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I hear Their Words. i believe Jesus Christ is just a........
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.they are not even knowing what they say
 
Average people
They don't know jesus by saying I believe Jesus was just a good man or a prophet or whatever . By using average saying it not seperate from the world .
I know Jesus as seated on Right hand with all judgement with Anointing.
i never got the nick name title Jesus Christ as Many men say to look to ood outword? Best is what Peter said .Jesus is Lord and Christ. But he may have said Messiah instead of Christ
To know that is The Anointed with the Anointing The Ruach Seal
 
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Average people
They don't know jesus by saying I believe Jesus was just a good man or a prophet or whatever . By using average saying it not seperate from the world .
I know Jesus as seated on Right hand with all judgement with Anointing.
i never got the nick name title Jesus Christ as Many men say to look to ood outword? Best is what Peter said .Jesus is Lord and Christ. But he may have said Messiah instead of Christ
To know that is The Anointed with the Anointing
The Ruach Seal
 
The Lord uses His people for his work .let's go with miracles and healing. Now some may believe a miracle or healing from own hand or story ,that believe leaves doubt because they didn't know the man or woman or they didn't witness the Mir or healing Themself.
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I say I believe, I'm lieing To Him ,that is in me So yes I seperate from mens way of wording even in daily contracting ,thats what most all conversations are about .Now let's contract with The Lord Anointed .
Does He not have the Anointing to give to anyone That receive of His Holy Spirit Gift?
 
Speaking truth! in that alone has forgiving power by The Holy Spirit.
Sure I read and see myself in kjv
 
Please don't ask me about the mutual Christian saying. How to seperate a true knower or and The actors pretenders. Until I know the people are gifted with The Holy Spirit devine Gift .
I don't not call myself Christian or other saying pick up from scrips..
God bless you really is slim no power authority.
Ask me if don't understand I only know the scriptures by The Holy Spirit Christ for them that know
I used Christ instead of English meaning .I love the Word but hate how it used improperly,!
 
Please don't ask me about the mutual Christian saying. How to seperate a true knower or and The actors pretenders. Until I know the people are gifted with The Holy Spirit devine Gift .
I don't not call myself Christian or other saying pick up from scrips..
God bless you really is slim no power authority.
Ask me if don't understand I only know the scriptures by The Holy Spirit Christ for them that know
I used Christ instead of English meaning .I love the Word but hate how it used improperly,!
 
Then why did Christ teach the Torah and tell us to follow Him? Why did HE say to live by every word of the Torah i.e the WORD of GOD!
Christ was sinless, how was that adjudicated ? The Torah
So what is sinlessness, is to be cast aside?? The law in the New Covenant is the Torah raised to the Spirit level
A. Jesus was far more than just another Rabbi rehashing the Law of Moses and reminding the Jewish people of their duty to obey the Law. Messiah's message was the GOOD NEWS that had never been uttered before.
34 Jesus spoke all these things to the crowds in parables. He did not tell them anything without using a parable.
35 So was fulfilled what was spoken through the prophet: I will open My mouth in parables; I will utter things hidden since the foundation of the world.”
(Matthew 13:34-35)

B. Isaiah 52 speaks of the time when the forerunner would announce the appearance of the Messiah
3 A voice cries in the wilderness prepare the way of the Lord; make straight in the desert a highway for our God.4Every valley shall be lifted up, and every mountain and hill be made low; the uneven ground shall become level, and the rough places a plain.
5 And the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together, for the mouth of the Lord has spoken.

(Isaiah 52:3-5)
Yeshuah was the outshining of the Father's glory

C. 6 Therefore My people will know My NAME; therefore ON THAT DAYthat I am He who speaks. Here I am!”
When the Baptizer pointed to Jesus and said: "behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world" the people (those whose hearts were ready to hear) recognized who He was....9 Go on up to a high mountain, O Zion, herald of GOOD NEWS; lift up your voice with strength, O Jerusalem, herald of GOOD NEWS; lift it up, fear not; say to the cities of Judah, Behold your God!”
(Isaiah 52:6-9)

D. When he came the first time He revealed Himself as the loving Shepherd: 11 He will tend his flock like a SHEPHERD; he will gather the lambs in his arms; he will carry them in his bosom, and gently lead those that are with young.
When He comes again it will be to gather His sheep and judge the ungodly.
(Isaiah 52:11)

E. This same passage says Messiah would bring GOOD NEWS which was not the Law and the curses attached to it but the Good News was about the forgiveness of sin, redemption and HOPE of eternal life. Through Him the Kingdom of Heaven drew NEAR just as it will return and exert its dominion over the world when He comes again.

