The "Secret Rapture" is a False Doctrine.

[ATG]

The Lord reaps His people to Himself in the air, by sending His angels to gather them together to meet Him there."""
1) that is rev14:14.
2) you posted a verse where Jesus HIMSELF GATHERS.
Then you tell me Jesus sends angels to gather.

Scripture tells us, that it is the Lord doing the work, when His servants obey Him:

Jhn 14:10
Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

Gal 2:20
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

You send your neighbor to get your dog from the vet.

Men are not the Lord Jesus sending His servants to do His will.

Psssst...you did nothing to participate, and are 100% isolated from any participation.

Even among men, your delusion is foolish. The commander participates in the soldier's work, by commanding work that they soldier would not do otherwise. Nor does the sender of the messenger, have no part in the message being delivered.

We see here an example of your blind reasoning in practical affairs, that you would not normally do, if not to justify a lie.

Once anyone begins to refuse correction of Scripture, and forcibly argues against the truth of God, then their own practical reasoning will also fail:

Mat 6:23
But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

 

[ATG]

The analogy is the groom picks up the bride AFTER SHE LEAVES HER HOUSE.
Your doctrine claims she goes BACK TO HER HOUSE WITH THE GROOM.

Psa 24:1
The earth is the LORD'S, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein.

You may think you own the earth as your own house, but that's the carnal mind of the godless.

 

[ATG]

The postrib rapture doctrine has the gathering of mat 24 "one taken, one left, before the flood" ,as a "wicked taken, before the flood", ...and
That is just one example, of the many bizarre impossibilities of a postrib rapture theory.

That is one example of many false interpretations for personal prophecy, that I've never heard of before. There is no rapture of the wicked, but only wrath.

The righteous are taken to the Lord before His wrath on earth, and the wicked are left on earth for the flood. Even as Noah was taken from the wicked, by the flood upon the earth.

 

[tablet123]

2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

The saints will not be gathered unto Christ until the man of sin claims to be God and savior.

Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Dan 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

The beast makes war against the saints for 3.5 years and then all things are finished.

Which then comes the end when the Son will deliver the kingdom and then put down all power rule and authority.

There is no resurrection of the saints before this.

Which then the wrath of God will be poured upon the heathen after the saints are caught up.

Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

Rev 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

Isa 13:9 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.
Isa 13:10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.
Isa 13:11 And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.

When Jesus comes back the earth will know and wail for they realize that they are the losers with no chance at salvation.

Which it does not have to be hidden for the mystery of God is finished which the world will know God then.

After the resurrection happens it will start the day of the LORD starting with the wrath of God and ending at the end of the millennial reign.

 

[Psalm1]

2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

The saints will not be gathered unto Christ until the man of sin claims to be God and savior.

Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Dan 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

The beast makes war against the saints for 3.5 years and then all things are finished.

Which then comes the end when the Son will deliver the kingdom and then put down all power rule and authority.

There is no resurrection of the saints before this.

Which then the wrath of God will be poured upon the heathen after the saints are caught up.

Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

Rev 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

Isa 13:9 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.
Isa 13:10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.
Isa 13:11 And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.

When Jesus comes back the earth will know and wail for they realize that they are the losers with no chance at salvation.

Which it does not have to be hidden for the mystery of God is finished which the world will know God then.

After the resurrection happens it will start the day of the LORD starting with the wrath of God and ending at the end of the millennial reign.

Nope.
1) Rev 14 is tge gathering of the Jews BY JESUS, and that gathering is mid trib immediately before the wrath.
Rev 19 is the second coming on white horses and it is IMMEDIATELY BEFORE THE MIL.

The seven yr timeline is from Daniel.
After 3.5 years the AC desecrates the temple.
There can be no second coming at the 3.5 yr mark.
You failed to factor in key components

 

[ATG]

The saints will not be gathered unto Christ until the man of sin claims to be God and savior.

True. Paul begins with speaking of our gathering unto Him, that therefore has yet to happen. The lie is that the Lord is come, and the rapture is done.

With the Lord's return, our gathering to Him in the air, then that man of sin will be revealed for who he is on earth: The last great false christ and apostle on earth:

2Th 2:7
For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

Before the Lord returns, the last great AC will already be seductively working against the saints of God on earth. But with their catching away, that man of sin will no longer hide his own self-deification, and will openly proclaim himself Christ on earth.

The mystery of iniquity is seductive proselytizing first, and then when all the faithful are out of the way, the false leader no longer pretends to honest ministry. We've seen this cycle many times, where the cult leader must appear honest in the beginning, in order to solidify his following and come out as Christ Himself.

