If Jesus returns in 2030

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Lovette said:
Your opinion is erroneous, these three prophecies are the same, the bible is consistent.
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I agree that the Bible is consistent. But these prophesies clearly have different beginnings and ends, and yet all were fulfilled as written, according to my interpretation and applying Jewish rules in reckoning time.

When, in your opinion, was Jesus' temple/body destroyed? And when, in your opinion, was Jesus buried? Did they happen at exactly the the same time?
 
PaulThomson said:
I agree that the Bible is consistent. But these prophesies clearly have different beginnings and ends, and yet all were fulfilled as written, according to my interpretation and applying Jewish rules in reckoning time.

When, in your opinion, was Jesus' temple/body destroyed? And when, in your opinion, was Jesus buried? Did they happen at exactly the the same time?
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Nissan 10, Sunday, Lamb Selection day, triumphant entry; 14, Thursday, Passover, crucifixion and burial; 15, Friday, Preparation Day, Feast of Unleavened Bread; 16, Saturday, regular Sabbath; 17, Sunday, Feast of the First Fruit.
 
Lovette said:
Nissan 10, Sunday, Lamb Selection day, triumphant entry; 14, Thursday, Passover, crucifixion and burial; 15, Friday, Preparation Day, Feast of Unleavened Bread; 16, Saturday, regular Sabbath; 17, Sunday, Feast of the First Fruit.
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Could you answer my question please? When, in your opinion, was Jesus' temple/body destroyed? And when, in your opinion, was Jesus buried? Did they happen at exactly the the same time?
 
Lovette said:
No, I'm the one who's arguing for a Thursday crucifixion. Wednesday doesn't work because it'd be four nights from Wednesday evening to Sunday morning.
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Why would Christ be resurrected to eternal life on a day not set aside as HOLY from Creation?
was He resurrected in darkness? as the tomb was empty before sunrise?

He was in the tomb just as the sun set on Wednesday afternoon and was resurrection as the sun was setting on our Saturday afternoon,
Christ was resurrected on the Day HE made Holy for Holy purposes His Sabbath.
After exactly 3 days and 3 nights --72 hours.
 
memberofthebride said:
Why would Christ be resurrected to eternal life on a day not set aside as HOLY from Creation?
was He resurrected in darkness? as the tomb was empty before sunrise?

He was in the tomb just as the sun set on Wednesday afternoon and was resurrection as the sun was setting on our Saturday afternoon,
Christ was resurrected on the Day HE made Holy for Holy purposes His Sabbath.
After exactly 3 days and 3 nights --72 hours.
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That’s a claim. That’s an opinion. But where is the evidence for that opinion being biblical? Where does the Bible say the resurrection (i.e. the beginning of the second creation), must be on the first creation’s holiest day? A new covenant and a new creation have been instigated where all days are holy. Should we not be open to there being a number of disconnects from the old covenant and creation, which are now obsolete and passing away?
 
PaulThomson said:
That’s a claim. That’s an opinion. But where is the evidence for that opinion being biblical? Where does the Bible say the resurrection (i.e. the beginning of the second creation), must be on the first creation’s holiest day? A new covenant and a new creation have been instigated where all days are holy. Should we not be open to there being a number of disconnects from the old covenant and creation, which are now obsolete and passing away
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lets look at this from a calendar perspective, actually from God's calendar.

Passover takes place on the afternoon of the 14th day of God's first month

6 And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening.

just to prove it was the first month of God's year: 2This month [shall be] unto you the beginning of months: it [shall be] the first month of the year to you.

The catholic church changed Passover to easter,
God's Passover lands on different days of the week every year.
the Catholic's also ended God's command for Passover on the 14th by setting "easter" not passover, on Sunday so they could have a Friday day of death and a sunday morning resurrection.