F. Jesus never invited people to come and follow Moses. He did command people to FOLLOW HIM and make HIM their TEMPLATE.
No Rabbi would dare to do this. Jesus went even further by proclaiming Himself to be the sole source of eternal life. for mankind
24 Then Jesus told His disciples, “If anyone wants to come after Me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow Me.
25 For whoever wants to save his life
[his soul] will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake WILL FIND IT (i.e., will find LIFE)
26 What will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?…

(Matthew 16:24-25)
Is all this about the obeying the Torah or was He calling people to believe in HIM?
 

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A. Jesus was far more than just another Rabbi rehashing the Law of Moses and reminding the Jewish people of their duty to obey the Law. Messiah's message was the GOOD NEWS that had never been uttered before.
34 Jesus spoke all these things to the crowds in parables. He did not tell them anything without using a parable.
35 So was fulfilled what was spoken through the prophet: I will open My mouth in parables; I will utter things hidden since the foundation of the world.”
(Matthew 13:34-35)

B. Isaiah 52 speaks of the time when the forerunner would announce the appearance of the Messiah
3 A voice cries in the wilderness prepare the way of the Lord; make straight in the desert a highway for our God.4Every valley shall be lifted up, and every mountain and hill be made low; the uneven ground shall become level, and the rough places a plain.
5 And the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together, for the mouth of the Lord has spoken.

(Isaiah 52:3-5)
Yeshuah was the outshining of the Father's glory

C. 6 Therefore My people will know My NAME; therefore ON THAT DAYthat I am He who speaks. Here I am!”
When the Baptizer pointed to Jesus and said: "behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world" the people (those whose hearts were ready to hear) recognized who He was....9 Go on up to a high mountain, O Zion, herald of GOOD NEWS; lift up your voice with strength, O Jerusalem, herald of GOOD NEWS; lift it up, fear not; say to the cities of Judah, Behold your God!”
(Isaiah 52:6-9)

D. When he came the first time He revealed Himself as the loving Shepherd: 11 He will tend his flock like a SHEPHERD; he will gather the lambs in his arms; he will carry them in his bosom, and gently lead those that are with young.
When He comes again it will be to gather His sheep and judge the ungodly.
(Isaiah 52:11)

E. This same passage says Messiah would bring GOOD NEWS which was not the Law and the curses attached to it but the Good News was about the forgiveness of sin, redemption and HOPE of eternal life. Through Him the Kingdom of Heaven drew NEAR just as it will return and exert its dominion over the world when He comes again.

F. Jesus never invited people to come and follow Moses. He did command people to FOLLOW HIM and make HIM their TEMPLATE.
No Rabbi would dare to do this. Jesus went even further by proclaiming Himself to be the sole source of eternal life. for mankind
24 Then Jesus told His disciples, “If anyone wants to come after Me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow Me.
25 For whoever wants to save his life
[his soul] will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake WILL FIND IT (i.e., will find LIFE)
26 What will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?…

(Matthew 16:24-25)
Is all this about the obeying the Torah or was He calling people to believe in HIM?

by what rules, laws will Christ judge the ungodly. and what is ungodlyness -- exactly?
for that matter what is lawlessness and what is iniquity?

Christ wrote the 10 on the two stones, Moses followed Christ, as we must.
Christ said to follow HIM -- what across the street? NO! follow, copy, imitate how He lived and He lived without sin and what tells us what is sin?

I am beginning to understand why Christ, when He returns, will come in GREAT WRATH and FURY

27 And if ye will not for all this hearken unto me, but walk contrary unto me;
28 Then I will walk contrary unto you also in Fury;

and why He will rule with the ROD of IRON!
 
Rather then address all the problems in the above,
Lets ask a question.
The Word of God, Old T and New T, both are difficult to understand, if that were not so then there would only be one Church of God the Father.
Why is the Word hard to understand?

Isaiah 8

20 To the law and to the testimony:
if they speak not according to this word,
[it is] because [there is] no light in them

the law, Torah
the testimony; two tables of Stone

those that profess the Torah and the 10 Commandments are abolished, I will not listen to
1) At times certain aspects of the word are mysterious but I never said that understanding it was IMPOSSIBLE The basic message of the of salvation which shows how we can be forgiven and inherit eternal life is SIMPLE. The reason you fail to understand it is because you seem to reject the very idea that a New Covenant was made through blood of Jesus.

2) Your difficulty lies in the impossible task of reconciling elements of the Mosaic Covenant with the New Covenant by creating a hybrid "gospel" Which is not the one which was proclaimed by Jesus, or His Apostles.