The first such false ac/apostle mentioned in the Bible is Diotrephes in 3 John. He first secretly seduces Christians to his own leadership, and then comes out in due time openly against Jesus Christ's apostles themselves:

3Jo 1:9
I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not. Wherefore, if I come, I will remember his deeds which he doeth, prating against us with malicious words: and not content therewith, neither doth he himself receive the brethren, and forbiddeth them that would, and casteth them out of the church.

The beast makes war against the saints for 3.5 years and then all things are finished. Which then comes the end when the Son will deliver the kingdom and then put down all power rule and authority.

There is no resurrection of the saints before this.

Exactly, and so no rapture beforehand. Paul was dealing with people saying the resurrection is already come, who were also saying the Lord is already come again:

2Ti 2:18
Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
This rebuke applies to those who preach a secret rapture, and a secret first resurrection. It comes in the form of a 'spiritual' resurrection of the soul, that remains in heaven forever, while the body is still alive on earth.

 

[ATG]

Which then the wrath of God will be poured upon the heathen after the saints are caught up.

True again. The rapture is post-tribulation and persecution by the beast upon the saints, followed by pre-tribulation and wrath of the Lamb upon the beast's world religion and kingdom.

When Jesus comes back the earth will know and wail for they realize that they are the losers with no chance at salvation.

All on earth will certainly see Him come, as well as the gathering of resurrected saints to Him in the air.

However, it's not so sure that none of the unbelievers on earth can convert during the Lord's wrath:

Rev 14:1
And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

Rev 14:6
And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come.

Rev 14:12
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

Even at the rapture of the church to meet the Lamb Jesus Christ, with the last hour of judgment and wrath upon the earth, Jesus' gospel is still being preached by an angel to all the earth: To repent and give glory to God the Lamb. Blessing is promised to them that do repent for Jesus' sake, even as today that die in Christ.

The Lord's gospel is not preached in vain, as though none can answer His call to repentance. And, as seen many times with the disobedient nation of Judah and Israel, the Lord's longsuffering is also during times of His vengeance.

Eze 33:11
Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

Isa 55:7
Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

Isa 55:11
So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

2Pe 3:15
And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

And so, inhabitants of the earth that do repent, will not have part in the first resurrection of the church at Jesus' coming, but will rise again with rest of the dead at the end of His thousand year reign on earth.

Which it does not have to be hidden for the mystery of God is finished which the world will know God then.

Exactly. They will all see Him coming in glory from east to west. Including the armies gathering to war against the Lamb and His saints.

The beast's armies will be as hardened in wickedness, as Pharaoh and his chariots were, who foolishly went down to the dry Red Sea bed after the Israelites, with all the waves standing about them...

Even as the waves came down upon the wicked Egyptians chasing the people of God, so also will the Lamb and His saints come down upon the wicked making war with them.

After the resurrection happens it will start the day of the LORD starting with the wrath of God and ending at the end of the millennial reign.

Well said. The day of the Lord coming a second time to reign on the earth, is indeed for a thousand years, even as that thousand years shall be as one day:

2Pe 3:8
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

The Lord's millennium will be for a thousand years, and the quality of His reign will be the same in the end as in day one...

Mal 3:6
For I am the LORD, I change not:

Hebrews{13:8}
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

 

[Esteban37]

1 Thessalonians 4:18 - Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

Not sure how comforting it is knowing you are going through the "great" tribulation.

 

[BBerean]

Didn't Christ already return?
He was dead in the grave, Seen as risen by over 500 witnesses, per 1 Cor 15, per each disciple as well.
He went to the grave willingly to reconcile us all to Father, to be given new life presently and forever from God through Son that is risen. Where this new is given by God Father through Son for us all. At least me, not denying God even whenever and have been in adversities also. Can we each go through it all and not deny God along the way? We all can, yet will we, whenever in troubles also? Job did, then Jesus to death first for us all willingly to be given new life presently now from Father,, in God's Spirit and Truth for anyone to believe God, Stand in belief, no matter what, can you, will I, will you? Col, 1:21-23
Is there more to do? Or is it done as said by Son, per John 19:30? Does what John predict John 1:29 "behold the Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world" happen or not? Is that Done from Father's sight or not?
Break on through to God's Side in the risen Son for you too. John 4:23-24, under Law completed in Son. Done once for us all Hebrews 10:10 1 John 2:1-27

God did it, I stand in belief to God over it all. God Won through Son done once for us all to believe and be new in love and mercy too, you decide, I have.
Psalm 100:4 103:12, given the new Ezekiel 36:26


Mark 1:27
And they were all amazed, insomuch that they questioned among themselves, saying, What thing is this? what new doctrine is this? for with authority commandeth he even the unclean spirits, and they do obey him.
John 13:34
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
Ephesians 2:15
having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
1 John 2:7
Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.
1 John 2:8
Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth.