Passover on the 14th of the First month does sometime fall on our Friday so lets see how 3 days and 3 nights works - each 12 hours. 6 X 12 = 72 hours

Friday as the sun was setting Christ was placed in the tomb, day (light) was ending so no Friday day, unless you want to count a few minutes as a 12 hour day.

Remember a God day -the light- ends at sundown so they wanted to put Christ in the tomb before the sun set and the High Sabbath began.

Friday night -- 1 night 6 PM to 6AM
Saturday day- 1 day 6AM to 6PM

Saturday night - 2nd night 6PM to 6AM
Sunday day - 2nd day 6AM to 6 PM

Sunday night - 3rd night 6PM to 6AM
Monday day - 3rd day 6AM to 6PM

1/14/31 AD Passover was on Wednesday, Sabbath resurrection

1/14/29 AD on a Sabbath, 7th day
1/14/30AD on a Wednesday
1/14/31AD on a Wednesday
1/14/32AD on a Monday
1/14/33AD on a Friday: which would cause a Monday afternoon around 6 PM resurrection

either we trust what Christ stated would be the only sign HE is the Son of God or we trust Rome.
 
memberofthebride said:
Why would Christ be resurrected to eternal life on a day not set aside as HOLY from Creation?
was He resurrected in darkness? as the tomb was empty before sunrise?

He was in the tomb just as the sun set on Wednesday afternoon and was resurrection as the sun was setting on our Saturday afternoon,
Christ was resurrected on the Day HE made Holy for Holy purposes His Sabbath.
After exactly 3 days and 3 nights --72 hours.
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Jesus was the first fruit, his resurrection fulfilled the Feast of First Fruit, which is Sunday. Saturday was a day of rest.
 
Lovette said:
Jesus was the first fruit, his resurrection fulfilled the Feast of First Fruit, which is Sunday. Saturday was a day of rest.
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wow, I never heard that one.

in a post above I showed from 29AD to 33AD a sunday resurrection is not possible.

Passover has to be on a Thursday for a Sunday resurrection, and I looked at years in both direction from 31AD and no Thursday Passover

Pentecost is the Day the Body of Christ began to be chosen, HIS Wife. there was no "church" until 50 days after Christ was resurrected on the Sabbath

Pentecost is determined by counting 49 days after the 7th Day Sabbath that occurs during the 7 days of Unleavened Bread.
in 31AD 49 days after Christ was resurrected on the 7th Day Sabbath - the 50th day is Pentecost which is a Sunday.

Sunday (first day of a week) to a Sunday is 50 days, 50 days after His resurrection on the Sabbath

Christ is the first of the first fruits and the body of Christ are the First Fruits
Over the last 2000 years only the Wife of Christ is being chosen.

From many angles a sunday resurrection become very unlikely, if not impossible

Every wonder why Rome changed Passover on the 14th, to easter on a sunday?

and all but a handful of churches follow Rome.
 
Christ was resurrected on firstfruits. If you can't see that you miss the combined message of the 1st 3 feasts: Passover lamb slain, laid in the grave for 3 days during Unleavened Bread (the bread of affliction) and raised from the dead on Firstfruits.
 
ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
Christ was resurrected on firstfruits. If you can't see that you miss the combined message of the 1st 3 feasts: Passover lamb slain, laid in the grave for 3 days during Unleavened Bread (the bread of affliction) and raised from the dead on Firstfruits.
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I have been keep God's Holy Feasts and His Sabbath since 1969, I am very familiar with Gods' Feasts. I attend every year.

What you are referring to is the wave sheaf which is done on the day following the 7th Day Sabbath within the 7 day Feast of Unleavened bread.

the wave sheaf represents Jesus Christ and on the first day of the week He rose to be accepted by the Father.

Before harvest it must be waved before God, before any harvesting can be done -- it is not the Feast of First Fruits as that is the another name for the Feast of Pentecost, which means count 50.