3) Paul pointed this out long ago when he said: …8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be under a curse! 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be under a curse! (Galatians 1:8-9)

4) Your "gospel" [of salvation] which includes keeping Shabbat is a different gospel.

5) I never said, the Torah or the MORAL commandments have been ABOLISHED. The Moral aspect of the law [i.e., those that forbid murder, lying, adultery theft and idolatry is still in effect for humanity. The Apostles taught their followers (many of which were Gentiles) that certain behaviors were sinful

6) Keeping Shabbat is qualitatively different from moral sins since it involves the particular day on which we are supposed to rest. Keeping Shabbat did not become a Law until Moses made it a Law at Sinai However, ceasing from labor was intended to be a blessing not a burden but if we make Shabbat-keeping a standard by which we are either saved or damned (as you have done) then it cannot but be a burden.
 
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by what rules, laws will Christ judge the ungodly. and what is ungodlyness -- exactly?
for that matter what is lawlessness and what is iniquity?

Christ wrote the 10 on the two stones, Moses followed Christ, as we must.
Christ said to follow HIM -- what across the street? NO! follow, copy, imitate how He lived and He lived without sin and what tells us what is sin?

I am beginning to understand why Christ, when He returns, will come in GREAT WRATH and FURY

27 And if ye will not for all this hearken unto me, but walk contrary unto me;
28 Then I will walk contrary unto you also in Fury;

and why He will rule with the ROD of IRON!
A. When you asked by what standard the ungodly will be judged I did not need to come up with anything new. The Bible already tells us why people will be judged and the subject of keeping Shabbat is never brought up.

This [judgment] will take place when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels 8 in blazing fire, inflicting vengeance on those who do not KNOW GOD and DO NOT OBEY THE GOSPEL OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST
9They will suffer the penalty of eternal destruction, separated from the presence of the Lord and the glory of His might,…

(2 Thessalonians 1:8-9)

B. First of all, those who will be judged are those who do not KNOW God
17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ." To this the beloved Apostle John added:
18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is Himself God and is at the Father’s side,
has made Him known.
(John 1:17-18)

C. Even those who have amassed a great deal of knowledge ABOUT Him through studying the Torah do not necessarily KNOW HIM
Speaking of the Forerunner, Jesus said: 35 He was a burning and shining lamp, and you were willing to rejoice for a while in his light. 36 But the testimony that I have is greater than that of John. For the works that the Father has given me to accomplish, the very works that I am doing, bear witness about me that the Father has sent me.37And the Father who sent me has himself borne witness about me. His voice you have never heard, his form you have never seen
(John 5:36)

D. Then, turning to the Rabbis, Jesus said:
38 and you do not have his word abiding in you, for you do not believe the one whom he has sent.
39 You search [pour over] the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me, 40 yet
YOU REFUSE TO COME TO ME THAT YOU MAY HAVE LIFE.
(John 5:38-40)
The Messianic good news is that if we REPENT of sin and put our FAITH in Jesus we can be forgiven and inherit eternal life

E. Notice that Jesus does not consign anyone to eternal judgment for not keeping Shabbat or the other laws of the Mosaic covenant.
The text says they will be condemned for NOT OBEYING the GOSPEL OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST.
His gospel includes REPENTANCE and then putting ones FAITH in the Lord Jesus to save them.
Faith means not only holding the correct belief ABOUT Jesus. It entails something personal: TRUSTING in, putting our CONFIDENCE in RELYING and DEPENDING upon HIM to do for us what we cannot do for ourselves.

F. From the rest of what you wrote. it sounds like you cannot wait to get your hands on that Rod of Iron so you can start beating all the rebellious sheep who do not accept your (false) gospel. Be careful with that, when Moses lost his temper and started beating the sheep instead of SPEAKING to the rock he was barred from entering into the Promise
 
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1) At times certain aspects of the word are mysterious but I never said that understanding it was IMPOSSIBLE The basic message of the of salvation which shows how we can be forgiven and inherit eternal life is SIMPLE. The reason you fail to understand it is because you seem to reject the very idea that a New Covenant was made through blood of Jesus.

2) Your difficulty lies in the impossible task of reconciling elements of the Mosaic Covenant with the New Covenant by creating a hybrid "gospel" Which is not the one which was proclaimed by Jesus, or His Apostles.

3) Paul pointed this out long ago when he said: …8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be under a curse! 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be under a curse! (Galatians 1:8-9)

4) Your "gospel" [of salvation] which includes keeping Shabbat is a different gospel.

