeah kind of, the old covenant has ended.
It is a really far fetched position
That may be due to a translation issue.
First, it's not every creature; animals don't have the gospel proclaimed to them; so the correct translation is all creation.
Second, whether that verb in Colosians is past tense is debatable. This translates it as being proclaimed in all creation, which matches Matthew 24:14. "All creation" may just be a figure of speech for "everywhere"
Now ask them if the end has already come, consistent full preterist heretics will say yes. The inconsistent partial-preterists will say yeah kind of, the old covenant has ended.
It is a really far fetched position
I wouldn't call full preterists heretics unless it causes them to go off the rails of the faith of Christ. If a person lives a godly life, eschatology is irrelevant. What good has eschatology done for anyone since 70AD? The harm that an obsessive fixation on the end of the world has done is incalculable
The problem with interpreting Colossians 1:23 as the fulfillment of Matthew 24:14 are the words "if you continue" and "I was made a minister". The past tense act of preaching to every creature under heaven was when Jesus was crucified, dead, buried and raised from the dead. That event was a declaration of the gospel of the resurrection life conquering death for all of creation. But if Matthew 24:14 was fulfilled on the day of the resurrection why do we need to "continue" and why was Paul "Made a minister"? One reason would be what it says in Matthew, we have been made witnesses of this. Another reason would be what it says in Mark, the gospel must be published in all nations. A third reason would be what it says in Luke, the ministers of the gospel must go out to all the nations.Don't know if you know but some preterists actually believe Matthew 24:14 was fulfilled already because of what Paul writes in Colossians: "If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;""
Now ask them if the end has already come, consistent full preterist heretics will say yes. The inconsistent partial-preterists will say yeah kind of, the old covenant has ended.
It is a really far fetched position
Jesus was a sin offering and a peace offering from man to God. This offering was accepted, we know that because He rose from the dead. That is good news to all of creation, that is the gospel that was preached to all creation. That is the gospel that Paul was made a minister of and that is what we are witnesses of.
They are. Look:
2 Tim 2:18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
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All past tense:
-“So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. But I say, have they not heard? Yes indeed: “Their sound has gone out to all the earth, and their words to the ends of the world.””
Romans 10:17-18 NKJV
-“because of the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, of which you heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel, which has come to you, as it has also in all the world, and is bringing forth fruit, as it is also among you since the day you heard and knew the grace of God in truth;”
Colossians 1:5-6 NKJV
-“So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. But I say, have they not heard? Yes indeed: “Their sound has gone out to all the earth, and their words to the ends of the world.””
Romans 10:17-18 NKJV
-“because of the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, of which you heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel, which has come to you, as it has also in all the world, and is bringing forth fruit, as it is also among you since the day you heard and knew the grace of God in truth;”
Colossians 1:5-6 NKJV
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I don't think full preterists believe the resurrection has past. I believe Paul was referring to gnostics who said the resurrection wasn't physical, but spiritual, which had already occurred at the new birth.
NO its the truth. Dispensationalism teaches the pre-trib rapture, two peoples of God, only Paul's epistles are to the church. I don't believe those things.
Why don't you tell me how what I said was incorrect? There IS an arab party in Israel, they are growing in numbers. So much for that genocide. That word is like the word "racist", completely overused
Thats the definition of full preterism, that the resurrection already occured at 70AD. Partial-preterists believe the resurrection is still future and we are in the millennium now
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