Christ was the First of the first fruits resurrected to eternal life and 120 on Pentecost began the harvest of God's first fruits which is to be the Bride of Christ.

from the web:

""When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest…

” Now this sheaf of the firstfruits was called “the premiere sheaf.” It was a special barley sheaf that was cut,

and it was cut at the end of the Sabbath during the Feast of Unleavened Bread to be waved on the first day of the week during the Feast of Unleavened Bread."

This also shows Christ was raised from death as the 7th Day Sabbath ended.
 
memberofthebride said:
Before harvest it must be waved before God, before any harvesting can be done -- it is not the Feast of First Fruits as that is the another name for the Feast of Pentecost, which means count 50.
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They're both firstfruit. The wave sheaf was for the barley harvest and the wave loaves at Pentecost were for the wheat harvest. The wave sheaf was without leaven (evil) , whereas the wave loaves were baked with leaven, signifying the body of Christ. Pentecost is called the festival of Weeks, not firstfruit
 
ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
They're both firstfruit. The wave sheaf was for the barley harvest and the wave loaves at Pentecost were for the wheat harvest. The wave sheaf was without leaven (evil) , whereas the wave loaves were baked with leaven, signifying the body of Christ. Pentecost is called the festival of Weeks, not firstfruit
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first, do you understand everything else, why Christ was resurrected on the Sabbath, not sunday?

the reason Pentecost can be called first fruits, it is The DAY, the calling of God's first fruits began. I agree with what you said about both wave sheafs

After the day John the Baptist died the only person on earth with the Father's spirit was Christ and it was not until the Feast of Pentecost that the Father poured out His Spirit on the 120 first fruits. and yes the 120 still had leavening in them.
 
memberofthebride said:
first, do you understand everything else, why Christ was resurrected on the Sabbath, not sunday?

the reason Pentecost can be called first fruits, it is The DAY, the calling of God's first fruits began. I agree with what you said about both wave sheafs

After the day John the Baptist died the only person on earth with the Father's spirit was Christ and it was not until the Feast of Pentecost that the Father poured out His Spirit on the 120 first fruits. and yes the 120 still had leavening in them.
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I believe he was resurrected on the 1st day of the week. A new beginning of a new creation
 
ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
I believe he was resurrected on the 1st day of the week. A new beginning of a new creation
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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
I believe he was resurrected on the 1st day of the week. A new beginning of a new creation
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1/14/29 AD on a Sabbath, 7th day
1/14/30AD on a Wednesday
1/14/31AD on a Wednesday
1/14/32AD on a Monday
1/14/33AD on a Friday: which would cause a Monday afternoon around 6 PM resurrection

for 3 days and 3 nights to occur, Christ would have to died before sundown on a Thursday and that would mean He was resurrected at sundown on Sunday, not sunrise.

I have shown when Passover occurred over a 5 year period, none on a Thursday

The key to the resurrection is the day of the week when Passover took place.

Everyone can believe what ever they want -- proving is a different story.

I trust what I can prove from the Word, which is Truth.
 
memberofthebride said:
1/14/29 AD on a Sabbath, 7th day
1/14/30AD on a Wednesday
1/14/31AD on a Wednesday
1/14/32AD on a Monday
1/14/33AD on a Friday: which would cause a Monday afternoon around 6 PM resurrection

for 3 days and 3 nights to occur, Christ would have to died before sundown on a Thursday and that would mean He was resurrected at sundown on Sunday, not sunrise.

I have shown when Passover occurred over a 5 year period, none on a Thursday

The key to the resurrection is the day of the week when Passover took place.

Everyone can believe what ever they want -- proving is a different story.

I trust what I can prove from the Word, which is Truth.
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It doesn't really matter to me.
 
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memberofthebride said:
that is what I am finding,, people have their beliefs and nothing else matters,

I believe that plays into the Time of the End,,
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It's not a question of belief, it's simply not an important matter to me. I have so many other things to be concerned with. If it's your thing, then enjoy.
 
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