5) I never said, the Torah or the MORAL commandments have been ABOLISHED. The Moral aspect of the law [i.e., those that forbid murder, lying, adultery theft and idolatry is still in effect for humanity. The Apostles taught their followers (many of which were Gentiles) that certain behaviors were sinful

6) Keeping Shabbat is qualitatively different from moral sins since it involves the particular day on which we are supposed to rest. Keeping Shabbat did not become a Law until Moses made it a Law at Sinai However, ceasing from labor was intended to be a blessing not a burden but if we make Shabbat-keeping a standard by which we are either saved or damned (as you have done) then it cannot but be a burden.



may I correct the record?
It is only by the shed blood of Jesus Christ paying my personal debt for all my sins, that I am here today. and I was a sinner!

Christ died so I did not have to die for all eternity.

The New Covenant made possible for me to be given the Promise of the Spirit of The Father, dwelling in me.

What THE MANY can not grasps is Christ paid my debt for all the Commandments and Statutes I transgressed for decades, thus earning the penalty of eternal death and Sin was, and STILL IS NOW the transgression of the 10 Commandments found in the Torah.

If that is not so -- then what is sin?

if sin does not exist to day --- no one needs the sacrifice of Christ, His sacrifice is payment for sins!
for sin to exist the Torah must exist.

Christ did not pay for my sins so I could continue sinning. before baptism I repented, meaning I realized i sinned against God and made the decision to stop. do I still sin yes and I repent ASAP.

Question, so do you still repent when you sin? How do you determine how you sinned?

To not sin means to not transgress the Commandments that were written in two stone tables by THE FINGER of JESUS CHRIST
those two tables are so HOLY to God the Father and Jesus Christ they had Moses place them in the Ark which is under the Throne of the Father.

And I am criticized for Obeying the HOLY Torah which Christ spoke to Moses and Christ lived by to perfection so He could die for ME?
and that makes sense to criticize for obeying to the Many???

Obeying earns zero --- when Christ died for me He paid the ransom that freed me, making Christ my owner, My Owner demands I obey
there is no reward for a slave doing what he is commanded to do.

Here it is in the words of MY Master

Luke 17

7 But which of you, having a servant plowing or feeding cattle, will say unto him by and by, when he is come from the field, Go and sit down to meat?

8 And will not rather say unto him, Make ready wherewith I may sup, and gird thyself, and serve me, till I have eaten and drunken; and afterward thou shalt eat and drink?

9 Doth he thank that servant because he did the things that were commanded him? I trow not.

10 So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say,
We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do.
It is my duty to obey my Master -- I will obey!
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
 
may I correct the record?
It is only by the shed blood of Jesus Christ paying my personal debt for all my sins, that I am here today. and I was a sinner!

Christ died so I did not have to die for all eternity.

The New Covenant made possible for me to be given the Promise of the Spirit of The Father, dwelling in me.

What THE MANY can not grasps is Christ paid my debt for all the Commandments and Statutes I transgressed for decades, thus earning the penalty of eternal death and Sin was, and STILL IS NOW the transgression of the 10 Commandments found in the Torah.

If that is not so -- then what is sin?

if sin does not exist to day --- no one needs the sacrifice of Christ, His sacrifice is payment for sins!
for sin to exist the Torah must exist.

Christ did not pay for my sins so I could continue sinning. before baptism I repented, meaning I realized i sinned against God and made the decision to stop. do I still sin yes and I repent ASAP.

Question, so do you still repent when you sin? How do you determine how you sinned?

To not sin means to not transgress the Commandments that were written in two stone tables by THE FINGER of JESUS CHRIST
those two tables are so HOLY to God the Father and Jesus Christ they had Moses place them in the Ark which is under the Throne of the Father.

And I am criticized for Obeying the HOLY Torah which Christ spoke to Moses and Christ lived by to perfection so He could die for ME?
and that makes sense to criticize for obeying to the Many???

Obeying earns zero --- when Christ died for me He paid the ransom that freed me, making Christ my owner, My Owner demands I obey
there is no reward for a slave doing what he is commanded to do.

Here it is in the words of MY Master

Luke 17

7 But which of you, having a servant plowing or feeding cattle, will say unto him by and by, when he is come from the field, Go and sit down to meat?

8 And will not rather say unto him, Make ready wherewith I may sup, and gird thyself, and serve me, till I have eaten and drunken; and afterward thou shalt eat and drink?