Believe, God, receive new from God and be new by God, thank you God lo ve to all, no more a few wow woe is me Isaiah 6:1-7

Time to see it and be new in it, no more self in the way


Authorized (King James) Version

Phil 3:1-4

3 Finally, my brethren, rejoice in the Lord. To write the same things to you, to me indeed is not grievous, but for you it is safe. 2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision. 3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh. 4 Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:

Acts 1 v 10,11

 

[Psalm1]

True. Paul begins with speaking of our gathering unto Him, that therefore has yet to happen. The lie is that the Lord is come, and the rapture is done.

With the Lord's return, our gathering to Him in the air, then that man of sin will be revealed for who he is on earth: The last great false christ and apostle on earth:

2Th 2:7
For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

Before the Lord returns, the last great AC will already be seductively working against the saints of God on earth. But with their catching away, that man of sin will no longer hide his own self-deification, and will openly proclaim himself Christ on earth.

The mystery of iniquity is seductive proselytizing first, and then when all the faithful are out of the way, the false leader no longer pretends to honest ministry. We've seen this cycle many times, where the cult leader must appear honest in the beginning, in order to solidify his following and come out as Christ Himself.

The first such false ac/apostle mentioned in the Bible is Diotrephes in 3 John. He first secretly seduces Christians to his own leadership, and then comes out in due time openly against Jesus Christ's apostles themselves:

3Jo 1:9
I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not. Wherefore, if I come, I will remember his deeds which he doeth, prating against us with malicious words: and not content therewith, neither doth he himself receive the brethren, and forbiddeth them that would, and casteth them out of the church.


Exactly, and so no rapture beforehand. Paul was dealing with people saying the resurrection is already come, who were also saying the Lord is already come again:

2Ti 2:18
Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
This rebuke applies to those who preach a secret rapture, and a secret first resurrection. It comes in the form of a 'spiritual' resurrection of the soul, that remains in heaven forever, while the body is still alive on earth.

The martyrs in heaven FROM THE TRIB are there BEFORE the AC desecrates the temple.
The AC arrives as a messiah ( fake Jesus) conquorer and a Covent ( a bow) in his hand.
That also is way before he desecrates the temple.

So that verse about the AC "REVEALED" is way way way before any place you are placing it.
Way way off.

The ac is "revealed" RIGHT BEFORE THE RAPTURE.
...Falling away
....AC revealed
....Rapture.
So plain and simple.

We already have the great falling away.
And the AC could be revealed before he even arrives on the white horse
So the Rapture is imminent.

 

[Psalm1]

1 Thessalonians 4:18 - Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

Not sure how comforting it is knowing you are going through the "great" tribulation.

Ask them to post a verse pointing to the supposed postrib rapture.

Then wait.....and wait.....and wait.

 

[dkontner]

2 Thessalonians 2
King James Version
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

 

[Psalm1]

2 Thessalonians 2
King James Version
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Amen I am also a pretribber

 

[McShawn]

It’s good to know I won’t be leaving my clothes behind in a neatly folded stack.

 

[McShawn]

It’s good to know I won’t be leaving my clothes behind in a neatly folded stack.

That always bothered me. If on a plane the captain was a believer, the clothes wouldn’t stay like that for long.

 

[ThunderPen]

interesting indeed. Never heard it

Revelation 11:11-12 is about the two prophets literally. We must note the context of Revelation 11:10 and Revelation 11:13.
The two prophets are literal, I believe their arrival is soon, the evil doers plan to mask and muddy their arrival with the notions of extraterrestrials, "time travelers", and other twistings of the truth. And ultimately the evil doers hope that WW3 and the coverage of news about it will overshadow the arrival of the two prophets. The "rapture" also is a weapon against the two prophets, the evil doers hope to kill most everyone that would be able to see the two prophets for what they really are, they hope to kill millions at once, with special nano technology, and label it as the so called " rapture".

Those that remain they hope to have believe that an Islamic tyrant is the anti Christ, and they hope those believing such will be willing to die by that tyrant, believing he is the anti Christ, they will believe they are dying as martyrs and end up in heaven.
( And well, they will ) And therefore line up to be beheaded. The guiltounes and coffins are already ready.