9 Doth he thank that servant because he did the things that were commanded him? I trow not.

10 So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say,
We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do.
It is my duty to obey my Master -- I will obey!
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
I am glad you posted this. Now I see that you are a servant of the Lord Jesus and that we are brothers in Christ. I know there are many Christians who take the idea of grace to mean lawlessness. However, the new covenant is the means by which God is able cleanse the heart and write His will there.
 
Main problem with 'Turning from sin ' and believing on the Lord Jesus Christ, is that it is a lost person who is meant to be turning from sin.

Surely someone can only 'turn from sin' AFTER already being converted?
 
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So, we have many phrases we often use instead of these scriptural words, to talk about getting eternal salvation.

'Turning from sin and making Jesus Lord or your life '

'Committing your life to Christ'

'Asking Jesus into your heart'

Etc..

These aren't actually in scripture..although may be fully supported by scripture.

The key thing is.. how do you know if these kind of scriptures are the same as 'believe on the Lord Jesus Christ'
Thou saved and thy house? is prob flesh saved not eternal but possible eternal saved.
more authority to know assured Trust verily verily Behold Aman
believe see know .
thread Title is also weak to me . Why bcus it's power is Know the Lord and His Anointing Ruach & live
SoZo
 
Saying "I am SoZo" is the outward confession of the Holy Spirit's inward indwelling. The Holy Spirit is the active agent inside me who takes the complete work of Jesus and applies it to my daily life. When I speak this, I AM exercising the faith that allows the Holy Spirit to manifest peace, emotional healing, and spiritual power in your circumstances.
 
Main problem with 'Turning from sin ' and believing on the Lord Jesus Christ, is that it is a lost person who is meant to be turning from sin.

Surely someone can only 'turn from sin' AFTER already being converted?
This is one of the reasons the Holy Spirit was sent into the world - to convict men of their sins. Conviction is a very unpleasant work, in that it is not something we like hearing about ourselves. Usually we human's live in the delusion that that we are not AS BAD as we COULD be or not as bad as some others we know. This attempt to "grade ourselves on a curve" is a distortion of the carnal mind which is in league with the"god of this world" to keep us in bondage.

Unlike Martin Luther who believed the fall rendered the human will UNABLE to submit to God. Because of this the will itself had to receive "grace" to make it able to repent and believe. However, I believe the scriptures teach that it is our DESIRES (emotions and instinctive drives) that have been corrupted. Following these desires caused us to be alienated from the Spirit and to fall under the bondage of Satan:
17 So I tell you this, and insist on it in the Lord, that you must no longer walk as the Gentiles do, in the futility of their THINKING. 18 They are darkened in their UNDERSTANDING and alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them due to the hardness of their hearts. 19 Having lost all sense of shame, they have given themselves over to sensuality for the practice of every kind of impurity, with a craving for more.…(Ephesians 4:17-19)

The fact is that no one WILL turn from sin until they understand that they cannot get out of their prison any other way. Only when a soul is convinced of this will they look up to the bronze snake hanging on the pole to save them. The fruit of repentence is change of mind that causes me to look AWAY from myself and TO Christ
 
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This is one of the reasons the Holy Spirit was sent into the world - to convict men of their sins. Conviction is a very unpleasant work, in that it is not something we like hearing about ourselves. Usually we human's live in the delusion that that we are not AS BAD as we COULD be or not as bad as some others we know. This attempt to "grade ourselves on a curve" is a distortion of the carnal mind which is in league with the"god of this world" to keep us in bondage.

Unlike Martin Luther who believed the fall rendered the human will UNABLE to submit to God. Because of this the will itself had to receive "grace" to make it able to repent and believe. However, I believe the scriptures teach that it is our DESIRES (emotions and instinctive drives) that have been corrupted. Following these desires caused us to be alienated from the Spirit and to fall under the bondage of Satan:
17 So I tell you this, and insist on it in the Lord, that you must no longer walk as the Gentiles do, in the futility of their THINKING. 18 They are darkened in their UNDERSTANDING and alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them due to the hardness of their hearts. 19 Having lost all sense of shame, they have given themselves over to sensuality for the practice of every kind of impurity, with a craving for more.…(Ephesians 4:17-19)

The fact is that no one WILL turn from sin until they understand that they cannot get out of their prison any other way. Only when a soul is convinced of this will they look up to the bronze snake hanging on the pole to save them. The fruit of repentence is change of mind that causes me to look AWAY from myself and TO Christ

Yes, so this is where 'turn from sin'..can just mean.. 'know you are a sinner and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ '..and then it is no issue.

But like I posted before..if it's a behavioral change BEFORE conversion..that's a lost person..dead in sin..trying to turn from it. Can't be done.
 
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