There is only 1 return of Christ. Paul's foundation is Christ. We can conclude that the dead rise first then the alive from what Christ said, and we can see how Paul concluded such, with scripture.
Matthew 24:31 "from the four winds"
Ezekiel 37:9-10 "from the four winds"
Ezekiel is certainly about the dead rising, being a pharasee Paul would have believed that Ezekiel 37:1-12 is about actual resurrection. We can see so in Acts 23:5-8 together with Acts 26:5-8. It is Ezekiel 37:1-12 that Paul is referring to as the promise concerning resurrection of the nation of Israel as a whole, because there is no other such direct promise from God to the nation in scripture. Thereby we can see that Paul understood "from the four winds" as a reference to resurrection. And so from Paul's view, from scripture, he understood that Matthew 24:31 is talking about the dead and the alive "from the four winds and from one end of the sky to the other"


Concerning the staged so called "rapture".
See the Ted Talk held in Israel 2013 about nano bots. Daniel 2:43 KJV
Revelation 18:23. Sorcery, pharmekia.
By those means the world has been deceived, injected, with end time secret technology.
Babylon is the empire of the three city states. Their king is in the office called Pope.

"And call no man your father, for one is your father, even the Lord in heaven."

When revelation was written 5 in that office had come and gone and one was. Revelation 17:10

That the office is of a king is kept secret at this time, but in the past it was not so secret. We know that they have waged wars, crusades, and have made laws that the world still follows. April was the start of the year, until the Gregorian calendar. Pope Gregory the thirteenth. The office of the Pope is the office of the beast.

Soon world war will start centered around some set up Islamic tyrant. And there will be a fresh new young person in the office. During WW3 he will seem to die and then be healed from death in some new spectacular world changing way. And the two prophets will be here.

If any man will hurt them a fire comes out of their mouth and devours their enemies. And if any man will hurt them he Must in this manner be killed. Revelation 11:5

And when they shall have finished their testimony the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit will make war against them, and shall overcome them and kill them. Revelation 11:7

Therefore the beast must be killed by the fire that comes out of the mouth of the two prophets.

And the beast and false prophet were captured...these both were thrown alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. Revelation 19:20

The lake of fire is first kindled by the two prophets. And then also Jesus when He returns spews fire and lava from His mouth literally.
Revelation 19:21

Revelation is not super figurative.

 

[ThunderPen]

You mentioned how important " the resurrection" is.
Now you are blenderizing the resurrection from THE EARTH, into a mix of " the air".
Dead people gathered from the air

Dead and alive rise from the earth to the air.
The dead are resurrected, the alive are changed.

We shall not all sleep(die) but we shall all be changed....

Matthew 24:31
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
2 Thessalonians 1:7-10
1 Corinthians 15:51-58
Revelation 19:7-21

Those passages are all speaking about the same one event.
The dead rise first into the army, in the clouds in the air, then any remaining believers alive are changed and caught up also, up into the clouds, into the air, as part of the Lords army in the sky.


To you who fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise... And you shall trample down the wicked, they shall be ashes under your feet in the day that I do this says the Lord. Malachi 4:3-4

The righteous shall rejoice when they see the vengeance, they shall wash their feet in the blood of the wicked Psalm 58:10

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

1 Thessalonians 4:18 - Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

Not sure how comforting it is knowing you are going through the "great" tribulation.

It IS comforting because that means Jesus is coming back in 3-1/2 years from that time. Endure until then!

 

[Psalm1]

Dead and alive rise from the earth to the air.
The dead are resurrected, the alive are changed.

We shall not all sleep(die) but we shall all be changed....

Matthew 24:31
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
2 Thessalonians 1:7-10
1 Corinthians 15:51-58
Revelation 19:7-21

Those passages are all speaking about the same one event.
The dead rise first into the army, in the clouds in the air, then any remaining believers alive are changed and caught up also, up into the clouds, into the air, as part of the Lords army in the sky.


To you who fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise... And you shall trample down the wicked, they shall be ashes under your feet in the day that I do this says the Lord. Malachi 4:3-4

The righteous shall rejoice when they see the vengeance, they shall wash their feet in the blood of the wicked Psalm 58:10

Post a verse pointing to a postrib rapture.
Should be easy.

 

[dkontner]

Post a verse pointing to a postrib rapture.
Should be easy.

It's super easy if you read God's word. God bless.

The 'son of perdition' comes in the 'midst of the week'. That's 1260 days, 42 months, time times and half time. You won't find a '7 year tribulation' in the bible. Daniel's 70th week is split in two, the tribulation and God's wrath.

Matthew 24:29-30
King James Version
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Revelation 6
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

2 Thessalonians 2
King James Version
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.